Summarized, the text from the .pdf sayes, that the peace was held as an 16th century-breastplate because of the decoration, which was also existant in that time. Nowerday´s analysis (in coorporation with the famous german Armourer Peter Müller) found out, that it really is from the 1430´ -jears. ...

Could we get some better pics of your helmet? It seems to be very nice!

@ Marc Ha:
I´m quite sorry to interrupt you, but you mean Kastenbrust, not Katzenbrust.

Kastenbrust means "Chest-Breast" (And that´s what you are talking about),
Katzenbrust means "Cat-Breast"

Greetings from the german corner,
Gregor

As far as I know, pavaises like that were already used in the late 14. century in eastern Germany.

Right!

I saw yours in your thread an I was very surprized, that they are even sold in Australia

You customized them very nicely, by the way.
If my studies wouldn´t eat all my time, I would do things like that, too

Do you have a great helm or visor, or does the LARP thing mean you need that level of face protection. In German Larp its forbidden to strike at the head, so i don´t need a Visor, even if i want to get a Klappvisier once :roll: Did you make all of your kit? If not where did you get the pieces from...

Thank you all

@ Mark: Yeah, a Mail-Shirt really misses! I´m getting one in two weeks.

It depends where I´m Larping. But mostly with the same Group. They make Larps in Koblenz and Gießen every year.

Hi!

Because I finally got pictures of my kit, I´d like to show you.

(About the harness: it´s just for Larp, not SCA at all, hope you don´t mind it.)

Here you can find all the pictures:

http://www.larpwiki.de/cgi-bin/wiki.pl? ... tterUm1350

Greetings, Gregor

And how about "aus"?

Nope, never used. That would be very uncommon in german, because it sounds more like kind of a roamer

"Hans aus Niederkassel" = Hans from Niederkassel, not Hans of Niederkassel!

Oh m god, I hate those spectacles. There is even nothing in common with knigts or even the middle-ages :x Typical german stuff :roll: That might have an effect on the name... any native speakers wish to comment? Would it then be "vom"? No, it´s not ;) Sattlements around a castele gained the name of...

There are even pot-helmets fron the 1370´years with hats on it as a crest.

And the last picture from Codex Manesse above shows good how this looked like a few years earlier

Greetings, Gregor

Not sure about the arm armour yet; still researching, would love advice on this. Here you are ;) Gunther von Schwarzburg, 1349: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Guenther_von_schwarzburg.jpg Reginald Cobham, 1361: http://www.themcs.org/churches/Surrey/Lingfield%20-%20St%20Peter%20a...

Here is one map: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/HRR_14Jh.jpg Outsunberg is no town or city in germany, even the mixture of the vowels is not typical german. Names like that sound more scandinavian. I would prefer "Hauzenberg", or "Kauzenberg", that sounds typical german, Hauzenbe...

Gregor... all possibilities.. Smile

Unfortunately

@ Strongbow: Yea, i know those effigies, but i would not suggest, that its an alone-standing berastplate. Perhaps it´s a kind of a corrazina(? In german it´s called "Lendner") like this: http://www.plattnerwerkstatt.de/hp/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=detail&catid=25&id=76:dsc_0321&tmpl=c...

Hi!

Would you like to show us some Works? I´m pleased every time there is a new armourer in Germany

Greetings, Gregor

@miscreant: Interesting! Do you have some more information or a bigger picture of that? This far i would not suggest that it must be a globose breastplate, but would like to see more of it to get more shure.

Greetings, Gregor

@ Strongbow:

I´m sorry, but i have to disagree. As far as I know, the first Breastplates appeared around 1380, in 1350´s only COPs were worn.


Greetings, Gregor

Before I forget, this guy has a very beautiful kit: http://www.diu-minnezit.de/realien_kate ... id=3&sid=0

Greetings, Gregor

Hi, If you speak german, i could have something that would be interisting for you. I once wrote a guideline for a (LARP!) Knight-Kit 1340-1370 in german Larp-Wiki. Here is the link: http://www.larpwiki.de/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GewandungsTippsRitterUm1350 I don´t know if it is 100% historical correct, but...

Great! You would fit in at other Larps in Germany, for example this one: http://www.manoevertage.de/ (click at the pictures to get into the gallery). Perhaps I will be at the Mythodea too. Some friends of mine will be there for shure. Ask for some Landsknechts ("Lapping-Rotte" - means rabbit-troop :...

Hi, Those pauldrons are not historical any way, even in the middleages there were no gorgets like this worn. But to advise you: These Pauldrons and some other things in the shop (all pictures with the same guy) are from a german shop which sells real crap. Its made in india with crapy an realy thin ...

As i sayed in Larper.de: i love it!

Why didn´t you post the detail photos in larper.de? I think they wold like to see them too!

Greetings, Gregor

You are right, Pavaises were in used from the early 14. century until the middle of the 16. century, as i remember correctly. First Pavaises looked much like scutums, just without the shieldboss. But in difference to scutums, pavaises were not carried by a strap on the arm, often there were special ...

@ Strongbow:

Thanks!

But larps with this standart are, counted on the whole number of larps in germany, the much minor group.
But we grow ^^

Greetings, Gregor

Ok, here is my Kit (just no SCA, its for LARP): A german knight from around 1340-70: http://www.markus-niessen.de/Fotos/Larp/Hohenst2/Gross/Rimg0055.jpg Civil Clothing http://www.markus-niessen.de/Fotos/Larp/Hohenst2/Gross/Rimg0067.jpg Detail of the stichings http://www.gwebspace.de/ven_on/Bild078.j...

I think you might look for the upper pattern: http://seegras.discordia.ch/Medieval/Kleidung/Pourpoint.phtml Its from around 1360. I Padded mine in front of the chest but if you don´t want to, watch the size of the upper front parts, the gap between them should look much more like a line, when it´t...