The Armour Archive

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as somebody involved in HEMA i strongly advise on a modern fencing chest protector as well as a female groin guard im in the process of setting up my own group and these will be mandatory as well as the cup for male fencers. they are fitted reasonably comfortable and not very expensive at all about ...

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yeah its a really interesting piece to see something like that. il see what type my friend is looking for. im pretty sure its the basic steel bonnet type so i have a good idea now how it will be made.
does anyone have photos of the inside of any of these?

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any hammers?

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hey caladin wow :shock: thank you so much for all those pics they are truly awesome and with so many useful angles is so handy. anyone got a picture of the inside of one so i can see what the plates overlap and all is like? also there is one with the visor riveted on would that one be able to move l...

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yeah i totally agree its why i started the thread i spent ages dishing a helmet piece and it went horribly i tried the same again with a small bit of steel and tried to raise it and it went so much easier it seemed more controlled or something. and it is the proper way to do it. plus with so much fr...

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now that is handy. my first projects were things like sallets kettle hats they are what i had in mind so that would be perfect thanks for that. thats exactly what i needed.

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yeah i am thinking of just making it as good as i can from card or something first then working it out from there. im thinking more a bascinet style pattern modified. there is a picture in tomar with an interesting burgonet that looks like it was built around an onion top bascinet so thats what im t...

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yeah i have watched his videos the only problem is how do you get the thing to fit or cut to the right shape is it just cut big then shave off what you dont need?

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il check into that cheers

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i have it and have read it through and through as my post says. it does not go into raising in any great depth and is the reason i started this post. there is not much info out there on it either.

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well as the title suggest i want to learn to raise. its still a bit ahead of me i have seen many examples of raising etc watched videos and so on but i want to learn and get advice from those who do it. small pieces such as knees i understand ok. its things like helms faceplates etc that really conf...

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well even some advice would be helpful

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even if he is out of business might anyone have his contact details so i can ask him if he has any patterns for that helm?

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that would be great cheers gustav.

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yeah does anyone have patterns for or even know makers of steel bonnets? if so i will be hugely grateful for any help you can give.

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as for that thread how do i find the maker of that helm i looked for the waldryk site and found nothing can anyone help me?
also gustav thanks for the background this period is well out of my scope and is good to hear the background of this armour.

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i know they are hugely different but i need some form of idea as a starting point.

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ok so it is in essence a modified burgonet that helps hugely with finding stuff. also thanks for the links guys. that one you sent cal will be very handy. the one helmet i really want to make is a gallowglass helm like this http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/...

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hi guys im wondering how i would go about making this helmet and if anyone has made one like it or is willing to share or sell the pattern it would be a help but advice as to how to make it would be great. i dont plan on making it for a long long time but i like to plan ahead. here is the type of he...

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for sure i had no idea how bad that stuff could be so im leaving it alone for now.

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shoes some sort of hand protection maybe

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yes my spangen is coming along i warn you it will look fairly crummy i opted more for the get it done asap route as i need it asap. i will make a nice one another time. one thing i realised after it was all cut out was one how much grinders dont tend to go straight and the importance of marking out ...

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thanks konstantin some useful info there. well i got busy and started making a spanghelm for myself as i do mainly viking stuff and having such an odd head its really needed. cut out the bands for it although joining them at the top is awkward. and patterning the plates even more so. as for what har...

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i have a sheet of nice mild steel 16 gauge now woop woop

so back to the matter at hand. anyone know of good examples i have seen lots of one off bits helmets parade armour etc what about full battle field suits?

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yeah thats the plan i will have to go there for my 16 and 18 gauge i found some scrap 14 so gonna make a spang next. im sure i will come across some in dublin the one i found is close to where my girlfriend lives so is handy.
so back to coloured armour is it possible to colour it with heat?

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oh i have 2mm in abundance thats no issue its smaller thats the problem and i cant make a harness in 2mm.

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the medieval community here is small very small i got in contact with pretty much everyone involved and the sca community im the only reenactor trying this and one of few sca folk. i sourced about half a sheet for â‚¬64 so not too bad.

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yes but we brawl in steel

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yes hear hear. well i did find steel in dublin now getting it here will be tricky.
so painting may not be needed but is good to learn.

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well at least now you learned the error of your ways calling me english is not amusing. also thanks for that advice on the painted armour il check it out asap. anyone know of more examples? with links would be super handy.
also the sniping makes me feel like one of the archive team now

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thanks for such helpful words :x in case none of you have realised i have already been on to all the above mentioned places even worked in arklow marine. most supply thick steel suitable for boat hulls etc the others dont do small orders and the others dont do plain mild sheet of the needed thicknes...

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ok i have a conundrum and its really getting to me. the only steel i can get locally is galvanized useful for brigs cops etc but not for anything at all thats on show. now i need to know was armour historically painted circa 1450 to 1500 as in the whole suit. or is there other ways i can look at alt...

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yeah im thinking that might be the way to go. saw an amazing deal on a local swap site anvil forge tongs fan and other goodies for â‚¬1 but was sold. so altered hammers might be the best idea? i would still like to try get one good raising hammer though.

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hi all im looking to get a few hammers for armouring with. living in Ireland has proved to make it very hard to find hammers. due to being here im looking for them to be closer to home but if shipping can be kept down im willing to deal. im mainly looking for raising hammers finishing hammers and an...

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im using brass rivets for this hopefully the heads are wide enough but il test them before i make it. i have roughly 600 of these and while i will likely use them all i dont want to run out so im trying to look at historical examples which might solve this problem. i had thought the idea of doing it...

how to raise please tell me all

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painting and colouring armour

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