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by Count Johnathan
Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:47 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

"...a cheat will cheat no matter what the system..." That is very correct however the past experiences have shown that the level of ignoring blows does go up using a counted blows system. Now 2 people with long term experience have told you this yet you disregard it. They tell you not thro...
by Count Johnathan
Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:15 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

We use counted blows. To keep it simple we need only to count to 1. 8)
by Count Johnathan
Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:08 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

I would suggest giving a little respect to those who built this game for you to play. Appeal to emotion. You act as though the people who started this and worked for many years through trial and error were stupid. Straw man with a dash of ad hominem. If the system were so stupid that it did not fun...
by Count Johnathan
Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:51 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: TESTING THE VITUS SYSTEM
Replies: 105
Views: 3685

And what was the point of that? Merely because I have respect for the efforts of our predecessors in this game you insult me. It's pretty stupid and narrow minded to believe that any person here would be the first person to come up with or try such simple rules of combat. It's been done and it did n...
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:05 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: TESTING THE VITUS SYSTEM
Replies: 105
Views: 3685

Count Jonathan, please forgive me but I grow weary of repeating this. We intend to buck the system. Hard. That's already a foregone conclusion. We think knee-fighting's broken and will do, within reason, what we can to give what we believe to be a superior system its day in the sun. I appreciate yo...
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

Supporters of knee fighting have yet to give one reason why knee fighting is positive that is not 'Because we always have.' I'm fond of nostalgia - overly, at times - so I'm not dismissing this out of hand, but when that's the best you can muster, perhaps some investigation of the situation is need...
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: TESTING THE VITUS SYSTEM
Replies: 105
Views: 3685

Like I said be pro active about it. No need to step on toes or buck the system in such a way. I caution it could possibly be seen as a disruption and cause confusion rather than to be a pleasant experience promoting what you feel is a good system. Better results would come from holding a tourney rat...
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:35 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: TESTING THE VITUS SYSTEM
Replies: 105
Views: 3685

That again is a fine idea and I feel you or others should sponsor tourneys and events that follow such rules. My only suggestion is not to dwell on or mention the perceived negatives of the current conventions but rather to actively and excitedly promote what you feel is a good system. You know, to ...
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:19 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

That is a fine idea! I say pro actively persue it and sponsor a tourney with the rules of your choice.

:D
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:53 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Calling all Viking types.
Replies: 15
Views: 575

How about "Oh shit the vikings are coming" :wink:
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:48 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

8)
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:09 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

But that is the entire point. No change is required. Perhaps some additional education for some who are unaware of their options but the rules already allow you to avoid fighting from your knees ever for any reason. You even have the option of requesting counted leg blows so that you get more than o...
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:15 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

Just my direct opinion here not in reply to any specific person. What it sounds like is that those who are bothered by fighting from their knees should not be complaining about it or seeking to change the rules or conventions of combat. I think that the people who are bothered by knee fighting shoul...
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:51 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

What Iain said...and Bryce. See? There are guys with f'ed up knees all OVER the place. Knee fighting must go!!! This is exactly my problem- WHY SHOULD GUYS WITH F'ED UP KNEES NEVER GET KNIGHTED JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN'T KNEE FIGHT ANYMORE???? This this doesn't happen? Hahahahah! Think again. Another ...
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:44 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

Personally I love the idea of no knee fighting, my wife and I got married a few years ago, and at the first practice she attended she remarked how silly the fighting from the knees looks. I dropped out of the SCA for awhile for many reasons, one being that I had a nasty MRSA staff infection in my k...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:28 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

However, at least from some(chiv) that I've spoken to, taking legs as kills is "not how the game is played" and would greatly hurt such a person's chance of elevation- which makes me sad- I am glad that not all think that way. Personally, anyone electing to do that would get my support in...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:56 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

Traditions make us who we are. They give us our identity and seperate us from the rest of the wad. Having the option has always been the way and it has always worked. If it isn't broken don't fix it. Would you support the Knighting of a person who chose not to fight from their knees because they fo...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:29 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

Count Jonathan: Nobody is talking about storming the BOD and demanding that they change the rules. I'm suggesting that those of us who despise this ridiculous and antiquated aspect of our game simply be more proactive in bringing hte other OPTIONS into the limelight. Helping newbies to UNDERSTAND t...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:20 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

Count Jonathan - do you have anything to do add in favor of knee fighting other than"we've always done it that way" and "don't harsh other people's mellow man", the twin hydras that anyone wishing to improve things in the Society must ultimately face? I apologize if the above so...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:03 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

