The Armour Archive

Count Johnathan

How do you wear yours? Im really sick of a standard Jock Strap. Im quite a bit overweight but i am really really open to suggestions. As far as Kidney, im sick of my weight belt and when i get a gambeson im gonna build some plastic plate holders in the back. What solutions have you guys come up wit...

Count Johnathan

Well you don't thrust with both hands using a spear. One hand guides the pole and the other does the actual thrusting much like billiards. I think there is also a little bit of a clarity issue with this discussion. I think some people are making reference to a small round center grip type buckler w...

Count Johnathan

but as for the Rules for SCA combat they are based on chivalry and safety. so be it. i think you give the combat regs more credit than they are due. I am merely stating that it is the basis of their existance. I have never stated that they are perfect at the task. I would say that in light of safet...

Count Johnathan

A shield can still be used to make shield to weapon and shield to shield contact so it is not lost as an offensive tool. and shield to body contact as "safely placed", under IV.D.. , for our use at the Kingdom level. the only prohibition is against striking, which i maintain would be a si...

Count Johnathan

and Duke John Bearkiller florentine two hand thrusts you with his spear back to Drachenwald, did you have any less fun in your re-creation or recreation? I've noticed a lot lately an unfortunate tone that seems to be the SCA doesn't let us do this or that and that's no fun, or isn't historically ac...

Count Johnathan

Yes a spear thrust CAN be as bad but because the wrist will bend the force gets reduced the same can not be said for shovel handles or punch bucklers. So yes they are inherently less safe then a weapon in which the wrist is allowed to bend. Hence one of the reasons they were banned. This got me thi...

Count Johnathan

wow, that high horse is going to give you a nose bleed. i wasn't quoting directly. but your ongoing reactionary diatribe of "the sky is falling" attitude -reminds me- of the usual political tactic of "think of the children!". it's just tiresome. we just have a difference of opin...

Count Johnathan

Shield bashing would not add to either one of the basic principles that our rules are based upon. When you can explain how that sucks we might listen. Using your shield as a weapon is a valid medieval technique. It was used by knights (look at the poetry of Chretien) and in trials by combat (Talhof...

Count Johnathan

dang, you beat me to it.... i was going to say all i hear from Johno is "think of the children!". i've seen it before, but his is easily the worst representation of SCA-fundamentalism. So aside from what I just said in humor when did I express that smashing your friends teeth in with a sh...

Count Johnathan

Balin stop with that scientific nonsense.

force transfer etc.

It's bad for the children.

Count Johnathan

Shield bashing would not add to either one of the basic principles that our rules are based upon.

When you can explain how that sucks we might listen.

Count Johnathan

It's fine to question things Sean but to question rules that are not causing an issue seems a waste of time that could be spent trying to improve other things like safety and chivalry. Shield bashing would not add to either one of those basic principles that our rules are based upon. If you want to ...

Count Johnathan

Really? Turning a shield bashing question thread into a CA debate? Geez I just mentioned it to prove a point but said it was another discussion. Start a new thread and we can debate CA until the sun burns out. Actually Johno you did use it. I merely said you want to remove things, you were the one ...

Count Johnathan

Really? Turning a shield bashing question thread into a CA debate? Geez I just mentioned it to prove a point but said it was another discussion.

Start a new thread and we can debate CA until the sun burns out.

Count Johnathan

Really? I think most of the CA rules suck. They need to be fixed but that's a different conversation. I think the issue is that I am usually one of the people that says something needs to be removed. It's my lack of wanting to incorporate more into the fighting that seems to set people off. It's no...

Count Johnathan

Really? I think most of the CA rules suck. They need to be fixed but that's a different conversation. I think the issue is that I am usually one of the people that says something needs to be removed. It's my lack of wanting to incorporate more into the fighting that seems to set people off. It's not...

Count Johnathan

All of it! Every single word of it! Trying to push the idea that the only reason he is against the rules is because he wasn't "consulted when the rules were put in place" That's ludicrous! You really are the type of person that cannot see the forest through the trees, aren't you? You cons...

