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Halvgrimr

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Kasimir: I spent a fair bit of time one morning last week and found the offerings on google somewhat limited and a bit repetitive. I had some success as I mentioned but there d...

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Two more things to add 1)as you can see here http://www.missouri.edu/~rls555/pubs_i_have.htm (this is in alph order but scroll down past the Z's) there are numerous other articles from a metric butt load of other pubs that contain article on the Vendel/Valsgarde stuff 2) regarding what AnnaT said ab...

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Garth: Kasimir, Here is a site with some good information: http://www.missouri.edu/~rls555/SCA/research/helms/V.htm He actually has a lot more than that page, browse around. Thanks for the mention Garth! Kas, Most of the good info has been shared with you, your ba...

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Me too Bascot. I did a little preliminary searching on the web and came up with these two pics of lavvus: http://foto.ravna.no/detail.asp?product_id=020108 http://foto.ravna.no/detail.asp?product_id=021720 these are traditional Saami summer tents, I cant say if they are the same style though. I also...

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In the past I had wondered if the ValsgÃ¤rde/Vendel graves were simple boat graves (ie a body in a boat with goods) or if they were similar to the Gokstad ship (ie a boat with the wooden 'tent' over the body and graves goods. As much of what I am researching is not available in English, its a slow p...

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by adamstjohn: Here's my attempt at a translation. Sorry, no dictionary handy. thanks Aethstan, now only 10+ more pages to go http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/wink.gif This is HORRID German, by the way. --I guess since some folks that speak/write English do so badly (guilty!...

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DOH!
I should have caught that.
Thanks Chef and Alcy.

I was so caught up in laughing I couldnt get passed it.

Halvgrimr
hoping Cheesman was a Vendel age superhero

[This message has been edited by Halvgrim (edited 08-26-2003).]

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Howdy all I fed the following (from the article 'EIN NEUER REKONSTRUKTIONSFORSCHLAG ZUM PANZERFUND VON VALSGARDE EIN BEITRAG ZUR FRÃœHMITTELALTERLICHEM SCHUTZBEWAFFNUNG' into an online translator: Gegen letztere richtete sich die Kritik. Dem Vorschlag KÃ¤semanns â€” gelegentlich eines Vertrags des V...

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Sorry guys I was swamped yesterday Everything I would have said has been covered http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/wink.gif Apparently Tweedle dropped the ball on researching the Kiev helm (the "Strong Helm" wasnt in circulation when he published the Coppergate book), I have even been told he used th...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Joaquin: What's the verdict on what the (Scandinavian?) raiders in Ireland in 1171 were wearing? Shirts of "laminis ferris" and all that? I had always taken that passage as con...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sergei: Ny BjÃ¶rn,thanks, that you have corrected me. Whether you can tell something interesting else about these plates? Whether there were only five kinds of the plates as...

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Howdy all In the past I had believed (due to a possible misinterpretation/misunderstanding of some info passed on to me by a VERY knowledgeable person, Hi NB!) that the Birka lamellar was Khazarian in origin, and when the subject came up I disseminated this information. This morning, on another list...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bob Hurley: No, sure didn't. I checked the email address in my profile, it's correct. Here it is anyway, grhurley@charter.net<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> --huh, how odd that...

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did you get my email Bob?

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Bob

I am contacting you privately about this

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I was going but then changed my mind due to the fact I heard you had to be a paying member to fight with steel so I backed out. Then Brodir had talked me back into going (he explaned the temp membership thing) again. But before I let the wife know my plans were back on she planned a trip to Georgia ...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Anders Helseth: In addition, in the Gjermundbu shirt (from sometime in the 900s, only shirt that can safely be called "viking"), <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> --though the g...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Padrig: I was wondering how many arrows are in a cheff or chief? Pad <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Depends on wheter or not Chef is in his armour I suppose http://www.armoura...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Evil_Merlin: Didn't they find that one of the older viking shirts that was recently discovered had copper rivets? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> --I will have to do some checkig but ...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: Viking era mail, from Erik D. Schmid's research, has distinctly different characteristics than the later German mail. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Bob Than...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> That line must be drawn by each individual. As a whole, I think the SCA would not see a problem with it, as you would be maintaining the "spirit" of the era, thoguh not exacting to your period. [/...

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First of all this post is in no way shape or form meant to slam Steve or Forth Armories! Since becoming a member of this board I have come to have immense amount of respect for both Steve and his work. Since Steve is the only one putting out this type of product, I have to use his product as my exam...

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one last thing from Gunnvor. Halvgrimr ------------------------------------ Halvgrimr asked: >> you are saying there is a difference >> between armour and the hide coats, right? Yes. In the accounts you quoted, ThÃ³rir hundr is wearing a type of garment, cloak, coat, or armor made of reindeer skin.....

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Magmaforge: great replies! Thank you! So, elkhide or reindeer hide shirts of a buff coat kind would be plausible (along with other creatures that could be hunted; seal, whal...

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Gunnvor also had this to say about the differences between armour and hide coats: Halvgrimr, I think these specific mentions of "reindeer armor" go along with the whole "magical shirt" folklore theme that's found all across Northern Europe. Dr. Ellis-Davidson discusses this some in: Ellis-Davidson, ...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Brodir: I then noticed you had already posted the saga excerpts to damn near every bulletin board and email list in existence. --hehehe, yeah i wanted to get that out a...

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just a reminder

as can be seen here
http://www.missouri.edu/~winsloww/archives/utensils/

"Viking Age" utensils are not limited to bone/horn

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ok so thats one Finnish reference and one Saami (some folks consider Lapp a derogatory word much like the N word) reference for those keeping count

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ok, one more reference from the same saga (Saga of Olaf Haraldson (St. Olaf) but Part VII): 204. OF THE LENDERMEN IN NORWAY. Now we must relate what, in the meantime, was going on in Norway. Thorer Hund, in these two winters (A.D. 1029-1030), had made a Lapland journey, and each winter had been a lo...

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ah ha, ive found the reference! and it does seem to be Finnish in origin after all. Heimskringla Saga of Olaf Haraldson (St. Olaf) Part VIII which can be found online at http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/OMACL/Heimskringla/ 240. KING OLAF'S FALL. On the one side of Kalf Arnason stood his two relations, Ol...

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ok now this is killing me all production at work has stopped in my area http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/wink.gif i am yahooing and googling away! I have found this reference and will be looking into it: OK, in _ Heimskringla _ St. Olafr is given 13 sets of reindeer hide armour, which are said to be...

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as I had a few minutes I did a very basic search of OLAF TRYGGVASON'S SAGA
(at http://www.gersey.org/heathenry/lore/heimskringla/olaf_tryggvason/english.html#38 )

I used the words

elk
reindeer
hide
armour

other that a few unrealted hits on armour I came up with nothing.

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Brodir

I too would be interested in this bit of information.

I am guilty of using the example but have no good idea where it comes from.

I would like to have this info so that I the next time I need it I can site the exact source.

Halvgrimr
I can look in that saga if you dotn get time

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by HugoFuchs: http://www.sca.org/ti/articles/1994/issue110/BlowCalib.html <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> --i am a little disturbed at the inclusion of the odd fellow on all four...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by mrks: there is NOTHING worse than active marshaling. it strips the fighter of any percieved honor when he is told a shot hit when he/she feels it didnt. <HR></BLO...

boat graves/tents

more for the German Speakers

Birka Lamellar update information

Where do you draw the line?