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- Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:57 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Black Prince armour had rotating vambraces on sliding rivets
- Replies: 68
- Views: 2032
Re: Black Prince armour had rotating vambraces on sliding ri
Mac, if you are going to chastise Bob, then JoJo deserves reprimand as well, while insightful he is often very rude. I find it hard to engage in conversation with someone who is rude and dismissive regardless of what they have to offer. Oh? Find the meanest, rudest thing I've ever posted, and link ...
- Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:55 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Black Prince armour had rotating vambraces on sliding rivets
- Replies: 68
- Views: 2032
Re: Black Prince armour had rotating vambraces on sliding ri
Hi Jarlragnar, I do not believe that is a valid argument in this discussion. If they hadn't yet thought of the sliding rivets, then you could have had all the money in the world in 1376 but you still couldn't buy a vambrace with sliding rivits. Cheers, Max With regard to the human aspect. I agree w...
- Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:52 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1051
Re: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
Here are some good front and back close ups of the Levitic pew armour. The cuffs look like scale to me. http://www.tforum.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=29729 Thanks for sharing that. I've actualy seen that form of armour in many diffirent palces. On sabatons, gauntlet cuffs, around the neck... I s...
- Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:46 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Black Prince armour had rotating vambraces on sliding rivets
- Replies: 68
- Views: 2032
Re: Black Prince armour had rotating vambraces on sliding ri
2. Obviously somebody invented the turner at one point. That said, before point X in time, it did not exist, and if it existed in one location, that does not mean that it existed in another. We cannot state boldly that it existed here, in 1400, then therefore it must have existed in England in 1350...
- Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:43 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: My wifes Bayoux work
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3829
Re: My wifes Bayoux work
Wow! It looks like a photo of the origional!
- Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:39 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Black Prince armour had rotating vambraces on sliding rivets
- Replies: 68
- Views: 2032
Re: Black Prince armour had rotating vambraces on sliding ri
I wasn't suggesting 100,000 cap-a-pie harnesses in use at one time. I was refering to the ammount of arm defenses probably made throughout the 14th century. Of course not eveyone would have had a full harness, though your average man-at-arms after 1350 probably had some sort of plate armour on the l...
- Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:39 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1051
Re: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
He's an unknown knight of the Pembrugge family. The effigy is English, dated to ~1350.Konstantin the Red wrote:Any ident on this knight?
- Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:03 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Traditional Samurai Armor.
- Replies: 12
- Views: 707
Re: Traditional Samurai Armor.
I made a few kozane scales from 20g steel with a handdrill. It's easy, though it'd take forever to produce enough to make anything.
- Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:34 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Straps for buckles- leather or metal?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 342
Re: Straps for buckles- leather or metal?
14th century is hard to make solid statements, though at least one effigy appears to be depicting buckles solidly attatched to the vambrace and rerebrace. (1375, England) Other effigies seem to suggest solidly mounted buckles were use for closed vambraces/rerebraces/cuisses/greaves, while leather wa...
- Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:41 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Thinkness of a gambeson
- Replies: 12
- Views: 565
Re: Thinkness of a gambeson
About an inch on the body and shoulders.
Half that on the arms.
Half that on the arms.
- Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:24 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Authentic kit questions
- Replies: 11
- Views: 567
Re: Authentic kit questions
You could wear a coat-of-plates in a variety of time frames. If you want to go 13th century, you could wear it with full mail, knees, a greathelm and a surcoat. (With hidden armour for limbs) At the other end, you could use it for mid 14th century, and wear it with a bascinet, full plate arms/greave...
- Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:10 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Authentic kit questions
- Replies: 11
- Views: 567
Re: Authentic kit questions
Well, what do you want to know?Baldricserf2william wrote:I have a few questions for anyone who is willing to answer them. i am building a kit and i want it to look accurate. If you wouldn't mind answering some questions that would be awesome thanks
For example, do you have a particular region or time period in mind?
- Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:43 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Floating style arms- happy at last.
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1866
Re: Re:
Where have you seen them?Keegan Ingrassia wrote:.......JoJo Zerach wrote:Nor have I ever seen evidence for creases going the other direction. (as is often the case on SCA elbows.)
- Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:57 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Floating style arms- happy at last.
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1866
Re: Re:
They look good. It took me a while to figure out why they looked different. I haven't seen elbows with the crease at 90 degrees to the line of the arm, before. They would certainly resist being pinched in better than the center crease in line with the arm. What time frame is the design from? Look a...
- Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:53 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 13th COP..does canvas work well?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 801
Re: 13th COP..does canvas work well?
Kilkenny, can you offer any other tricks for using roofing nails on cloth and having it work successfully? When I tried to rivet metal plates to canvas, I was find that the edge of the nail head was actually cutting the fabric. I beleive this was 10 oz cotton duck from Jo Anns. I used the same tech...
- Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:22 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 13th COP..does canvas work well?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 801
Re: 13th COP..does canvas work well?
Match the bend the leather makes as it surrounds you. To get a look at it you just check which hole your buckle tongue fits in when it's on you, then buckle the CoP closed at that same hole. Trace the curvature on something if you'd rather use that to check your curvatures against, then it's mallet...
- Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:18 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 13th COP..does canvas work well?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 801
Re: 13th COP..does canvas work well?
Canvas can work, but from my experience, cloth is a PITA to use in armour. It frays, must be hemmed, you have to use an awl or something to make holes, and you have to be very cautious when riveting, as you can pulverize and the the cloth very easy. Leather is more expensive, but it doesn't share th...
- Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:06 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1051
Re: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
About the drawing, I suggest a bit of prudence, it looks like one of those XVIII/XIX° Cent. drawings, it would be better to look at the real effigy (I've never seen an effigy with such pose) to avoid wild speculation or misunderstandings from the artist. With this I ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT to dismiss...
- Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:15 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Online stores of armor. Prompt.
- Replies: 16
- Views: 994
Re: Online stores of armor. Prompt.
James river armoury
- Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:13 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Why was coat-of-plates material so popular in the 14thC?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1730
Re: Why was coat-of-plates material so popular in the 14thC?
not really.Maelduin mac D wrote:a rather red face right about now?Max Keeren wrote:. What do you have exactly?
Cheers,
Max
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:20 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Looking for armour stand
- Replies: 6
- Views: 422
Re: Looking for armour stand
You can make a PVC pipe man.
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:03 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Why was coat-of-plates material so popular in the 14thC?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1730
Re: Why was coat-of-plates material so popular in the 14thC?
It's just the few peices I have in my collection.Max Keeren wrote:Jojo,
Could you clarify where you have handled authentic armour pieces?
Cheers,
max
I was mainly refering to photographs, where even heavialy corroded armour, like the visby gauntlets, don't look like other corroded iron.
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:28 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Why was coat-of-plates material so popular in the 14thC?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1730
Re:
One must also keep in mind that furnaces at this time were relatively small, and produced small blooms that were chock full of slag. Breast plates would not be possible to make in a single piece, and great helms were made, in part, because a piece of iron was not large enough to cover the entire he...
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:33 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Anyone have trouble viewing pitbullarmory.com? Order Update
- Replies: 11
- Views: 577
Re: Anyone have trouble viewing pitbullarmory.com? Order Up
It seems to work on my computer.
What happened to the model woman that used to be on your front page?
What happened to the model woman that used to be on your front page?
- Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:13 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: roll steel?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 374
Re: roll steel?
I don't use a stake.
After flaring the edge to 90 degrees, I just palce the piece on a bichorn and hammer the roll towords me. Then I hammer down on the roll, tilting the piece up as I go. This gives a narrow/tall yet rounded roll.
After flaring the edge to 90 degrees, I just palce the piece on a bichorn and hammer the roll towords me. Then I hammer down on the roll, tilting the piece up as I go. This gives a narrow/tall yet rounded roll.
- Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:17 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1051
Re: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
Pardon my ignorance. All the Wisby gauntlet reproductions I've seen were of splinted (or the appearance of splinted) construction. I'll have to take a look at this book you refer to. What it really boils down to for me is: Were these type of cuffs in use historically and are there any armors who ma...
- Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:13 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Are Finger Bucklers Documentable?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 729
Re: Are Finger Bucklers Documentable?
The image you posted was the one I was refering too.Mac wrote:JoJo,
I am, of course, always willing and able to chance my mind if the evidence warrants it. If there are any other images, let's see 'em.
Mac
- Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:03 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Garden hose
- Replies: 32
- Views: 1841
Re: Garden hose
JoJo was having his little joke, Odd. Hal, automotive hose also comes plenty small if you want to attach it whole as the resilient bouncy part beneath any covering, some kind of array like so in cross section: C O[ -- C for covering, O for hose, [ for edge of the wood. Actually, I've never heard of...
- Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:46 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Garden hose
- Replies: 32
- Views: 1841
Re: Garden hose
How do you make cuisses with garden hose? Your femur wouldn't even fit inside one!
- Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:40 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Show me some great kits 14th century mafia
- Replies: 99
- Views: 5544
Re: Show me some great kits 14th century mafia
Many slightlier earlier greaves had hinges on the inside and outside, maybe they opened up the back.
- Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:03 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Floating style arms- happy at last.
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1866
Re: Floating style arms- happy at last.
I love 'em. I just wonder, though; are the bows made from tying the cord pointing the armor pieces to each other supposed to be exposed like that? I am not aware of any effigies where I see that being the case. "Floating" arms in effigies were probably generally made with leather articualtion. You ...
- Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:01 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Just for fun, military development of the early 20th century
- Replies: 15
- Views: 660
Re: Just for fun, military development of the early 20th cen
This thread made me think, why do they issue soldiers torso protection designed to protect against rifle threats, but helemts only designed for shrapnel?
- Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:47 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Are Finger Bucklers Documentable?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 729
Re: Are Finger Bucklers Documentable?
Yes, I've seen them in manuscipt illsutrations.
That one was late 14th century, though it'd be hard to determine exactly when they came into use.
That one was late 14th century, though it'd be hard to determine exactly when they came into use.
- Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:38 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Show me some great kits 14th century mafia
- Replies: 99
- Views: 5544
Re: Show me some great kits 14th century mafia
This is my current kit and new spring steel legs. The legs are hardened spring steel, all made from single raised pieces, with brass trim (courtesy of Red Hart Reproductions). In a few more weeks the rest of the harness will be finished, and I'll post more pics when it's all done. The main thing I ...
- Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:36 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1051
Re: Simple cuff finger gauntlets?
Exactly what I was getting at. Thanks. I saw a much smaller version of that image recently. I love all the elements on that guy. His spurs are ridiculous :D Now that I see it closer I see what your talking about with the articulation. Do you know how far on the inside of the wrist/forearm the plate...