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by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:09 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

Sigfrith: but if it's UNNECESARY to the sport, why accept even that much damage? Are head shots truly necessary? Polearms certainly aren't. Out in the West, I think you would find people to agree that ARM shots are not necessary (I don't mean "not acted out" I mean that they don't count a...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:03 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

[quote="Gaston de Vieuxchamps"] It's not as useful in a shieldwall and the lack of regular 1 on 1 practice with strapped shields may have hurt our melee perfomance a tiny bit [quote] You are doing it wrong. http://lh4.ggpht.com/_JoiC0vGwW3o/S60RqtKwcAI/AAAAAAAAAag/L3fmnb640G4/s800/watir_pr...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

I'm actually going to be discussing the matter with some doctors and physiotherapists soon to get their opinions and either confirm or verify my suspicions and be able to provice a more factual argument. Let us know if you find one that says "oh, those repeated head blows with a 4 lb. polearm ...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:44 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: no thrusting tips in kingdom tournys
Replies: 175
Views: 3722

I think this is in my Manifesto, but I agree with Logan that thrusts have to be hard. And the primary barrier to this is having a helmet that is improperly padded or strapped. About two years ago, Uther's two squires were fighting on their knees trying to sewing machine each other with their thrusti...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:05 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

I think knee fighting is not a _particularly_ bizarre part of what we do. As for people with bad knees... I have a bad wrist. Should I get to hit lighter? "The Vitus Proposal" (VP) is, of those I've heard, probably the least game changing. I also like that it prevents me from counting past...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:21 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Duke Avery's Guide to Fighting Crown Tournament
Replies: 18
Views: 1121

It is notable what a huge factor "arm dropping" played in this list. - Your fight with Brian (you arm him, switch & drop, lose) - Your fight with Cyrus (he arms you, drops shield, double kill - you win refight) - Alfar's fight with Ob (Ob arms Alfar, drops shield, double kill, Alfar wi...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:01 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

Not yet any comments on the actual text, just a small side note that there are two other knights in that lineage you listed: Viscount Franz von Hohenklingen from Nordmark and myself. We both were squired to Jade. GrimR Sorry GrimR, oversight on my part. I think I also left off Blaney from Lochac (w...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:01 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

Near the bottom of page 18 you used the word "inspire" when IK think you meant "aspire". Near the middle of page 25 "long" instead of "wrong" There are other typos, too but I got the impression this is still sort of a draft. Well, I could use an editor. It's ...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:44 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

Re: False Chivalry and Conventions of Combat

What you call "false chivalry" and "conventions of combat" are often the same thing from different perspectives. Given the current Western flap over shield sizes, I found your mention of equipment under false chivalry to be both amusing and interesting--more from a political tha...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:38 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

Re: Manifesto

Valgards wrote: Not surprisingly, since one-handed axes and maces were an important part of my training, and almost nobody had basket hilts in those days.


Right. You ARE a special and unique snowflake.
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:35 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

I was trained to fight strategically initially, to choose my weapons like a would a golf club depending on what my opponent was doing, and it was not a bad way to fight. I believe that the best strategy for training is to pick one thing and stick with it, but that one thing can indeed be mace or sw...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:48 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

Another way of putting this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

"False Chivalry", "Fear of Success", and "Fear of Failure" are all highly related.
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:19 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

For the record: I have no problem with attacking people arms or being attacked there. I don't "hunt" them - that is, I would not engage in a series of maneuvers designed to get you to expose your arm where I could then blast it. If your arm is in front of your head or your body when I am s...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:03 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

And it is important to me to point out that there is no such thing as an 'unwritten rule'. If it's unwritten, it is not a rule. It is not incumbent on me as a fighter to announce at the beginning of every combat that I will be following the rules as-published - ie, swinging for sword-arms with inte...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:37 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

I also trend toward the "Duke Sir Logan School of Calibration", in that I believe that every time a fighter accepts a blow he or she deems unacceptable to 'save face' or 'make the fight look cleaner', it weakens both him or her and the Society, and found that portion of the text a bit equ...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:21 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

Try as they might, no one has ever sufficiently explained this concept to me. If it's legal, I'm going to try and hit it.


The important thing (to me) is that both parties know all the rules and conventions - both unwritten and otherwise - before "it's on".
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:04 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

That is certainly one of the areas of the work that I thought would piss people off. I should probably re-read it and see if it needs clarification.
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:11 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

Nice job Sigfrith. Lots of common ground with the way I was taught to fight by HE Sir Sagan. (as might be expected) For those who don't know, Sagan taught Jade and I think Fabian and a couple other Western Dukes. Every now and again Jade will spout off some perfect Saganism... I really have no idea...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

Cei wrote:Just scanned it, but this is going to make some fine reading. Thanks sincerely for all of the time and effort.