Having the option is the way we do things Francisco. If you don't like it don't do it. If you do then do. Please don't attempt to change the game I love because you don't want new people to be told how we have been functioning for over 40 years or because you care about what the other re-enactment g...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:19 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

Armor got better because folks were getting knocked out or injured. We learned. Fighting from your knees is different. You have always had the option of doing it or not. It doesn't suck to have the option. I don't see your point and you seem to have missed mine completely. You want to eliminate othe...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:57 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

This game we have been playing for over 40 years doesn't cater to my every desire. Could we change it please? Come on guys give me a break. This is a silly debate. You have options and can still participate either way. Use them or don't it's your choice. If you want to be dead from a leg shot that's...
by Count Johnathan
Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:17 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: On Your Knees!
Replies: 354
Views: 5979

It is not a positive dimension. It is a penalty for crappy defense. Don't want to be on your knees? Block better.
by Count Johnathan
Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:07 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Pictures of Pels
Replies: 30
Views: 1283

To add more weight you could allways fill the bottom with cement. That might stop it from moving a bit. Edward If I stake it down it won't wobble as much if at all. I've just been lazy about it. I am very pleased with the results though. It's heavy enough that I can't knock it over with just one sh...
by Count Johnathan
Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:24 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Pictures of Pels
Replies: 30
Views: 1283

Normally I sink my pel into the ground a few feet but since I moved a few months ago I decided to try a mobile pel. I took a 4x4 a little less than 6 feet long and bolted it through a 5lb weight, a tire inflated still on rim and then poured concrete on top. I then wrapped it in several layers of car...
by Count Johnathan
Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:36 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: I want to learn more about Polypropylene swords!
Replies: 603
Views: 18986

Some folks do alright. Yeah my thought as well. A fibrous synthetic material that mimics the density of rattan only hopefully a hell of a lot more durable. If it is going to be found or created most likely it will happen through the efforts of folks on this site. It's great to see different material...
by Count Johnathan
Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:30 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Show us your best lookng SCA weapons
Replies: 689
Views: 67590

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:You asked for it, your excellency...you asked for it.


I like to make people challenge themselves. :wink:
by Count Johnathan
Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:48 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Show us your best lookng SCA weapons
Replies: 689
Views: 67590

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:Hahahahaha! I win!


Very nice. I like the Axe but I see no definitive victory with this entrance. Methinks you can do even better sir. :wink:
by Count Johnathan
Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:20 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Completed Medusa Shield, with picture attached
Replies: 4
Views: 507

Nice work! Well done!
by Count Johnathan
Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:39 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: I want to learn more about Polypropylene swords!
Replies: 603
Views: 18986

I was kind of thinking along those lines but not so much just to keep pieces from flying off but more like hundreds if not thousands of tiny nylon threads running throughout the length of the material possibly giving it more compression ability and maybe increasing it's durability. There must be som...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:55 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Have you ever seen someone get knocked out
Replies: 128
Views: 4026

I've seen many people get knocked out. Too many to count at this point. I have almost been knocked out plenty of times but not not entirely thus far. I have knocked a few out as well. In a game where people are hitting each other with sticks it's just something that happens sometimes. I don't think...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:49 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Have you ever seen someone get knocked out
Replies: 128
Views: 4026

I've seen many people get knocked out. Too many to count at this point. I have almost been knocked out plenty of times but not not entirely thus far. I have knocked a few out as well. In a game where people are hitting each other with sticks it's just something that happens sometimes. I don't think...
by Count Johnathan
Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:44 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Have you ever seen someone get knocked out
Replies: 128
Views: 4026

I've seen many people get knocked out. Too many to count at this point. I have almost been knocked out plenty of times but not not entirely thus far. I have knocked a few out as well. In a game where people are hitting each other with sticks it's just something that happens sometimes. I don't think ...
by Count Johnathan
Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:59 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: I want to learn more about Polypropylene swords!
Replies: 603
Views: 18986

Totally. I like that these tests, this kind of effort, and sharing of information is happening for this purpose.

Keep up with the testing till we find the best stuff to use if we aren't already. :D
by Count Johnathan
Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:38 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: I want to learn more about Polypropylene swords!
Replies: 603
Views: 18986

NO ONE IS TRYING TO GET RID OF RATTAN! Even if this matereal does get passed, until we are allowed to get formed ones I will keep using my shapped rattan swords for torneys and wars, they just look and feel better than round rods in my oppinion. Dude! I am totally aware of this and I think this is ...