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by Tableau
Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:50 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Alright. I did that and this time I checked on an incognito window, so hopefully it works now
by Tableau
Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:20 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Dammit! I thought I had finally cracked it. How about now?
by Tableau
Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:53 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

just for a visual for those who haven't seen on facebook or instagram: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ABLVV84t8mXYloZgCMBCjWV87XgfkuqkjLC8nI4UtL_q7KweS7yyIbAvINvuU4j3t_BSBDlKVfGu1HyHIXXj2B8jAD-EkVGdPMzyRDTxIa2OsjcMVUqhf3XmrcDocQcyHsZwQewDqMrPxNnrJQ79abWmo-kU=w364-h640-s-no?authuser=0 https://l...
by Tableau
Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:41 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

For our first bucket, we went for a conical helm. Starting from a disk of 1/2" plate about 5 3/8" x 7 3/4" at about 5 - 5.2 lbs https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ABLVV84Lak4JpjvzAXrWxzqVowhEEuqtRlIiz7KUBxgWkbup6_QjLMIOAYO4kRDd3EfDDzSeGZqo9sKyOmLyB5bKmZKWAUg_bjS4uCKRRfKRq-V-IR3jncpG9pOWUPfrvSb2SY_...
by Tableau
Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:57 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Well, after some years I've decided to resurrect this thread. So I haven't had the time to work on armour in quite some time, but about a year ago I talked a few of my friends into forming a band. We meet every couple of weeks (if we're lucky) and get a few hours of hammering in. Our mandate is to l...
by Tableau
Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:15 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Carter's Blog
Replies: 99
Views: 19019

Re: Carter's Blog

Carter, once you crack the shoe puzzle can I commission a pair from you? I admire the hustle and I would like to follow your example but I 100% don’t have time to learn medieval shoe making lol
by Tableau
Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:48 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

I think that the neck should be cut up a bit higher in back. Yeah, it looks weird as it is now. I was just waiting to see if I wanted to draw the cheeks out a bit more before I do more trimming What I'd like to see in this front view is for the widest point of the helmet to be at or just above the ...
by Tableau
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:19 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

It is a common misconception that helmet skulls should be equidistant from the head of the wearer. They tend to have a lot of crush space in the top, something missing in most modern pieces. I don't see anything wrong with your drawing. I think the drawing looks good, i'm just trying to reconcile t...
by Tableau
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

I would be inclined to treat the helmet skull and the visor as separate things. First make the skull fit properly, then make the visor be in the right place. Mac I spent a few minutes just now trying to work things out while treating them as a unit, and quickly realized how badly that was going for...
by Tableau
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Cool project! But remember that the visor doesn't really fit the skull. To me it seems that the visor needs to be pulled down a few millimeters at least. Taking a close look, it seems like the royal armouries website shows this helmet with the visor attached in two different ways, depending on the ...
by Tableau
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Cool project! But remember that the visor doesn't really fit the skull. To me it seems that the visor needs to be pulled down a few millimeters at least. Okay, good tip. I gathered a bunch of reference for central hinged visors and this one seems like a super common type so I figured probably ok. D...
by Tableau
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:54 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Hmm yes very probably. I put them on google photos for a change. lets see if I can fix that

how about now?
by Tableau
Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:56 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Made some progress on the bascinet. I decided my best bet would be this one in the Royal Armouries. If the dimensions they give are correct, it's fairly short at around 10" deep. I got this thing down to 10 1/4", so I should have a little wiggle room, but I can't get that number to reconcile with my...
by Tableau
Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:04 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Experimental Helmet Auction!
Replies: 3
Views: 1895

Re: Experimental Helmet Auction!

RandallMoffett wrote:I was off line most of Thursday and Friday. Did these sell?
Nope. Still up for grabs, although there are bids on 3 and 4 that were made after the end time I made up so I’m that case I suppose I could accept bids till money changes hands?
by Tableau
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Armadillo wrote:I think it will be worth a try. The machining is going to cost, but I can use this for other forging applications.
I'll quick hijacking your thread now, but I appreciate your input.
-Adair
No by all means; that’s what this thread is all about
by Tableau
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

For anyone who’s interested, I’m auctioning off some prototypes over on the other side here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=188378
by Tableau
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:38 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Experimental Helmet Auction!
Replies: 3
Views: 1895

Experimental Helmet Auction!

