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by Murdock
Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:32 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: How we can make it better - SCA
Replies: 31
Views: 16

"Is this the proverbial slip or merely a typo? " Well actually it was an editing problem. Was suppoed to be crowd. I had written something like "folks in weight belts nikes and a crown" originally. It's sad that a Barony would not host a fiore seminar. The study of medieval combat and the SCA won't ...
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:40 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: What about LEATHER armor?
Replies: 12
Views: 21

Leather is fine by me.

It's about all i can make by myself and have it not look like crap.

It's sometimes weird to see stuff like a burgundian gothic leather suit but her they did make behord armour out of leather and from what little i know of that it was supposed to look like metal armour.
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:36 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
Replies: 109
Views: 51

Oh yeah "a dipshit" should really back off a bit.

It _was_ funny. Now it's not. Makes me miss the ninja.
:P
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:35 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: What is the best weapon for the general man with arms.
Replies: 29
Views: 12

He's no troll as far as i can tell.

He seems to be a nice young guy thats genuinely interested in this.
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:31 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Therion Arms
Replies: 9
Views: 7

Oh gawd please be at Pensic!!!!

I saw your stuff at gulf wars and i was just too broke to buy anything.

Must Get Rebeat!!
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:29 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
Replies: 109
Views: 51

Owen i really don't want to tighten the time period all that much. Maybe fall of Rome to 1650. I get real tiered of all the 1st century "celts" and 18th century fencers in a medieval organization. I don't ,mind mixed periods all that much as a concept. I'm also sure we'll never get folks in general ...
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:18 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Why plastic?
Replies: 72
Views: 92

"the very way you present them makes me take offence. You come across as precisely the type of anti plastic nazi that I'm referring to. Pay attention to the whole post, pal, not just the parts that disagree with your all mighty answers to all the worlds questions." Well bud you came on here spouting...
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 6:02 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

I'm just throwing stuff out there.

Blue Company, might give folks the wrong idea.

I like Saint names.

But Gwen's right when in doubt research.
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 5:50 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Why plastic?
Replies: 72
Views: 92

Ok now we have the same thing posted again. "Its like this: Is plastic period? Hell No Does it breath? Hell No Does it look more authentic if its black instead of green, white or blue? Hell No But you know what? I don't really give a damn if its authentic or not." And there ya have it folks. Because...
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 4:45 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

ok i just typed for 20 min to have it not post so here's the quick version. We're gonna have authenticity officers like Regia. Rhys made the other point. Is it reasonably believeable that the guy would have had it. The weirder it is the more you'll have to document it. For a name, i like "The Black ...
by Murdock
Mon Jun 17, 2002 1:02 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: period helmet liners
Replies: 28
Views: 46

oops

Basically a bascinet (been answered, thanks) Image

Barbute

Kettle hat

Tnanks much!!
by Murdock
Sun Jun 16, 2002 11:10 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: period helmet liners
Replies: 28
Views: 46

period helmet liners

Anyone have any good pictuers of the inside of some period helmet liners?

I have Price's bible, so i have a few.

I really want to know what my attachement options are for things like suspension liners.
by Murdock
Sun Jun 16, 2002 10:59 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

Also how bout these as minimal guatlets http://www.dbis.ns.ca/~carlomeg/fguantlet.jpg

I believe $230 from trueheart.
by Murdock
Sun Jun 16, 2002 10:56 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: What is the best weapon for the general man with arms.
Replies: 29
Views: 12

When are you talking about?

Against what type of armour?

I'd have to say the poll axe in the hands of a skilled used.

In mass English long bow.

might ad,
The stirrup Image

But the question is kinda vague.
by Murdock
Sun Jun 16, 2002 10:53 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA-How do you stop the wrap shot?
Replies: 29
Views: 15

Kill the other guy first

:P
by Murdock
Sun Jun 16, 2002 10:52 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
Replies: 109
Views: 51

I was mearly reversing what Anon said. It's apparently fine that they want "us" to leave, but if anyone suggest that they might in fact be doing anything thats inappropriate then we're supposed to take our toys and go home. yet another double standard in the SCA. If the Elves were still here i'd ven...
by Murdock
Sun Jun 16, 2002 8:48 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

As for the events Bob, i was just suggesting meeting there so we can talk about it. Be faster than typing here. Plus can anyone critique the hilts on these swords? Chef? Bascot? Rhys? Gwen? Which ones look most appropriate for us? http://www.therionarms.com/AAM/weaponry.shtml [This message has been ...
by Murdock
Sun Jun 16, 2002 6:42 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
Replies: 109
Views: 51

"Remember folks, this is a game....If your game has to have no plastic, there are any number of splinter groups that agree with you for you to play with." Thats always the final argument, after the cost issue, the weight issue, the durability issue are all blow away, then we get the tiered old. "It'...
by Murdock
Sun Jun 16, 2002 6:15 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

I've alwasy thought of that. I have shirts that are 10 years old. I have a gun thats 30 years old. We have military equipment (the M-2 the p38 can opener, the Gi pot helm ) that was used for decades in our era. So a 10-15 year span isn't bizzare imo. I was thinking our group would be English and All...
by Murdock
Sun Jun 16, 2002 12:02 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: What can the SCA be?
Replies: 25
Views: 19

If there is enough light i will try to get pics of the Border RAids pas.

