The Armour Archive

Vermin

Well, we should all just go f*ck ourselves then? That's the gist of it, right? Ah, but when I say that about CA, I'm the bad guy..... (grin) "The use of approved projectile weapons for melee, war, or combat archery* shall conform to the appropriate Society and Kingdom Conventions of Combat." And it ...

Vermin

It's called "nipping it in the bud", Hush. (or, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure", your choice....) Before someone's head gets filled with all of the "archery-the super weapon on the middle ages" crap that the SCA excretes, sometimes they can be saved through timely intervention. You...

Vermin

Everyone says this argument does no good.

Sure it does.

Look, one less combat archer-

"And actually, I got discouraged from archery when I started reading the anti-archery postings here."

\m/ YES!!! \m/

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Vermin

"My point is that too many heavies think archery is easy. It's not easy, and in it's own way, it's dangerous." Yeah, right...... The learning curve/skill between the two is drastic it's laughable to even compare the two. Let's see, within 1 week of starting (probably a lot less, but we'll use that j...

Vermin

But what I'M getting at is- There was a drawback to using a crossbow. To get the increased performance and penetration you suffered on the reload time. Was it common for the average medieval crossbow user to just go "bling, bling, bling" and fire off 5-6 shots a minute? I see that in the SCA. Someon...

Vermin

Then have the biggest, meanest haute-pieces (pike guards) you can manage!
They're not frowned upon in the SCA rulewise....., it's just that they are seen as "velcro" to a stick.

I have my doubts about that......

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Vermin

"But if only 10-20% have complete armour, then the effectiveness of bow and arrow is significant." Good point, actually.... I counter with- We ARE the 10-20% with the complete armor, WE'RE NOBLES. I don't wanna play at being a peasant just because someone ELSE wants to lob sticks at other people! Or...

Vermin

Actually, T-Bob, I wasn't being sarcastic.
I honestly WAS thanking you for backing up your view with some relevant info......I guess it just came across badly.

My sincere appologies if you thought I was being an ass towards you.

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Vermin

No prob, Chef.....I agree 100%, ya gotta take the good with the bad. (grin) But if your account is valid, that's ONE account FOR the penetration aspects of archery vs defence. Hardly what we'd call "overwhelming evidence" of a super-weapon, right? Especially when weighed against the documentable tim...

Vermin

"shot under the armpit with an arrow that hit a weak spot of his hauberk. " Right, T-Bob.....how many times have YOU been shot in the armpit? Would you consider this a common occurance? Every instance I've seen so far (and truth be told, there are pretty damned FEW instances) of arrows defeating arm...

Vermin

"While a vendetta and blowing up at the archer might sound like a good idea at the time, all it leads to is more bad feelings on the field." Well, I guess you're being a sport then.... I, however, have NO problem with more bad feelings towards archers. None at all. They're legally allowed to partici...

Vermin

I seem to recall some reference to someone doing that when their mentor (knight) died....

Was it in Parcivel?....

No coffee yet....

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Vermin

"ours would be a Fop-Gun, and yours an Ally-Gun"

(grin)

I never considered archers to be allies......
More like inconveniences to be dealt with on the field of honor.

But that's just how *I* see it.

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Vermin

"Greetings. I'm a member of the Newbridge Encampment, and of the Fellowship of the Oaken Blades, the lunatics who built the first RBG cannon for Pennsic XXX," Actually- 30 was not the first year for a cannon on the field in a scenario at Pennsic. Confed fielded one during one of the battles followin...

Vermin

Yeah, that side shot does it for me too.....
The sweep from the back of the skull out towards the nape....smooooooth.....
Nicely done.

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Vermin

I handled some Italian export armor that had the buckles on the tassets done in that exact same way, though all of it was steel, not brass.

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Vermin

OK, here's a thought- Are the holes PERIOD? Or were they done later by owners wishing to show off their "antiques"? I know that museums in the 1800's (and earlier AND later) did a good many things that we just wouldn't do today. They very well COULD be holes for stringing the pieces up for display. ...

Vermin

Most definately so, but he was talking about ARMOR buckles.

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Vermin

I'm a hand grinder user.

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Vermin

I can't recall ever seeing anyone from the archive bitching about anything from him......
And we're pretty hard to please here!

(grin)

I'd buy from him, wouldn't even have to think about it.

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Vermin

Raibeart wrote-

"Hey those are pretty sweet. I like the way you did the thumbs."

Yeah, they DO look about bulletproof, don't they......

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Vermin

Originally posted by flonzy: Yeah Vermin didn't you know that marshals are all knowing and wise? Actually, it's repeated evidence to the contrary that made me post what I did. I also see no reason to retract anything I wrote........ (grin) VvS (Who doesn't hate ALL marshals, just the unreasonable on...

Vermin

I would think that they went TO the armorer, and got fitted, just like you'd go to a tailor.
If it's your life on the line, you don't mess around.

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Vermin

"But to say that every set of finger gauntlets ever made where safe, well, that just ain't so and I have seen some poorly designed ones to prove it." Oh, no doubt!!!! You'll get NO argument from me about that. I've seen some pretty dicey pairs myself. I just don't like "blanket" rules that affect ar...

Vermin

Whaaaaaaat????? "The idea of the greatsword is not one of speed and agility, that's what the S&B guys are for." As someone who has fought GS for over 10 years I find what you say to be absolutely not true. Speed and agility are what keep you alive when using a greatsword, in single and in melee. Wit...

Vermin

So Stoffel, you're saying that fit is everything in armor? Wow, who'd have thought THAT? (grin) Very good points, especially with the finger gaunts. They're not legal in Trimaris, you could have the safest ones in existence, but everywhere you go, all you'd hear is- "We don't allow them here." Why? ...

Vermin

"I'm your average 33 year old overweight computer programmer type guy who never got into sports or other physically demanding activities." Hey, you could end up being VERY surprised at where you're at, fighting skill-wise inside of a year. That description you wrote fits ALOT of the chiv I know! And...

Vermin

I've really got nothing against basket hilts. Mine are made by Master Wulfgar in Aethelmarc, and I love them. Yup, with a leather demi, they are wonderful. But I never SEE them when knights in late 1400's/early 1500's are depicted in period art. (I'm one of the few people who CAN actually use a bask...

Vermin

I just had some unbelievable gauntlets made by Sasuke and I'm doing what you suggest- I'm gonna try the "old school" approach and try a crossguard and pommel. But I don't think I'll spend $100 to do it for fittings...... Mandrake has some NICE ones, and the sets run less than that. (And I've also go...

Vermin

Well done!

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Vermin

Sir Kief's movements on the ground border on the obscene........
I've told him that too....(grin)

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Vermin

That doesn't sound corny at all.

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Vermin

"Where I am torn is which approach to take. The Chivalry prize strategy is a vastly differently approach than the most wins/ fights route. It will become very obvious which you are trying for. The Most wins/most fights is definatly the higher renown strategy." A point to remember- There are some ama...

Vermin

Wow, Kyle pretty much covered it. He's serious about bringing your A game too. All my squire/huscarl bros and I went to one of Fast Eddies "squire" tourneys in NY a few years back..... Lots of fun and we ended up killing each other off towards the end because we all got pretty far. We went with an A...

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Adam, I'm BUMPING this.
I'll not let this sink into obscurity THAT quickly.
That is one cool hat.

VvS