The Armour Archive

lorenzo2

There is one with brig sleeves at the Met. It probably went with a breast plate or some other non brig defense so the torso is buff leather.

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lorenzo2

Hi guys,

I took at least one pic of every piece from the Chalcis horde on display in Athens in 2005.

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lorenzo2

I have used patterns from Talbot, Wade and others before. You can learn a lot from a good pattern just as you can from good pictures. Usually the first piece I make in metal ends up as a learning experience which then goes into producing a better pattern for the next one. I look at patterns you get ...

lorenzo2

Thanks for the article. it is interesting that the piece transitions from the linear to the triangular rivet pattern at the bottom.

lorenzo2

Here is some text from King Rene. Note the rods that can be attached to the armour. I suspect a better translation might be sewed than glued. In Brabant, Flanders and Hainault, and in those countries near the Germanies, they are accustomed to arms themselves differently for a tourney. They take a de...

lorenzo2

I don't know about this object. However, I have seen several leather fireman's hats that looked similar to this item. If its 19th or early 20th century it is likely one of these.

lorenzo2

Perhaps they intend to field dress the quarry and will use the rope to aid in transport.

lorenzo2

The fortress was captured by the Turks in about 1470. However, we do not know the exact age of the material found there. It may have been kept around for some time or it may be that styles in the area lagged behind styles in Italy. http://www.wassonartistry.com/armor.php?w=cuirasses The blue and yel...

lorenzo2

I tried the super quench on a gauntlet body. The results were fair but there was some definite warping.

lorenzo2

This also happens in modern cities. I was excavating on a project on a boulevard and found train tracks and old pavement from the 1800's 6 feet below the current ground surface.

lorenzo2

I think the black things may be the artists rendition of bows. The one in the lower left corner has a string attached.

lorenzo2

I think they are both articulated knees. The left one is just twisted around. Note the strap. People involved in these scenes often have a disheveled appearance or are partly undressed to show their moral failings.

lorenzo2

arrgh internet double post, sorry!

lorenzo2

Take a strip of the padding you are going to wear under the helm and wrap it around your head. Then take the measurement. Also remember there is a crest you need a little room for. I think you will find the measurement of 14 inches per side is big for historical padding but not far off for thick SCA...

lorenzo2

My experience is that the helm warps as soon as you cut it. Getting all the edges of the cut sections to go back together and be the correct final dimensions is quite difficult also. Then the pieces warp again as you are welding them and won't want to meet up. In this case, starting from scratch is ...

lorenzo2

I think you should experiment with some firm felt padding to fill in the gaps first. I have tried cutting up and reassembling helms before and its much tougher than you imagine it to be.

lorenzo2

Those are cool, particularly the compression articulation. I wonder if you could make a form to press the elbow cops in so they would have a deeper profile which would make the articulations on the outer part of the arm work even better? Have to be careful not to thin the cops too much though.

lorenzo2

Thanks Mac,

In my mind I was imagining a wave of metal that had to be raised out to the edge of the piece.

lorenzo2

Mac, Interesting thread that goes with the similar one on greaves. I have a question, when you work on the area where the cone top connects to the cylindrical bottom section do you start at the weld and work outward in the up and down directions or start on one side and work all the way across? Also...

lorenzo2

Its also got an intregral standing collar. These are known on 15th/16th century brigandines. I am unaware of any from prior centuries.

lorenzo2

That is a very elegant work of art and I'm sure you will do it justice. Although the fancy hat on the statue is nice I'm wondering what is planned for the helm? Some sort of highly decorated sallet and bevor? Is there a similar piece that has a helmet that you can work from?

lorenzo2

THere is a pointy elbow formed from a welded cone. Interesting.

lorenzo2

I'm having trouble understanding what you are going to do. Are you saying you are going to cast copper finials on an existing copper torc? It seems to me that either you are going to have molten copper melting the torc or you are going to have a weak cold joint depending on how hot the molten copper...

lorenzo2

I think there is a Da Vinci manuscript that shows thread forming machines. That would likely be a few decades after the manuscripts already mentioned.

lorenzo2

Nice, just drill down a bit to get to the text and photos.

lorenzo2

Nice elbow forming and planishing stake.

lorenzo2

There is an existing brig belonging to one of the Doges of Venice that is of cloth of gold brocade. One of the corrazinas at the met has a cover with a diamond pattern, not a brocade but a fancy woven pattern. Really, the question is does your personna merit garments of brocade or not? Brigandines w...

lorenzo2

I like those splinted defenses. They look very comfortable.

lorenzo2

I used a set of wades patterns as a starting point for some german arms and shoulders a while back and they were excellent. Basically I resized them to fit and made prototype out of paper and made a few tweeks. They saved me a lot of time. Wade, you should put those patterns up, they are really easy...

lorenzo2

Mac,

Can you add some additional details to explain what you mean by "back raising the ridges out" in you descripiton of shaping the helmet top. I am having some problems visualizing the technique.

lorenzo2

I use a North respirator like the one shown. It very comfortable, for a respirator.

lorenzo2

Thanks for sharing

lorenzo2

I only got to go Saturday but still learned alot. 8 hours went by in a flash. Having that venue with any tool you want and quality examples from a variety of centuries and cultures was great. Someone would say something like how does that compare between 15th and 16th century armours and you could p...

lorenzo2

I'm going to be there as well. So, what time will the festivities begin?

lorenzo2

I have seen pics of an existing pair of armored hose on a german site with tiny plates sewn inside. It may be depicting something similar. The site I saw it on is the one with all the links to collections in german museums, can't remember the name, something like bildindex.de?

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