The Armour Archive

Count Johnathan

I'm all for moving on, but I do have to say this is far from our first "discussion". You might not remember me but we've met online plenty of times. My skepticism of the reports of increased cheating under three telling blows comes from every case I've witnessed running contrary to that. ...

Count Johnathan

Francisco Lopez de Leon wrote:For clarity, by "flying twigs", do you mean archery, milord?

We don't have to go there you know. I have a negative opinion about it and it doesn't serve to make this conversation any better.

Count Johnathan

I apologize, it was only your father, not you that used the "squire" title. In any event the sentiment seemed the same to me, perhaps I shouldn't have lumped you together. There's no option to put an accent on the "e" at the end of resume' but I figure you know what I meant. To ...

Count Johnathan

Perhaps some wanted to be rebels but the game itself was so that people could dress up as knights and fight for the honor of their ladies. It was so that people could involve themselves in a world of victorian honor and chivalry if only for a day to escape the sorrow of the modern world. I'm not sur...

Count Johnathan

Round and round we go! It will catch on, or it won't. Or it will for some, and not for others, and there will more more "alternate ruleset" tourneys. *shrug* I fail to see why people wishing to see change (for the better in their eyes) constantly are met by "Don't like it? go away an...

Count Johnathan

Broadway wrote:
Count Johnathan wrote:"...We take a more serious approach today and it no longer serves us as well..."

You mean YOU your grace. The rest of US are ok with it.

You mean YOU your Excellency. Some of the rest of US, don't agree.

Oh goodyou understand my point then.

Count Johnathan

You never cease to entertain. I have by no means "lost my taste for SCA fighting". I have been a reformer all my life. One must love our game enough to bother. I honestly think the "experiences" of telling blows are a lot of hearsay and supposition. Every time I've been there an...

Count Johnathan

"...We take a more serious approach today and it no longer serves us as well..." You mean YOU your grace. The rest of US are ok with it. I am sorry but I know through these boards that you have delved into many various forms and methods of fighting. Like others who at this point seem to ha...

Count Johnathan

So those that are against it, are you saying that you'd tell Francisco if he won Crown to go fuck his self because you don't agree with the rule he is implementing for his time as King? If so then what about the no thrusting that was being talked about in another thread, why is that any different? ...

Count Johnathan

My perfect combat system would be SCA rattan rules. Weapon standards would be a little different but not too much. The only change I would desire is that if some victory seeking a$$wipe knew in his heart that he should accept a blow he received but decided to shrug it off God would intervene and the...

Count Johnathan

Well damn why didn't you say so before? If your gonna disolve the BOD I'm in.

When do we start using these new rules?

Count Johnathan

Well as you say you are resolved no matter what so again good luck. The problem is that very few people in comparison to the numbers that are out there want to change and remove the options that most everybody else seems to be ok with. Why not go to a different ruleset? Because the one we have even ...

Count Johnathan

Violen wrote:So you guys dont want new people who have low incomes?

"Sir the peasants are revolting!"

"Yes they are, that's why we call them peasants."

Count Johnathan

That's exactly what I'm saying and why I'm asking HE to flat-snap my helm, as I stand flat-footed, with one of my rebated weapons. I'll do it. When you wake up we can discuss this some more. Edit to add : Ok strike that. I suggest not doing such a test! There are a couple of problems with it anyway...

Count Johnathan

No that is not correct. Many times over many years many people have had serious injuries occur that ended their ability to continue fighting (at least for the duration of the bout) because they were struck on very real and often far superior modern sport armour with a simple taped up rattan stick. ...

Count Johnathan

Perhaps you need to hit harder. Maybe your problem is that you want the game to be light tag with no penalties. Sorry I don't buy it. If I swing a steel sword at you as hard as I do with rattan you would go down hard. Technique is important. My technique is to kill you if I were using steel. The fa...

Count Johnathan

correction to post added Yeah and those asshats are asshats becouse they fool nobody... People who do that will have minimum glory Yet they persue it and there is no way to eliminate their presence otherwise the SCA would be the utopia we seek. A counted blows system would further their cause and e...

