The Armour Archive

Vermin

Matt's not kidding.
Aluminium dust just by itself is pretty nasty.

And don't breath the fumes.....

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Vermin

Aw...no shit....
That is by far the coolest looking SCA legal kettle hat I've ever seen.
Damn.
I love it when people floor me with work like that.
GREAT JOB!!!!!!!

Now, top it by doing that fluted Burgundian "ice cream cone" one in the Met!
In stainless.

You know you wanna.......

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Vermin

Steve, you should get flat brass maker's rings made, with your name, etc. stamped on them and put one in every piece you do.

Seriously.

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Vermin

Mother's Aluminium Mag Polish. the stuff guys use on their alum. wheels for their hotrods. Get it at any car parts store. Works on Alum, brass, copper, stainless (sorta)...... I cannot recommend it enough. It put's NevrDull to shame. I used scotchbrite to polish alum. Then white rouge on a cloth whe...

Vermin

Yup, later on, it's a masonic thing.
Every now and then they find buttons with that device while excavating the 1600-1700's Spanish missions here in Florida.

The device is to remind one of ones own mortality.

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Vermin

Quitter!

(grin)

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Vermin

Ok, I stand corrected....Like I said, I didn't remember.
thank you for setting me straight!

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Vermin

"SCA safty rules are to let ANYONE play. WMA takes real skill."

Ouch, you know, that IS a good point......
And they'll keep adding rules so more folks can play, even though it takes things farther and farther from reality..........anyone wanna argue that?

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Vermin

Well Vitus, when William the Marshall went out and grabbed those reins.......and took knights hostage.... Was he on a horse? If not, what WAS he doing there? I don't have the lit in front of me, and I cannot recall if it says he was on a horse himself...... If he wasn't, well.... Good enough for WtM...

Vermin

How much for one in stainless?

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Vermin

U.P.S. DIFFICULT?

Wow, what an understatement.

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Vermin

Yeah, leather works ALOT better, it's not as "slick" as synthetic material, so it doesn't work loose anywhere near as easily.
I've been using a leather strap and D ring arrangement for about 10 years.....

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Vermin

Hah, I'm in Trimaris now, I'm not even going to TRY to get something like that passed down here.

Now, I don't feel guilty hitting people that wear minimal armor with something like that, but I don't think the padboys would like it.......(grin)

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Vermin

We tried that in the East a few years back and got yelled at.....
So we tried it in Aethelmarc, they bitched too.
It was astounding, especially considering some of the pole weapons that exist in the East and are "safe" and "legal".

You guys are so lucky!
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Vermin

The bad thing about ear plugs- You MUST keep them VERY clean, and if you get the foam ones that you have to compress with your fingers prior to inserting, your fingers have to be clean. Which can be a pain in the ass if you have to take the plugs out in the middle of working on something. The muffs ...

Vermin

The Winchester shooting earmuffs are great.
I've got to look into getting another set, the generic ones aren't as good, nor as comfortable.

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Vermin

"Then look at First Knight. "
Uh, no....no thanks!

(grin)

I never would have thought that a movie with armor and Sean Connory could suck so badly, but there you have it.....
I was wrong.
So VEEEEEERRRRY wrong...

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Vermin

If you just want a hex barrel, get one from Dixie gun works.... Heck, you could probably get a rifle barrel, cut it in 2 or 3 pieces, have the ends milled/threaded for breechplugs, and have touchholes drilled...... You'd have enough barrels for projects to keep you busy ALL winter. (And if you're go...

Vermin

Well Vitus....how about an Italian "export" rig? Lots of nice glancing surfaces, and with a bellows faced sallet with bevor, it would look really spiff. Plus you'd get to use those cool looking, HUGE, left side, pinned on elbow rigs one NEVER sees on an SCA harness. Maybe some pinned on haught piece...

Vermin

"If you can't grip the quillions, it isn't part of the grip."

Yeah, Owen, but that's using LOGIC.
The rules for SCA weapons (and individual marshalls' interpretation of the rules!)don't always follow along those lines.
You know better than that!
(grin)

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Vermin

Haute guards ARE cool.
And like cool scars, the ladies dig 'em.

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Vermin

"The SCA Corpora is VERY vague on this: "The Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) is an international organization dedicated to researching and re-creating pre-17th-century European history" Well...... What's vague about that part? It means no indians, samurai, Bali tribesmen, madus, katanas.........

Vermin

I'm sorry, there was a knock on my door, and someone had left the A-hole ball on my doorstep.
I've got 3 or 4 of them already, but another won't hurt.

So I'm bumping this.....
(grin)

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Vermin

Which should reaffirm, to both of you, that FIT IS EVERYTHING!
(grin)

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Vermin

"Tell me, would you buy a car whose brakes were "probably at least somewhat effective" ? " That's half of the vehicles on the road in Florida man...... Dodged? No, it's a far cry from the "archers mowed down everything in their path and were the most awesome force on the battlefield, they were even ...

Vermin

Hey, I dunno...correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the guy on the ground in the second pic look like he's got some kind of quilted/padded leg defence to augment the maille?

Or is it just me?

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Vermin

WMW wrote-"SCA combat is, IMO, about Skill and the Romantic Chivalric Ideal"

I can agree with that.
Which is why I hate people standing 30 feet away lobbing sticks at me.
If we were playing laser tag, I wouldn't have a problem with it......but we're not playing laser tag are we?

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Vermin

www.therionarms.com

Hal's got 'em, but I dunno about composition and hardness.

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Wait, try THIS link-
http://www.therionarms.com/AAM/czh_bl019.html

[This message has been edited by Vermin (edited 10-30-2002).]

Vermin

Well, Steve, I'd sure like to see it go, but your compromise is perfectly acceptable to me.

My steel kit would actually HELP me rather than hinder me?
I'm all for THAT!

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Vermin

Agreed, but I have a personal interest in showing the population of the SCA that archery was NOT the "super weapon" most seem to think it was. Combat archery is a "magic bullet" fired at a distance, from people who have no wish to engage me in combat. It is grossly unfair in it's implementation, and...

Vermin

But shooting a longbow at maille tells us nothing...... For it to mean anything, the weapons have to match the armor of the time. An 5.56 round will go through Maximillian plate. So what? the two never met on the field. See what I'm saying? Mary Rose based weapons from the 1500's against armor of th...

Vermin

Richard, if the arrow doesn't penetrate, it really doesn't matter how many arrows are used.

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Vermin

Gotta agree there Russ, open face helm vs archery are a no win situation. And as far as-"I pity you SCA guys having to try to come up with a coherent and logical set of rules based on such an appallingly contradictory set of historical information." Quite possibly the understatement of the year! Log...

Vermin

Gavin wrote-"Trying to tell these people "well, yes, you can come out on the field and shoot at people, but none of them have to fall down if you hit them" wouldn't go over very well." Hey it's no worse than the following examples of really piss poor implementation of combat archery in the SCA (so m...

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Ah, but then we come to the same problem- Every other academic organization plays by the same rules....except the SCA. For some reason, folks in the SCA think the SCA gets special privledges. You don't have to prove something happened in the SCA, you have to prove it DIDN'T. So, since the Chinese ha...