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- Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:43 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: PSA: Do you have your arming carpet?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1525
Re: PSA: Do you have your arming carpet?
Since a gentleman of CAROLINA acquired an arming carpet, boxes of REAL SIXTEENTH CENTURY ARMOUR have appeared at his door. Coincidence?
- Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:19 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Cloth Coif Construction
- Replies: 10
- Views: 406
Re: Cloth Coif Construction
I'm sure most of us are familiar with the one-piece, white linen coif patterns (which should probably be made of two layers). I've seen some SCA use of three piece coifs, which seem to be based on the NASA "Snoopy caps" with a wide band running down the center and two side pieces, but I've never se...
- Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:12 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Early 15th century mitten gauntlets
- Replies: 8
- Views: 504
Re: Early 15th century mitten gauntlets
Mark, could you clarify? If we know of even one form of gauntlet which was definitely called a manifer before the late 15th century, that would be helpful! Some things which 14th century people used for particular kinds of combat might be good choices for some modern sports. The gauntlet called gaig...
- Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:40 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Trying to Find a Miniature with Rondel Shoulders with Nails
- Replies: 1
- Views: 151
Re: Trying to Find a Miniature with Rondel Shoulders with Na
I found a different painting with the feature I am thinking of in BNF nouvelle acquisition française 15940 http://manuscriptminiatures.com/5201/16735/
- Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:40 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Trying to Find a Miniature with Rondel Shoulders with Nails
- Replies: 1
- Views: 151
Trying to Find a Miniature with Rondel Shoulders with Nails
Some time a year or so ago I saw a late fourteenth century miniature. There are horsemen on the left, a moat with a bridge, then a walled town on the right. The colour scheme felt "blue" and the whole scene was rather small. The interesting detail was that it showed shoulders in the form of "rondels...
- Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:15 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Insight or advice on some drawings (update helm built)
- Replies: 23
- Views: 1003
Re: Insight or advice on some drawings
I see now, and I believe you are right about mail being the predominant protection for the shoulder, and I'm not sure the upper cannon would bridge the gap, but from the three examples of this type of soaulder, I feel like my interpretation, with the medium/long upper cannon, is a viable one. Examp...
- Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:52 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Insight or advice on some drawings (update helm built)
- Replies: 23
- Views: 1003
Re: Insight or advice on some drawings
Could you clarify on what you are saying? I'm not sure I understand the point you are trying to get across. Apologies Not to worry, I am not feeling well this year. I am not sure that the guys in the painting have long upper cannons which would fill in the gap between the spaulders and the elbow. I...
- Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:58 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Early 15th century mitten gauntlets
- Replies: 8
- Views: 504
Re: Early 15th century mitten gauntlets
I think that one of those could be a mitten of plate for the left hand, the others just look like gloves of plate to me. For myself I would want multiple sources before I spent time and money on a gauntlet like that. There are gigantic databases of late medieval art online ... and any library will h...
- Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:14 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Insight or advice on some drawings (update helm built)
- Replies: 23
- Views: 1003
Re: Insight or advice on some drawings
Reading my description you will see that the long rearbrace and articulated shoulder are for sca/botn/acl use, while the half rearbrace and teardrop shaped shoulder are my interpretation of a historical example. Example being the rather famous fresco depicting two forces met, I believe it is contem...
- Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:05 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Insight or advice on some drawings (update helm built)
- Replies: 23
- Views: 1003
Re: Insight or advice on some drawings
Long rerebraces and articulated shoulder-pieces were fashionable in France and England in that period, but are hard to find in Italy. As far as we can tell, it was around 1410 that a significant number of Italians decided that single plates or brigandine flaps were not enough to lay over their sleev...
- Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:34 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Corrazinas and Brigandines
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1136
Re: Corrazinas and Brigandines
Ian Eaves points out that there are four front-opening, covered armours in the Real Armeria de Madrid which have solid breasts covered with extra rivets to look like they are made of smaller plates. Disguising one construction to look like another is very common in European and Japanese armour, and ...
- Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:45 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Charles de Blois garment on the road in Europe this summer
- Replies: 9
- Views: 439
Re: Charles de Blois garment on the road in Europe this summ
If we are lucky, we might get a German or English catalogue with a list of the academic publications with details that the medieval sewing people would be interested in. There have to be a few things in French out there which we don't know about ...
- Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:01 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Charles de Blois garment on the road in Europe this summer
- Replies: 9
- Views: 439
Charles de Blois garment on the road in Europe this summer
Tasha Kelly tells us that the yellow pourpont of Charles VI is part of a travelling exhibit: in Prague/Praha until 25 September , then in Nuremberg/Nürnberg from October 2016 to March 2017 . The future of its home museum in Lyon in France is very much in doubt, so if you are interested in 14th centu...
- Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:05 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Hand stitching canvas tents?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 700
Re: Hand stitching canvas tents?
Hurstwic has a write-up and they are always good at saying what their source is http://www.hurstwic.org/library/how_to/viking_tent.pdf
- Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:27 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: A linen armouring project
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1202
Re: A linen armouring project
The latest progress report, on the start of the saddle-shaped curve where the round shapes of the upper body and lower body intersect, is now online . I suppose its not so different from a 14th century gauntlet, only in different materials. Now I have to think about the upper body, and how much padd...
- Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:16 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Museum Gift stores- What's missing?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 727
Re: Museum Gift stores- What's missing?
And museum people have all kinds of backgrounds and visions. The art history and marketing types tend to be less interested in "how did they make it?" than the archaeologists and conservationists, and the person in charge of the section with the object you are interested in may be an expert on 19th ...
- Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:36 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Museum Gift stores- What's missing?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 727
Re: Museum Gift stores- What's missing?
No, not a derail at all. I agree totally. The point of the thread was; What do people, who, have more than the average knowledge of arms and armour, want when they go to a museum gift shop? I'd like to see scale replica's of pieces in the museum, or 1 to 1 copies of helmets. An ipad case with somet...
- Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:08 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Museum Gift stores- What's missing?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 727
Re: Museum Gift stores- What's missing?
What's missing? Anything I'd like to buy. I'm out on the fringe but there's usually nothing in a museum gift shop that I'm interested in. Collection books tend to be fluff with pretty pictures and overview prose about exhibits. Coffee table advertising rather than serious information. And the educa...
- Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:45 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Recommended bronze thickness, for Greek armour.
- Replies: 15
- Views: 372
Re: Recommended bronze thickness, for Greek armour.
How large a piece of bronze would you be looking for, and how much tin would you typically find in medieval bronze. With the new customs rules and increased internet communication it maybe worth investigating direct import of bronze from India or Pakistan. I don't know if any of the medieval armour...
- Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:30 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Study Session 2016 - Nov. 19, Central NC, USA
- Replies: 108
- Views: 1883
Re: Study Session 2016
A-267 looks like quite a coup. Sixteenth-century Italian armour feels a bit under-represented in museums and collections today. Is what comes up for sale today pretty overwhelmingly South German? Filippo Negroli and his Contemporaries makes it sound like the Italians were still churning out plenty o...
- Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:28 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Recommended bronze thickness, for Greek armour.
- Replies: 15
- Views: 372
Re: Recommended bronze thickness, for Greek armour.
Finding wire is fairly easy, finding sheet larger sheets gets expensive and take a bit more work. A lot of hard-working people have been searching for a decade, and none of us can find copper-tin bronze sheet around 1 mm thick in widths over a foot :( Jeff Hildebrandt makes his Greek helmets from c...
- Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:13 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Corrazinas and Brigandines
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1136
Re: Corrazinas and Brigandines
Perhaps I should reword my original question to avoid further confusion. 1. From the mid 15th century until the end of the 16th century, covered armours, which used a multiple plate construction (such as brigandines, jacks of plates etc.), seem to have favoured a large number of small plates, rathe...
- Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:09 am
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: Museum Gift stores- What's missing?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 727
Re: Museum Gift stores- What's missing?
Having been in quite a few museum gift stores, I can tell you that "generic" gift items are usually fine for the masses. People who actually have an inclination to purchase something worthwhile typically hover around the book shelves, where there is seldom a lack of good material. There is also usu...
- Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:52 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Corrazinas and Brigandines
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1136
Re: Corrazinas and Brigandines
I have seen one 16th century brigandine which opens up the sides like a Tatami Dô ... it is in the book on the brigandine symposium from Schloss Tirol. I think that the front half of another from the 15th century survives in Milan. It has both plates and mail inside, which seems pretty common from ...
- Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:01 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Long Spaulders and Anime Armour
- Replies: 7
- Views: 432
Re: Long Spaulders and Anime Armour
That was a good MyArmoury thread. European Armour in the Tower of London (Dufty) has a picture of the breast and back of the 3/4 armour from the inside. That helps clear things up a lot. Plate XXXVII. Sasuke built one. Tracy was trying to get me to make one for the kid one year, but I wimped out. I ...
- Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:05 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Long Spaulders and Anime Armour
- Replies: 7
- Views: 432
Long Spaulders and Anime Armour
In Schloss Tratzberg they have an anime armour (aka. anima, aka. articulated cuirass) with rerebraces built anime-style paired with long gauntlets. The rerebraces are “spaulders” of lames rather than “pauldrons” with extensions to cover the front and back of the armpit. Is that a common combination?...
- Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:45 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Corrazinas and Brigandines
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1136
Re: Corrazinas and Brigandines
Your definition of corrazina seems to be based on the Pistoia Altarpiece, Altichiero's frescos, and Turone di Maxio's crucifixion in Verona. Those were painted when it was fashionable to cover curiasses and to make the back in many pieces. By the middle of the 15th century, when white cuirasses with...
- Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:31 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Corrazinas and Brigandines
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1136
Re: Corrazinas and Brigandines
Hi Augusto. I know that what I'm referring to as a "corrazina" is very similar to a coat of plates with a large globose breastplate. The difference being a split down the front which is buckled closed. I thought that this style of armour was commonly called a corrazina nowadays. Perhaps I'm mistake...
- Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:43 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Corrazinas and Brigandines
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1136
Re: Corrazinas and Brigandines
The main point of my first question, was to ask why armours constructed of fewer larger plates fell out of use, while similar armours made of many smaller plates continued in use? Are you sure they did? I have seen plenty of silk-covered helmets from the 16th century, and some silk-covered body arm...
- Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:00 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Corrazinas and Brigandines
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1136
Re: Corrazinas and Brigandines
Studying the forms and role of covered armour over a period more than 250 years long would be a tall order, and if you did it you might find some unexpected things. Hey guys. I have a couple of questions about corrazinas and brigandines that I'm hoping you can help with. Both corrazina and brigandin...
- Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:27 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Polish Winged Hussar build (advice and suggestions welcome!)
- Replies: 16
- Views: 657
Re: Polish Winged Hussar build (advice and suggestions welco
Back in 2014 there were animations which let you look at the Hussar armours in the Landeszeughaus in Graz from all sides, but they took them down and replaced them with a smaller selection of simple photos. The URL was http://www.museum-joanneum.at/de/landeszeughaus/dauerausstellung-4/einblicke but...
- Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:53 pm
- Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
- Topic: PSA: Do you have your arming carpet?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1525
Re: PSA: Do you have your arming carpet?
Not long after an American gentleman acquired the use of an arming carpet, he was dressed in a Jeff Wasson harness. Coincidence?
- Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:09 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: A linen armouring project
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1202
Re: A linen armouring project
Go Sean. Looking forward to seeing this. Thanks Dan. New photos are here . I am putting together and quilting the butt piece lower back section while I decide whether to slightly reduce the padding in the upper body from its current four layers. http://cottesimple.com/articles/observations-pourpoin...
- Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:00 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Polish Winged Hussar build (advice and suggestions welcome!)
- Replies: 16
- Views: 657
Re: Polish Winged Hussar build (advice and suggestions welco
Back in 2014 there were animations which let you look at the Hussar armours in the Landeszeughaus in Graz from all sides, but they took them down and replaced them with a smaller selection of simple photos. The URL was http://www.museum-joanneum.at/de/landeszeughaus/dauerausstellung-4/einblicke but ...
- Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:55 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: A linen armouring project
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1202
Re: A linen armouring project
While cotton batting is understandable enough, why not make it all linen when you had that much linen around? Fighting someplace cold? Well, I could have gone for many layers of linen or linen-cotton instead of just the three. But I feel more confident that I understand how stuffed versions were ma...
