The Armour Archive

Giraut

Why leather? SCA is not "Living History". SCA-Combat is not historical swordplay, it is a kind of modern sports: hitting people with heavy wooden clubs. Try wearing historical correct armour, let's say 18 or 20 gauge helmets or body armor and play Heavy. Or better - do nor try that. Heavy Combat is ...

Giraut

Ken Mondschein wrote:... To restate the question, given this new technology, what could be done to make the SCA game safer?...

Easy.
Stop that nonsens with fighters shouting "light" when they got hit. Accept blows.
If you feel a blow, take it.
Don't need new technology. Just some common sense.

Giraut

That's the armour I'm wearing at our FPs. I don't go to tournaments anymore, I need leight-weighted armour for lessoning.

Giraut

Gordy, just learn to fight. Size does not matter. Since s.o. mentioned Robyn of Rye (4'3" tall): http://tribes.tribe.net/scawomenfighters/photos/3839c237-735e-4852-a37f-bb8d5d5fec06 http://people.tribe.net/0c6542ae-70bb-4197-b5d1-dd9796d5444a/photos/863fcc47-9cfe-4831-b7c4-6c60c8394405 edit: thanks,...

Giraut

I meant: wear a normal gambeson. And something protective under it. Zoombang Shirt may be enough.

Giraut

I'm wearing plastic rib guards and kidney protection under my gambeson.

Giraut

Just don't stuff it with rigid material, wear some hidden armour under it. Zoombang shirt seems to be enough. Or a similar solution like plastic rib guards.
That's what I use with my sleeveless gambeson.

Giraut

1. Getting my neck guard ready.
-done.

Yay.

Giraut

Thank you for your nice comments.

In addition, here are some impressions from a "beginners tourney" some weeks ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nFwsCf5-lE

Giraut

Yes.

But - this is not a "how to"- video. Just some impressions from our weekly practice hours. With mistakes, with not legal armor, beginners exercising and so on.

Giraut

Standing and waiting or even running away (= moving backwards) is the technique of cowards. It leads to a weak mind and bad fighting spirit. And it has no honour. Maybe the coward hits earlier than the active fighter. But such victories are worthless. An active fighter may lose a fight but it streng...

Giraut

...which can be answered with: "if your opponent is standing and waiting, stand and wait".

Anyway: the active fighter is always the better fighter. The field of honour is not a camping-ground.

Giraut

You can't win a fight by standing and waiting.

Giraut

Hi Jan, PM sent!

Hi William, thank you, I will send the greetings ASAP. Maybe Dunstan will start a local group in the Münster-area, soon.

Giraut

We made a short video during our FP this saturday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDT6aHN0DA

Giraut

Sigismund von Helfenstein wrote:...
I must have a closeup of that nasty munition looking houndskull... I can't explain why, but it calls to me...

Yours in service =>

Giraut

The Heavy guys from Barony Knights Crossing, Drachenwald (Germany).

(permission to post this picture granted)

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Giraut

Look what electric scoring did to fencing..... Exactly. Meanwhile more and more fencer prefer the new old fencing style "classical fencing" which is fencing without electronics. And quite some time ago I've heard that the Japanese invented an electronic scoring system for Kendo. But nobody wants it...

Giraut

In my active time I was never concerned. If something happened, it happened.
Today I am concerned but this has reasons - my health is not okay. So I dont participate in tourneys or melees aynmore but concentrate an FPs and coaching.

Giraut

If you're using plastic for the plates and if you don't use rivets, it works.
You may either sew the plates on (at the inside) or make inside bags to put the plates in.

Giraut

These protectors don't cover the sides of elbows/knees so IMHO they are no good choice.
Additonally, plastic armour can be made easily and costs nearly nothing while riot armour is rather expensive.

Giraut

Do you know the town where your persona lives? Some miles away from Jerusalem. Do you know the year it is? 1111. Next year will be 1112. Do you have a profession? Landowner Do you know where you were born? In a nameless small hamlet near Marseille, anno domini 1056. Do you know specifics I have lef...

Giraut

Minimum? => 8

Reasonable => 7

I had to visit hospital as a result from rattan fighting just once (some 20 or so years ago) and didn't change my armour. S*it happens.
8 is a useful minimum.

Giraut

My solution:

Meanwhile I've added maille shoulders, steel elbows, demi gaunts and leather legs.

Giraut

Thank you for sharing your idea + work.
Just received a very good helmet form Hjalmr these days and now your work makes me think of how to improve it. Thanks again!

Giraut

In our group some beginners bought items from AB and everything worked perfectly.

Giraut

You may like to have a look at http://www.plattner-siefert.de/

Giraut

These kind of activities have been discussed here before.
My pov: pseudo medievalistic hooliganism.

The rules: buy armor (18 gauge is enough), get a blunt weapon and start the action. That's all.
No, thanks.

Giraut

Giraut- Not sure, but it appears that both links that you give basically add padding to the mask. That wouldn't be legal for SCA Cut and Thrust as you need to have rigid protection in those places. That's the padding under the leather shown in some pics. The ALLSTAR padding is especially made for h...

Giraut

In my fencing group some guys did some pimping with regular fencing masks. The results are fine for fighting with shinai. federschwert and longsword.
The pictures are self-explanatory, I suppose:
http://schwertkampf.plusboard.de/fechtm ... n-t33.html

Giraut

ALLSTAR fencing equipment has these protections for historical fencing:
http://www.allstar.de/index.php?cPath=5 ... =3&lang=en

They ship to US and also have resellers in US.

Giraut

It's a well-known disease. Called "multiperioding".
You notice that you're sufering from 'multiperioding' when you visit a 15th century event wearing your "Latene C"-outfit.

Giraut

Duel and satisfaction mean much more than just fighting. The system of honor is (or better: was) known among men of higher class and the rules were extremely strict. Example: if a fencing master had to do a duel, his only weapon of choice were pistols. Sabre, Epee etc was forbidden for a fencing mas...

Giraut

Don't fight when you're angry. Don't fight an angry opponent. If you've got trouble with s.o., use modern civilized solutions. In my little salle I teach the art of duelling with heavy sabre as it was common in Germany up to early 20th century. I'd never, never fight a duell. Those times are gone an...

Giraut

Ogedei wrote:...
So what should a well to do Mongol do? ...

This:
http://neuesfechten.de/steppenkrieger/page-0057.htm

or this:
http://neuesfechten.de/steppenkrieger/page-0004.htm

or the left one of these:
http://neuesfechten.de/steppenkrieger/page-0031.htm

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