The Armour Archive

Murdock

Bascot i ment i'm not tolerant in the SCA tradition of "whatever you wanna do even if it sucks is ok".

I'm perfectly happy with us getting to HE level! that would rule!

Murdock

"This is often hard because in the SCA we are trained to be so." Guess i'm poorly trained. What i'm thinking is putting a list togethere of folks that sell acceptable stuff. Then recomend that folks either get their stuff from those vendors or that they try to approximate the item. 2 pirmary sources...

Murdock

Point your arms to a arming coat.

They'll work better

Murdock

Who requiers 14 ga limb armour?

Not the SCA

Murdock

St George is very heavily used and there is a major legue LH group already using it.

Still we are English and allies.

I'm leaning toward White Co.

Might also help focus us, i'll look up exactally what years they were in operation in Italy.

Maybe use a specific campaign of theirs.

Murdock

I'm in a large barony and have the same problem. No one comes to practice.

I just pell and get really irritated.

Murdock

_I'm_ not sick of you pushing the 14th C

Heck i think you right. Espically about the armour, why else do so many Celts end up in Churburg style legs?

Murdock

Does anyone carry the small open faced bascinets in north america?

On the Check "best armour" site they are the SLB 1.2, 1.4, 1.5 amd 2.3 i think.

Those would be the style of helmi see our infanty and archers in.

Murdock

AFAIL the Irish, well the whole British isles, never had all that much of an indeginous arour industry.

They did have one but not like Italy or Germany.

When your guy lives is as importatnt a where.
He's probably in whatever the French/English armour fashion was a few years earlier.

Murdock

If ya just have to be french http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif then we could alwys have prisoners we're waiting on ransom from. Also my persona in the SCA doesn't make much sense for this either, for this i'll probably be English. Awwwww Chef $130? really? crap. Still nice stuff, i'll make ...

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Tim i think it's because they buy helms off the teble that were not fitted to them.

That and people seem to want to put 4 feet of padding in them.

Ya just don't need it.

Murdock

"Just because you are a garb/authenticity snob, don't get bent out of shape when you see someone who is not. If their outfit/armour/accessories are jarring your delicate sensibilities, turn around and look at the CAR that you came in. Is that period? Nope. Deal with it. 6. So you do not want to stic...

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Basically it looks like we're gonna borrow heavily from the current Lh orgs in the US. I like the inspection (vetting) plan. Regia does that too. I'm in the process of writing the standards as well as minimum kits and the like. It's basicsally the same as LaBell or Armet standards. I'm not the most ...

Murdock

Sir Conal banned a buncha stuff as EM.

We luuuuuuuuuvvvvvvv Conal!!!

Murdock

I was at Gulf wars i saw this KSCA. He was wearing a megadeath t shirt (might have been slayer or metallica) torn up camo pants. Legs that looked like they were made of duct tape, a rusty ole helm that i think once was a spuntop. Looked literaly like a turd witha grill on it. It was lumpy and brown....

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Escrima is fun. The sticks are very very different, they tend to be much lighter and shorter than SCA sticks. Escrima tournamnets do look a bit like SCA fighting accasionally, due to the hockey gloves and roller blade knees. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif But the pace is generally alot f...

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The easiest armour to make that will pass SCA arour inspection and is period in appearence will probaly be based on 14th C armour.

Murdock

Thats the basic way i see us doing it.

You are the rank you can actually portray.

Like i said no "awards" no playing butt kiss for cookie.

No katanas

Oh and the Checz arourer i posted has period helmet liners, and simple bascinets for about $88 if i did the exchange right.

1US = 34Check

Murdock

I wanna be an indy car racer.

I can't afford the car, i wanna use my beat up ole truck.

They're mean if they won't let me.

Murdock

"Have you considered that a reign typically costs 5-8 thousand dollars. ( A recent Ansteorran Crown spent 14k on a reign). Look at a couple of reigns and you have just dropped 10-15k on your hobby." Sorry i don't by that the cost is that debilitating. Besides no one forces us to fight in crown. When...

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#1 get rid of the "local group" syatem as the means of hosting events. It lest people who may not even play out of their group have authority over what the Kingdom at large does. This is why we have almost no period spacific events. #2 Create a "hardsuit league" let people who can fight with rebeats...

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I'd wear a kettle hat

Ya get another helm and ya keep the sun out of yer face

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Jean Richard Hi A bunch of us are in Meridies so your not all that far away. Welcome to er well uhm we don't really have a name yet. And like Rhys said we wanna be what a normal soldier portrayal would have had in our period. No katanas! right now the topica list is called http://www.topica.com/list...

Murdock

Also go to Brion's roundtable, it's worth skipping a night of drinking.

I'm glad i avoided the virgin party.
I go ape shi# if anyone tries to tie me up or cuff me or anyting, i hate it.

Murdock

I really doubt we'll have the problem of 10 guy with knight grade gear. AFAIK only Rhys and Bascot have all the stuff to be close. If your gonna be a knight then you have to have pretty much _all_ the stuff. Like i said out of 30ish i expect 2 knights tops. Maybe none. As for butted mail? Doesn't bo...

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another armour source

looks good!

comes recommended and vouched for.http://www.bestarmour.com/index.htm

Murdock

"and your penis staked to the ground."

ouch

would explain the origin of knee fighting though

Murdock

Yes please Gwen!!! Where and when?? I agree it's much easier to be a man at arms sergant or infantry type accurately. I hope we have handgoonners and archers and billmen and the like. As ai said before if we have 30 guys, i expect we _might_ get 2-3 knights. I'm gonna try for a pretty well off profe...

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Just checked my mail!

He'll be at Pensic!!!!

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Mail might be used by a billman or an archer. But a knight would have something stouter. Even a better off Sergant would have mail+ something. That reminds me CoPs are still being used in this period? Is Massa G's Cop kit period enough? I've never actually given one more than a curseory look. Bob yo...

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He's been playing for 6 years, by his own admission his rig is basically plastic people gave him. He whines that no one gave him anything better, that he has no money to but $400 worth of armour _over 6 years_. If he just put a buck a day in there for a year he'd about have it. He repeatedly yells t...

Murdock

I agree, i'm just waiting for folks like Chef to tell him stuff.

Murdock

I started in a spagen helm made by a local guy. Nice helm. Gorget i made, vambraces i made. Both leather. Legs from red falcom armoury, pauldrons from RFA, half guantlets RFA, full gunats RFA. A padded doublet, made by my wife. And a kidney belt. I looked pretty goofy IMO. But i got better. Dropped ...

Murdock

Lets worry bout a name later. Thats not all that big a deal to me. I'm much more worried about our kits. Eating wear? Plates? bowls? furniture? Chests? tables? lanterns? Garb we're ok on for sources, armour we probably know more about that than anything else being armour dorks. Swords and weapons, i...

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Oh i dream of making "low 30's"