Count Johnathan

Perhaps you need to hit harder. Maybe your problem is that you want the game to be light tag with no penalties. Sorry I don't buy it. If I swing a steel sword at you as hard as I do with rattan you would go down hard. Technique is important. My technique is to kill you if I were using steel. The fac...

Count Johnathan

What idiot would not try to block a smoking great sword shot to the leg or arm? If you're willing to take that blast like that just to win a fight enjoy the huge assed burse... Your phrase is a bit muddled but I think I understand your statement. Forgive me if my reply does not fit what you mean......

Count Johnathan

"WE CANNOT SANELY STRIKE EACHOTHER WITH SUFFICIENT FORCE TO DEFEAT ARMOUR WITH AN EDGED WEAPON USING RATTAN." I beg to differ. We have been for decades. What have you been doing? "..."defeating armour to incapacitate" aspect of the game is a fallacy..." No that is not c...

Count Johnathan

I'm OK with the aggressive defense of his proposed position and like you Ingvarr I too applaud the effort to make things "better". I had intended to not post anymore but honestly I have really enjoyed the mostly civil discussion. Disagreement is OK. I think several points have been brought...

Count Johnathan

"2) If an opponent is unable to take a knee after being struck due to injury or otherwise then he loses the fight..." "...Which means that a guy without a bum knee will ALWAYS have an advantage over the guy without.. regardless of skill-at-arms, which should, IMO, be the final arbite...

Count Johnathan

Gotta love the "A" kingdoms.

Count Johnathan

Sounds like others echo my own thoughts about it. Frankly if you would improve your blocking to a point that you rarely if ever got struck in the leg then you would not have issue with fighting from your knees because you would never feel obligated to do so. Saying that this is not the main problem ...

Count Johnathan

Older than me. It's certainly older than any new version would be.

Count Johnathan

So because some people have gotten good at fighting from their knees... I don't even know how to finish that. Sorry the logic of your statement escapes me. Do you not think that giving your leg up as an easy open target since it requires two blows to trade a head shot kind of makes the point of shoo...

Count Johnathan

"...some of us insist, ever, on striving a little further..." Strive harder, get better at blocking your legs. Eliminate knee fighting as a personal issue for you through self improvement. That is the point of a penalty. It should motivate you to improve yourself not to try to change the r...

Count Johnathan

Hey now CA totally blows and when it's used I have no option other than to not fight. that sucks. different issue. grumble grumble etc....

Thank you. I was waiting for that.

Count Johnathan

It is though which is kind of the point. Rugby and American football both use an odd shaped ball, involve tackling and scoring based on getting the ball to the other side yet they are completely different games. Both are great, both are loved but they are seperate. Rules make the game. This game is ...

Count Johnathan

If the King wills it, it shall be so. I do not gainsay the word of his Majesty, that my days may be long in the lands the Gods have given us. Pray to your gods that He does not, in His infinite and glorious wisdom, forbid the use of all but a herring and a shrubbery.... for those who cannot refuse ...

Count Johnathan

Yes fun the common goal and the tie that binds. I agree. As far as knee injuries or damage is concerned I think the argument against knee fighting should not include injuring your knees though. I have seen many very serious knee injuries occur to fighters who were standing. I've seen a LOT of knee ...

Count Johnathan

Yes fun the common goal and the tie that binds. I agree. As far as knee injuries or damage is concerned I think the argument against knee fighting should not include injuring your knees though. I have seen many very serious knee injuries occur to fighters who were standing. I've seen a LOT of knee i...

Count Johnathan

good lord those all suck huge donkey ass! and yeah, compared to them no thrusting is nothing at all. i dont get how restricting someone is supposed to prove prowess. i mean, i wouldnt ever want to fight someone in any way other than their best. of course when ive been critizied by others who claim ...

Count Johnathan

This kind-of goes back to "are we recreating a tourney as closely as possible, recreating a duel as closely as possible, or just flat out making a modern sport in armour and history be damned?" debate. Knowing what we're trying to acheive would help us to decide how to go about it. We are...

Count Johnathan

our crown just decreed that no thrusting tips will be allowed in any tourneys during their reign (excpet for spear tourneys). I worked very hard to incorporate thrusting as part of my game, and it really sucks not to be able to fight in any kingdom tourneys because the crown is disallowing them. I ...

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