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by Owen
Wed Jul 03, 2002 1:21 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: More eBay fun-legal even!
Replies: 25
Views: 10

More eBay fun-legal even!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1746255504

Ni!

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:37 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Bascinets from India?
Replies: 15
Views: 9

They do good work, once they understand what you want.

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Wed Jul 03, 2002 9:46 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Bascinets from India?
Replies: 15
Views: 9

We've been getting better and better equipment from India for Roman reenacting, the trick is indeeed getting them to do what we want. The question really is, since this could allow/force custom armorors to stop making munition/basic stuff and concentrate on true custom, is that a good or bad thing? ...
by Owen
Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:54 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Why isn't that self evident? </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Because I disagree with it, of course. It isn't a "loophole"; they very specifically stated that we can pretty much do what we want, as long as...
by Owen
Wed Jul 03, 2002 6:15 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

SyrRhys- it that I don't want to do a period that has comprehensive armor, it's that I want to do one that doesn't. There's a subtle difference. Of course, you don't want me doing that period anyway, so I guess it's a moot point. ------------------ Owen "Death is but a doorway- Here, let me hold tha...
by Owen
Tue Jul 02, 2002 8:41 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

Marshal- "Problem" might not be the right word. "Annoyance" fits the way I feel about them better. I don't think that I'm "settling" by choosing to do things the way I do. A better descriptive for "those who are never satisfied" is "those who are unwilling to see anyone else's point of view", in thi...
by Owen
Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:55 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">That would be great!!! May I suggest the name "Medieval Theme Party Club" for your new group? </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That's what we are now, what's the problem? http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/b...
by Owen
Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:54 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

StudBuckle- the Greeks had a type of armor known as a "linothorax", made from multiple layers of linen glued together. Check out http://www.larp.com/legioxx/ , Quintus has a page on it in there somewhere. His is made from (IIRC) 18 layers, and feels like cloth-covered plastic! That, plus greaves and...
by Owen
Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:57 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

Marshal (and others)- I don't think my portrayal is perfect. I also don't think it ever will be perfect. I learn more all the time, and keep working on it. Check out my armor pics over on the Armor board. Does it look like I don't care about authenticity? How often, when the perennial "How to make t...
by Owen
Mon Jul 01, 2002 6:49 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

SyrRhys- but I don't pretend, I do believe it. Of course, some of those opinions are wrong (that's my opinion of yours, for instance), but are still valid. And I don't imply that inclusivity is better, I say it. I think it is. Oh, and I was refering to non-SCAdians who think the SCA should be like t...
by Owen
Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:09 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

The REAL problem with the SCA is that so many people want it to be more like their particular group.

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:08 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

And thus we come back to the old arguement yet again, live steel vs. simulated weapons. With simulated weapons, you can do things safely that you absolutly cannot with steel, but it is very difficult at the least to get them to handle exactly like the real thing. ------------------ Owen "Death is bu...
by Owen
Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:02 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Wrap shot
Replies: 76
Views: 118

Could someone explain for a non-fencer what the difference between a "false edge cut" and a SCA-style wrap shot is? I don't have the books you all are discussing, and I'm curious. Also, wouldn't a "true-edge falling under the sword" cut hit the front or side of the leg, not the back, as implied by t...
by Owen
Mon Jul 01, 2002 9:21 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

Noone is stopping anyone else from doing a better jo. In most cases, I think it is more likely to be encouraged than anything else. Frankly, the SCA has improved so much over the last 20 years, especially on the field, mostly due to people wanting to do more. I keep seeing people complaining about t...
by Owen
Mon Jul 01, 2002 7:36 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

Unfortunately, Cap'n Markland weapons generally behave even less like the real thing than SCAdian ones do, especially swords. Some combination of the two sytems, with other changes might work, but I can see a raft of new problems, such as the rules lawyers argueing about what "plate" should be, etc....
by Owen
Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:47 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
Replies: 110
Views: 118

Chef- it is reasonable that many or even most of the complainers are in the SCA; we have so many participants, and most of the ones outside who might complain don't care enough about a group they aren't part of. I like your analogy. Continueing with it- golf is a fine sport. So is croquet. I don't w...
by Owen
Sun Jun 30, 2002 1:06 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Roman armour question
Replies: 5
Views: 18

Well, we do know the Romans used musculata earlier (and have examples), but have only the sculptural evidence for later. These sculptures show soldiers of all classes wearing it, which simply isn't justified by the lack of extant examples (if it were THAT common, we surely would have found some). Ye...
by Owen
Sun Jun 30, 2002 12:21 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: War stories.
Replies: 20
Views: 19

Yeah, it's very gratifying having my best war story NOT end, "And then I died..." Image

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Sun Jun 30, 2002 9:06 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: War stories.
Replies: 20
Views: 19