So I've got quite a pile of helmet prototypes building up from my helmet experiments and I figured its time to get rid of some. The bidding starts now and will close in a week, on Friday June 12 at 5pm EDT. The winner pays shipping. I'm accepting bids from anyone whether or not they're a member of t...
by Tableau
Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Very cool. It looks like your depth will ultimately be limited by the frame of the hammer. Looks like that setup could get you a long way though
by Tableau
Fri May 29, 2020 8:05 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

More squashing https://i.imgur.com/fGOh8U9.jpg 9” deep, sitting about .11” for most of it, a tad thicker on top I also picked up a bunch of oxygen this week so hopefully next week I’ll get to finish up the raising on the last two Just for fun, here’s all the bucket experiments I have on hand at the ...
by Tableau
Fri May 29, 2020 7:57 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Hi Tableau, Your recent progress has inspired me again to win some shop time (I'm supposed to be building my wife's office, don't tell her I'm goofing around). Attached are some photos of the clearances I have to work with after removing the sow block from my power hammer. I've mocked up the scale ...
by Tableau
Fri May 22, 2020 3:16 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

James Arlen Gillaspie wrote:The height and width of the Met Schaller are not mixed up.
But from the front it’s taller than it is wide, not the other way around
by Tableau
Fri May 22, 2020 12:52 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Hmm yup that’s it exactly mac. I’ve only just started to make the forehead and back of the skull properly pointy, and it’s already getting too tight to my skull at those points. I’m sort of leaning to the scale model of the finished piece myself. I feel like it would complete the dramatic effect of ...
by Tableau
Fri May 22, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

So Kevin Legg pointed out on Facebook that my sallet is too short and I had to dive back into my design process and get to the bottom of it. My design process has been pretty sloppy so far, since my main focus has been getting a good bucket, with the actual armouring part being a secondary concern. ...
by Tableau
Fri May 22, 2020 11:35 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Armadillo wrote:For all the cool experimentation this guy is doing, I want to buy him a gas saver and a Nazel 4b to push that plate around faster.
-A.
And I’m very open to that idea lol. I’ve been thinking that a 25ton Anyang press might be a realistic option to help in that department
by Tableau
Thu May 21, 2020 8:18 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Got a bit more work done today

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Shop got a little hot

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Looks like I’ve got to go back to work next Monday so it looks like my time to work on this stuff is going to be limited for a bit ):
by Tableau
Thu May 21, 2020 10:54 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Carter's Blog
Replies: 99
Views: 19019

Re: Carter's Blog

Hey carter! It was nice meeting you last September. Work is looking good! Good hustle
by Tableau
Thu May 21, 2020 10:52 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Thanks guys I once again got caught up in working on the shop these last couple weeks. On the plus side, things are coming along real well in that department, but on the down side it’s taken a lot of time from this project ): Got back to it yesterday. I raised these as far as I could with my 8 inch ...
by Tableau
Sat May 09, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Okay here’s where I’m at. Finished squashing. Took about 19h and ended up being 9” deep, 12” wide and about 8 lb each. Thickness .09-.10”, up to .15” on top. I was hoping for a barbute but oh well https://i.imgur.com/8DlARfy.jpg Now I noticed recently that there is a pretty thick layer of scale that...
by Tableau
Sat May 09, 2020 2:48 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Thanks guys. Signo, I solved my one actual burner problem, which was caused by a slightly clogged nozzle, but beyond that it seems like the burners just kind of settled in. I don’t really inderstand, but I’m not complaining I’m not sure he was ever properly introduced, but this is my hammer, Sancho ...
by Tableau
Thu May 07, 2020 6:57 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Built a new spring stack for the hammer today. I made it one layer thicker this time, which worked fairly well. It now runs smoother and hits a bit harder. The down side is that the change in height at the pivot point raised the die height a bunch. Because of geometry I guess. Not a problem with my ...
by Tableau
Wed May 06, 2020 3:29 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Thanks Randal, all good suggestions. I always appreciate other people doing some of the leg work finding sources :P So I got a bit held up lately. My friend took over my shop last week to help me set up my cnc mill (which was a lot of fun) and then this week I snapped the springs on my power hammer....
by Tableau
Wed May 06, 2020 3:23 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: The start of a Journey: professional armouring
Replies: 560
Views: 41877

Re: The start of a Journey: professional armouring

Nice work Augusto! It does make me a little nervous to see you using tapered shanks in a hardy hole though. That can lead to damage on the edges of the hole and worst case scenario it can crack the heel off an anvil. Tapered shanks belong in tapered holes and straight walled hardy holes want to hold...
by Tableau
Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:42 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Yeah I think they have a few different potential futures. Probably I’ll iust keep squashing new blanks and not actually finish any helmets until a) I get sick of squashing or b) i stop for the summer when it gets too hot. Getting my shop up to 45c when it’s 9 degrees out is one thing, but when it’s ...
by Tableau
Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

Btw, what was the initial weight of the blanks and how much do they weight now? Initial blanks were about 4.5lbs each, finished about 4lbs So now that we’re through the warm-up round, it’s time for the real thing These next ones are each 9” circles of 1/2” weighing about 9lbs. Drawn out flats are m...
by Tableau
Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:51 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Experimental helmet forging
Replies: 362
Views: 305049

Re: Experimental helmet forging

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