I'd suggest getting pics from the historical combat series at Pensic, including the Pas.

Maybe check the garb out at Brion's Roundtable chat.

I was amazed at the "day garb" people had on there the first time i went.
by Murdock
Sat Jun 15, 2002 11:29 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

Thats a good start Rhys, looks alot like the "14th Century complete outfit" from HE. And believe it or not i don't work for them, as much as i've been pushing them it kinda sounds that way. I'd also ad that you'd probably wanna get a bed roll and some wool blankets to sleep on/in. As for cooking whe...
by Murdock
Sat Jun 15, 2002 6:38 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

Oh here's what i'm seeing as a basic militatry kit. From the depictions i see nearly everyone has on a helm, mostly Bascinets, i think i'm seeing few kettle hats. Bascinets seem to often have no visor or avential for the infantry. Some kinda padded body armour, like a jack,guantlets, also see lots o...
by Murdock
Sat Jun 15, 2002 6:20 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: War of the Roses harness for sale
Replies: 11
Views: 22

GLEN!!!!

How ya been?

You still wanna try to do some WOR LH???

BTW i may be willing to buy some of your gear.

email me
by Murdock
Sat Jun 15, 2002 5:49 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14cen armour (SCA)
Replies: 7
Views: 14

If your useing the pattern i'm thinking of the over lap will keep your ribs in place.

Plus your wearing the hauburke with it, you'll be fine.
by Murdock
Sat Jun 15, 2002 5:39 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

As far as i can tell they didn't have uniforms like we think of them now. If you were retained to a knight or some other Noble you might wear his livery. Work on getting your clothes first. Looking at Le Bell and Red Co they seem to be in clothes and military gear. We'll start out with Red Co 1st ye...
by Murdock
Sat Jun 15, 2002 5:25 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Why plastic?
Replies: 72
Views: 92

"I wouldn't dismiss padded garments in a Viking Age context that quickly. -No there are no outright find -Yes there are some contemporary depictions that could indicate it being used." I was almost gonna say that. While there is slim evidence of the use of leather or padded armour by the Nordic peop...
by Murdock
Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:34 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

I agrre, we have to have a mix of portrayals. As other groups do it i believ;, no horsey, no knighty. I'm gonn definately start out with a billman. He may just end up as a heavily armoured billman I was thinking we'd have maybe 3 "knights" assuming 25 soldiers total. Maybe a couple other mounted guy...
by Murdock
Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:25 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Why plastic?
Replies: 72
Views: 92

Yeah that was at Hastings 2000 and lots of people i've talked to that went thought that the suggestion and allowence of plastic was rediculous. Some of the REgia folks were livid. Angry in a way you've never even heard on the AA. No i can't tell which guy is in the hidden plastic in those pics Brodi...
by Murdock
Fri Jun 14, 2002 9:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Tips for a newbie fighter.
Replies: 4
Views: 12

Ok who's in Oregon that can help this guy. #1 Take your time. Your very very young, glad to see young folks interested. The various groups will be here when ya turn 18 and can fight "heavy". Make a pell, a padded post or a punching bag. I'd get a wooden dowell their cheap and come in lengths of abou...
by Murdock
Fri Jun 14, 2002 9:46 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: What can the SCA be?
Replies: 25
Views: 19

"We already do that here in Caid, though its very lax at wars and some things are allowed more than others, hockey gloves are still allowed, even though they should be painted out, they still look like hockey gloves. They are rare however." We're on that road here thanks to Sir Conal. I still see je...
by Murdock
Fri Jun 14, 2002 9:40 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Plastic Versus Metal Armor
Replies: 109
Views: 51

"Samurai have been around since the 11th century. Decidedly more in period than out of it. As for the range of study, I refer you to the SCA's governing documents which allow for other cultures" It's legal yes. So are lots of things that doen'nt make em right. It's more or less a personal thing, by ...
by Murdock
Fri Jun 14, 2002 9:06 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th century/ Hundered years war LH
Replies: 174
Views: 193

"As far as private events, the possibilities are endless. A Living History event with competitive fighting. Think about it, this could be a very big deal." Thats what i've got in my head. I'd love to do a big 14th C camp at Pensic or Lillies or Gulf wars. Unfortuenatly we'd be stuck so far off in a ...
by Murdock
Fri Jun 14, 2002 9:00 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14cen armour (SCA)
Replies: 7
Views: 14

Hauburke under cop

I'd use galvanized 18-20 gague steel, for the plates.
Way cheaper than stainless you can get it at most hardware stores and it's rust resistant.
by Murdock
Fri Jun 14, 2002 8:52 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Why plastic?
Replies: 72
Views: 92

If your persona would not have worn plat ehe sure wouldn't have worn plastic either. And if leather is is not hotter and more period then why not ues it? As for a material that in some cases more authentically estamates period weight. Aluminum does that on accasion. Plastic is often quite think and ...
by Murdock
Fri Jun 14, 2002 8:51 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Why plastic?
Replies: 72
Views: 92

If your persona would not have worn plat ehe sure wouldn't have worn plastic either. And if leather is is not hotter and more period then why not ues it? As for a material that in some cases more authentically estamates period weight. Aluminum does that on accasion. Plastic is often quite think and ...