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Talbot

I glad to see that Mid 15th century Italian arm again. It once had brass edging. This is really unusual for the period. I know it was sold out of the Barry Collection by Sothebys. I was unaware the RA had bought it.

Talbot

That is my absolute favorite as well. I got my copy on ebay for about $12. At the same time(within the week), I got the annual book with the article on the etching for about $15, also on ebay. The really neat thing about the Galiot's book, is that it tells you as much information about the suit as ...

Talbot

My all time favorites are as follows: Boccia, L.G.; Coelho, E.T. - L'Arte Dell'Armature in Italia (This book is an excellent source for pitures of Italian armour. I'm sure the text is great too but it is in Italain and I don't read it so well. None the less it is still Number 1 on my list) Scalini, ...

Talbot

I've been activly researching surviving examples of 14th century armour for over 20 years now. I've written to or bee in contact with virtually every museum in the world that has any 14th century armour.

just a minor obsessin of mine...

Talbot

IV.497 in the RA and and an extremely similar one in the Bargello are the only authentic klappvisiers that I am aware of (without going through all the pieces in my photo collection) with holes that SUGGEST a strap to hold down the visor. There is one in the Hungarian national that has a spring pin ...

Talbot

They are in the Statens Historika Museum. Here is the contact info. Statens Historika Museum NarvavÃƒÂ¤gen 13-17, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-519 556 00 http://www.historiska.se/ info@historiska.se If you get any of this info I'd love to know about it too. Please share.

Talbot

I've been in contact with Daniel Peterson (He does Roman reenacting) but have lost his email address in an old computer crash. I need to talk with him again. can anyone help me?

Talbot

Viking Art by Ole Klindt-Jensen is one of my all time favorites. It is a real treasure.

Talbot

I still do most of my work cold because I like to hold th epiece in my hand and control it carefully. However, when i need to move a lot of metal in a dramatic way there is nothing like hot work. In Wulfe's case we were turning a standard, straight-sided, bascinet into a more Veste Coburg like mosqu...

Talbot

since this thread seems to have died down. Let me make my summary. There is a period (1100-1500) in which truly celtic art is extremely rare for decoration of personal items. This post have bean read over 1200 times as of today and all we have to show for it is a few scabbards and a bag. Celtic knot...

Talbot

I've also been making the same helm for Duke Edmund (middle Kingdom, SCA) It is interesting that we both chose to make the back the same as the front. IN the original there is simply lattice work going all the way from the side band to the ridge band in the rear. I think the solid plate will help it...

Talbot

as long as Finer is OK with it I'd love a copy

Talbot

These are lovely examples that illustrate my point exactly. These are all appropriate to time and place. All of them are knotwork. none of them are Celtic. They are lacking in the asymmetry sometimes found in Celtic art. They do not have the distinctive Ã¢â‚¬Å“Celtic cornersÃ¢â‚¬Â

Talbot

It is available singly for $5.00 as a download or for $6.00 plus shipping for one I print for you.

Doug

Talbot

I also have a bunch of armour making books, CDs DVDs and visoes on my site
http://talbotsfineaccessories.com

Talbot

Meaddrinker,

Learning is what this board is about.

Talbot

Upon the occasion of my knighting I sat a vigil. As part of that vigil I prayed. I am an active practicing Methodist. Shortly before the actual knighting ceremony a friend, who happens to be a Methodist minster, led a brief service including the blessing of me, my armour and my sword. This was by no...

Talbot

That one is surprising. I think it is very similar to Celtic art. No beasties but that is not a requiremet for Celtic art. I'd put that on the list.

What else can we find?

Talbot

Flittie
Now we're talking. It looks like you may have found a couple of more examples. When you have a chance could you check the dates? Perhaps you could post a picture.

Talbot

Bravo Tim!
Both on the work and on showing people how it was done!

Way to go!

Talbot

Welcome to the archive!

Talbot

Trevor wrote:But dammit! If no one tells people these things, then they'll never know.

That is my purpose here.

Talbot

I think that in general, after the Bastard invades England, spangens will be right out. Before that actually, for new production, but there would be a few surviving pieces still in use on occasion. There are a couple of surviving spangenhelms outside of England that purport to have dates later than...

Talbot

So then spangens were most likly never etched? Technically speaking "Merovingian" spangenhelms were decorated with punch work and repousee but not etching. Alcyoneus is right. Etching on armour is really a 16th century thing with roots in the late 15th century. All surviving 14th century borders we...

Talbot

broinnfinn wrote:
Just to correct a misconception apparently more common than I realized:

I am a she.

Oops! I AM SO SORRY!

Please accept my appology.

Talbot

Talbot, could you show me an example of art that COULD be used on the bands of a spangen? Thanks SO again I ask? Although most Spangenhelms are out of the range of this post here is a nice reproduction of a decorated one. [img]http://www.gotscha.nl/uk-spangenhelm.htm[/img] http://www.gotscha.nl/uk-...

Talbot

But since I don't know how much each pattern must conform to some knotwork in said book in order to count, it's kind of hard to answer. Interlace/knotwork is all over Europe... Scotland, Ireland, Scandinavia, Hungary, Bulgaria.... and if my memory serves, not all of his examples originated in Irela...

Talbot

broinnfinn's post is a really great example of what I am talking about. He cited several excellent examples from before the 12th centruy and and then one from the 12th century and then the list jumps to the 16th century. I think this would be typical of our list if we were able to cite every single ...

Talbot

Off the top, there were knife scabbards found in the Wood Quay in Dublin (I think presently in the National Museum) and the book satchel for the Book of Ardah (sp). This took no time at all as those are fairly known examples. There is an ongoing discussion of where the knot work "originated." I wou...

Talbot

Be that as it may, yes, I agree with you, Talbot. The art of one time and place should not be use to decorate the objects of another time and place in the context of historicial recreation. In mundane life I have various articles of clothing with knotwork on it because I like the art. Mord. Mord, Y...

Talbot

Alcyoneus: The pieces you sited are all good examples of inerlace patterns. As I said above, interlace patterns are absolutely appropriate for many times and places. My point is we should not be seeing this on our personal possessions except possibly in rare circumstances. http://www.sunnyway.com/ru...

Talbot

We got a bit off topic here. Why doesn't someone split this off into another topic with a title something like "What are the dates of the middle ages" or something. I knew I 'd get some people riled up but I never thought it would be about the dates. As to the dates--my bad. Now lets get back to the...

Talbot

Now that I have your attention with that inflammatory message title I hope you will read this post. This is an off-shoot of an thread entitled Cool Site. ( http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=40273&highlight=cool+site ) one of the things that was stated is that there is a Morion i...

Talbot

That was a whole bunch of fun! I learned quite a bit by seing Roberto's work. I also learned some very surprising things about forming leather. I am ready to go try to make some now. I want to say a special thanks to Dan Houchins and Duane Wilkey for driving so far to present their classes. they wer...

Talbot

Anjouleme wrote:Guess which one is me. . .

Anjouleme, Is that Semjaka in the middle?

Does anyone know Dan Peterson (Roman reenactor)

Celtic Art is not Period!