Present tense of "No shit, there I was " is "Oh shit, there they are!" At Pennsic 16, I was fighting in a small unit in the feild battle, about 5 guys, led by the man I was squired to at the time, Baron Sir Garanhir of Ness. We got put at the point of a larger group, and charged the midrealm line. W...
by Owen
Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:02 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Roman armour question
Replies: 5
Views: 18

Nope. Of course, the only evidence for Roman use of musculata during the Empire is sculptural, no actual pieces have ever been found from that time, leather or metal. For all we know, it might have been an artistic convention, like all those busts and statues of our Founding Fathers wearing togas. F...
by Owen
Sat Jun 29, 2002 6:52 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Worst Fighting Injuries
Replies: 83
Views: 66

Personal- several sprained ankles, several broken fingers, and a concussion. Worst I've ever witnessed, both bones in a friend's forearm got broken, requiring multiple surgeries to repair. Wear vambraces! I was under that pileup at the Pennsic XXIV castle battle, I got the back of my knee punctured ...
by Owen
Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:29 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Improving the look of the SCA
Replies: 89
Views: 762

I've never claimed that period shoes don't work. I said that since I KNOW the modern combat boots work, I'll continue to use them to fight in. I have no desire to risk my ankle experimenting. SyrRhys- but I don't want to do later period right now, so I'll make the compromises I need to to make it wo...
by Owen
Fri Jun 28, 2002 6:18 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Improving the look of the SCA
Replies: 89
Views: 762

Tim- ok, yes, I am trying hard to stay within the 1st century, for a number of reasons that aren't really important, except that it's what I want to do. There is a lot more domumentation than you would think for the time, but most of it is sculptural, rather than written down, and must be taken with...
by Owen
Fri Jun 28, 2002 6:07 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: gauntlet
Replies: 8
Views: 11

Any pics of the thumb?

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Fri Jun 28, 2002 6:06 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: My Armor
Replies: 14
Views: 24

I portray a Centurion, so the greaves are appropriate. I had forgotten to bring my crest when the pics were taken, it is made with leather and horsehair, and mounts transverse (ear to ear!). They did wear trousers (brachae) in cooler weather, and I'm uncomfortable fighting bare-legged. They also hid...
by Owen
Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:16 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: My Armor
Replies: 14
Views: 24

Dmitriy- there are list-legal knees under the pants.

Joaquin- funny thing is, the phalarae and belt plaques are Pennsic tags!

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:02 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: My Armor
Replies: 14
Views: 24

ok, that's got it!

typical dungeon bunny, eh?

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Thu Jun 27, 2002 4:54 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: My Armor
Replies: 14
Views: 24

ok, why didn't that work?

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Thu Jun 27, 2002 4:52 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: My Armor
Replies: 14
Views: 24

My Armor

Finally got the pics posted, hope this works. [img]http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_248824/Owen+Armor/Owen2.jpg?bcU.uH9AN1nxzo3C[/img] [img]http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_248824/Owen+Armor/Owen3.jpg?bcU.uH9AWb4QCQ8q[/img] [img]http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_248824/Owen+Armor/owen5.jpg?bcU.uH9...
by Owen
Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:54 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Wrap shot
Replies: 76
Views: 118

but isn't 15473 far after period? Image

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:53 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Improving the look of the SCA
Replies: 89
Views: 762

Tim- what refusal to compromise? I'm trying very hard to improve my appearance. I'm trying to hide the modern equipment that I need or choose to wear, in order to do so. I go armor shopping at every event I go to, and maybe one day I'll find a pair of gauntlets I like better. But guess what? I'll ha...
by Owen
Wed Jun 26, 2002 8:28 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Yikes! Check this out!!!
Replies: 52
Views: 51

Jagatai-bare breasts. Very nice bare breasts, but they shouldn't have been in the open area. They belong in the Adult section, or at House Kaffa's party at Pennsic. ------------------ Owen "Death is but a doorway- Here, let me hold that for you" [This message has been edited by Owen (edited 06-26-20...
by Owen
Wed Jun 26, 2002 8:20 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Improving the look of the SCA
Replies: 89
Views: 762

Flonzy-If I wanted "what's easy", why am I wearing mail? If I don't care how I look, why am I going to all the trouble I am? All I know is, the combat boots work for me. I don't like, or really need, a hard brace, just the elastic and the boots. As for "allowing" them, well, yeah, we should allow th...
by Owen
Wed Jun 26, 2002 8:10 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Rewritten history of Medieval north America
Replies: 14
Views: 15

Have they found the Roman settlements near where New Orleans is now? Hey, how else do you explain Mardi Gras?

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"
by Owen
Wed Jun 26, 2002 8:07 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Improving the look of the SCA
Replies: 89
Views: 762

watch out, Tim, that sounds AWFULLY like "If they had it..."

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Owen
"Death is but a doorway-
Here, let me hold that for you"