(thrusting is for fencers)


Oh, that reminds me. Full disclosure: This document has R-rated language.
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:21 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Fighting Manifesto
Replies: 65
Views: 2110

Fighting Manifesto

So, I have been sitting on this for about a year now after the 1st revision. I have shared the document with household and friends, but it was always intended to shared with the world. I suppose that I am apprehensive that my words, representing those I have learned over the years in the Line of Gre...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:15 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Helms used at the Battle of Visby (Wisby)
Replies: 80
Views: 2298

Anyone want to donate a whole pig and a cheap hauberk to the experiment? Good idea! Dress the (dead) pig in the mail day one of Pennsic. On the morning of the last day, dump the pig in the middle of the battlefield, and tell folks that anyone willing to get the armor may keep it. Experimental archa...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:08 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The Good Shot
Replies: 29
Views: 1141

I don't think the OP question can be answered until we decided through what armor. I fight in a chain shirt with a modern sports hexpad or zoom bang under it. If get hit square, it leaves a mark. (aside, I got hit in the shield upper arm shoulder -- protected by chain and hexpad) the other day at pr...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:07 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: The Good Shot
Replies: 29
Views: 1141

Ulric wrote:The presumed armour standard should be done away with. (snip)


And replaced with the standard that we already use. Which is that you are bested when you are bested.

EDIT: Unless we mandate that everyone actually wear something approximating the standard. Or more, I guess.
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:22 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Grettr of Clovenshield lookng for a fight in California
Replies: 29
Views: 896

Grettir puts the "Mench" in Mercenary.

Guys like him are welcome no matter how the hold up their trousers, or to which pretend authority they swear to.
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

I think you are misinterpreting "11". ... So the top end of each person's "good" range is their "10".... In other words, I don't consider "11" and "excessive" to be equivalent terms and I believe you are inappropriately equating them in your argumen...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:30 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

The one who is a very good fighter and you are hard pressed to get that one good shot in and then when it finally comes in with all you want on it, he ignores it. Everyone misses shots, the most chivalrous fighter in the world can miss a shot. The difference is that if I find out I've missed one an...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:12 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Grettr of Clovenshield lookng for a fight in California
Replies: 29
Views: 896

I'll be there too... I hope I managed to scare up a couple of worthies as well. I suspect we'll have to fight on the tarmac though.
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:59 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

We can't re write the rules because in order to do so we would have to remove the honor system. The honor system is the beauty of our game. Without the ugly side of that we would have no way to judge and be inspired by the pretty side. Wow! This is actually a critical point. If we had, say, electro...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

Yeah. And "excessive" is the foot-in-the-door for a marshal to talk to him. "I think you are hitting him too hard" isn't. "You just blew his entire arm harness off.. I think that might be a tad excessive" is. Pretty much what I said, although I was more oblique: ...exc...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

So, by general consensus, the rules as stated are not followed? Time for new rules. Not sure which rule you want to change - but in general - I think that the rules should match what people actually do. (Which is, in my estimation) basically what Maryk outlined - a good shot is good when it's calle...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

"Excessive" is the safety-loophole. If you are blowing people's grills off their helmets, and creasing 12 gauge helms for no good reason other than you just like to hit people that hard, a marshal has every right to step in and call it and tell you to lighten the hell up. So, in other wor...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:23 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

Oh and on rules: I agree with Leo that the chainmail standard is crap, but for different reasons. It's crap not (necessarily) because we don't hit hard enough... but it's crap because it's an impossible standard to calibrate too. And I actually fight in a chain shirt! Instead of rewriting the armor ...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:16 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

SUMMARY OF WISDOM (IN THE LAST TWO PAGES AT LEAST) Isn't that kind of the point, though? Can you honestly put a real name to this? I don't disagree that some fighters are thicker than others (and in at least one case, off the scale), and many fighters sometimes go through "thick" phases; b...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

Hmm...actually quite a bit of wisdom dropped down in this thread. but first: To my knowledge I've broken two people's arm. In neither case did I do anything unusual, just throwing my normal shots. One fellow really did do it to himself by blocking with his shield - make that shield ARM, he didn't ha...
by Sigifrith Hauknefr
Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:31 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: How to fix a Rhino (SCA).
Replies: 340
Views: 7860

Oh, and it's extremely difficult to intentionally concuss someone wearing a properly padded and strapped helm (of at least 14 ga. or so... I don't know anyone who fights in 16ga although it's technically legal so I cannot comment on their resistance to concussion) with a single handed rattan broadsw...

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