Count Johnathan

What a read on a Monday! I missed armored fencing practice on Sunday, but I probably would have wrecked the SCA some more by using my shield to move someone's basket or something anyway.... That's a stupid statement Leo. There is nothing wrong with doing that. Shield to weapon and shield to shield ...

Count Johnathan

Which part seems dense to you?

Go ahead. Don't hold back.

Count Johnathan

How would having some 300lb monster smashing your face with the edge of his 10lb shield in melee improve the sport for you? As brutal as it sometimes seems to be it's still a gentlemans sport. Seeing as how he's already doing it and at a full charge while he tries to break through my line I don't s...

Count Johnathan

How would having some 300lb monster smashing your face with the edge of his 10lb shield in melee improve the sport for you?

As brutal as it sometimes seems to be it's still a gentlemans sport.

Count Johnathan

Yeah get a haircut ya hippie! Or tuck in your shirt. I used to wear a high collared shirt and I would put my hair back in a pony tail, tuck it in the shirt, flip the collar up and button it. I also wore a backwards baseball cap to keep the rest of my hair in check. Then I started to lose my hair so ...

Count Johnathan

Wait a second. If a person was around to see the testing phase of a huge variety of different attemps to use a weapon safely as well as seeing numerous injuries from certain items how is it in any way blind faith to explain it as a witness? That is not correct. Sorry. Aside from this it is not faith...

Count Johnathan

So as not to put words in your mouth. Would you consider this a fair re-wording of your initial statement? So if you aren't allowed to do it remember, within the context of the SCA it was tried already and within the limited set of participants, equipment available, techniques employed and state of...

Count Johnathan

Well sorry you don't remember then. Operator error was more common with that weapon than some others. It's your method of questioning the ruling that I oppose. Well I don't remember them so it must be safe now blah. You're right Leo we all banded together and conspired to make rules that would both...

Count Johnathan

Because the safety wasn't the problem. They still allow waterbearing, they still promote it. They just removed themselves from liability. The SAFETY is no different after the ruling. The ONLY difference is in legal issues. Which legal issue was it? The SCA being responsible for illness? Yeah that's...

Count Johnathan

You make nice stuff Vitus. I like what you do brother.

Count Johnathan

MJBlazek wrote:Johno, I think it is flowery wording ffor the missive...
I DON"T think they Caid crown is calling CA unsafe.

I never suggested that they were. I said it's the difference in perspective regarding "War" vs "tourney" fighting.

Count Johnathan

Yeah my strapped heater is considered large and its 24 x 34. I think people at one time would have given me a lot of grief if it was 6 inches longer. Atenveldt has always been pretty laid back about shield size though.

Count Johnathan

Leo Medii wrote:Thank you for your honesty in your reply.

You're welcome. That's like a giant weight off my pathetic cowardly shoulders.

Count Johnathan

While it is illeagal to smash your opponent in the body with your shield it is legal to smash sheild to sheild. Also, while my opponent cannot hit me in the body with his shield, I do not believe there is any rule against me hitting him in the sheild with my body. At one point I was given 'a talkin...

Count Johnathan

That is my understanding as well. It isn't about safety, it is about lawsuits. It isn't any more dangerous for a 16 or 17 year old, but the chances of lawsuits are greater. Same with the waterbearing- If it were a safety issue, then they'd disallow it- but they didn't. Instead, they chose to make i...

Count Johnathan

Instead of writing this drivel you could have answered the question which is what I asked for. If I am wrong then show me don't expect me to accept your opinion on the subject without providing evidence of what you say. I don't get you your grace. Yep. And you stubbornly refuse to. It's ok though. ...

Count Johnathan

I understood why since I watched many people use them extremely effectively. It's pretty ugly in a violent sort of way. Am I understanding you correctly, punch bucklers were banned because they were to effective? As in safe, but too easy to win with? Too effective at it's purpose as a weapon. Peopl...

Count Johnathan

Child abuse and civil lawsuits. Alot of states in the East have rules that could see people losing their houses over a bruise caused in a fight between an adult and a minor. Which is why we have division 4 - youth rattan. To even train the Div 4 kids you have to be a certified Division 4 Youth Mars...

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