The Armour Archive

Gustovic

I went for reproducing the small bascinet in the kelvingrove collection https://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=ref_arm_1517&term_meta%5B%5D=ref_arm_1517%7Ctyped Mine is kinda tight, but if fits nonetheless. http://i.imgur.com/vAIfZJ7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vDRgBO2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ssUuXQ6.jp...

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Also, the piece has been coated with some sort of modern paint, hence the weird color and patina.

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More pictures

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A fresco from 1412

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Now I'm not sure about the measurements, because the height corresponds to the Churburg 14 breastplate. There is a lot of wobbliness in the communication with the owner. I will update them as soon as I have news.

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All the measurements have been taken placing the measuring tape directly over the metal, so they include the curvature of the piece. Height (from bottom to neck line): 41.5 cm Max Width: 54 cm Width at "Shoulders": 25.5 cm http://i.imgur.com/966q2nJ.jpg Detail of the hinges http://i.imgur.com/SC3pyJ...

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From a private collection in Bosnia.

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I'm such an idiot...

HANDGONNES!!!

I'm gonna make handgonnes. Ha!

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Hello people. Tomorrow for two-three weeks at uni I will be having a bronze casting course, and so i was wondering what kind of artifacts I could make for myself. I'm not very knowledgeable on buckles and such, so could you direct me to some database or something? I'm interested in reproducing somet...

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Nice!

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Tom, what about experimenting with the 6in1 pattern in the neck area?
Shouldn't that make it extra tight?
Also, why is the all flat riveted pattern more dense than the 50% flat riveted and 50% punched?.

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Never seen this ones before on their website. Awesome! http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/25400 http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/25400 http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/25400 If you find more, please post'em!

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one more
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/5152/15982/

And also, a very strange one. It look like it's a plate gorget with bevor. Worn under a frogmouth helm. Those two guys on the right with the chapel seem also to have it.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4161/7476/

Any thoughts?

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Some more.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4911/14602/
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/5194/16654/

This one is hard to tell, it could be solid plate
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/3959/8561/

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Couple more
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/5194/16648/
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/5194/16656/

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I reckon this might help.

https://www.pinterest.com/aboerbront/

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Wow, this is intriguing. We have early XIVth century soldiers in full maille on the left fighting late XIVth century full plate soldiers. http://i.imgur.com/v6L623N.jpg Manuscript: Grenoble BM MS 076 Bible Folio: 124r Dating: 1395 From: France (exact location unknown) Holding Institution: Bibliothèq...

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First of all. kudos, sir!!

Your maille looks great.

Thing is that they also had "steel" hauberks, as mentioned in some inventories, so at least they had something similar to our mild steel, if not harder.

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Hi.

For the last few days I couldn't access neither of the three websites that are hosting basically all the iconography about medieval armour, namely Effigies&Brasses, Manuscript Miniatures and Armour in Art.

Anyone with the same issue?

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Ok, some new information.
The restorer was apparently Austrian, from the Kunsthistorische museum, and yes, he worked at the Churburg castle.
He was known for doing pretty "strong" restorations.
But this is a theory, that Carlo Paggiarino formulated quite a few years ago. Things might have changed.

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I know, problem is that the (or at least I was told) peg is a later addition, by a restorer that basically handled all armour that have that central peg (so it seems like it was his own interpretation, and we are left with that). For example the chartres armour have the peg on the side, and the chur...

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Ah, too late!!!

The pegs connecting the greave with the demi-greave should be on the side. not on the center line of the greave.
Or even better, no peg at all. It just increases mobility and comfort.

Well, perhaps the next people that will do their own graves will read this....

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If the stake is higher I have to assume a super weird hunchback position, with the hammering shoulder tensed up. The height is right, is the posture that is wrong. Anyways, thanks for caring about my health Signo

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Unfortunately it's made of two pieces welded together. I don't have the skill and the manpower (or womanpower) yet to make it by upsetting.

The original stock was 50x50 mm. The 125 Kg Beché was my friend

. The material is C45Ε.

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Well, Per Jensen does it

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Using the flat prevents small dents that later will become cracks in the material.
And also, is moves more material, as the area you are striking is wider.

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For raising 3mm mild I use this, and it works wonderfully.

I raise using the flat, not the peen.

I weights 1.5 Kg and i use it this way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbyZuSC2_zk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2TPaJO3uk

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Well, actually you have two options.

Either a simple come with a complete re-rebrace, like this
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4317/7108/

or actually there are couple of italian frescoes that show soldiers with "english" style spaulders
http://armourinart.com/36/43/

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Do we know more or less how finish looked like back in the day? I know that there is a huge variety, from black to painted to matt to mirror polished. But I wanted to know how much of the working process one could see on the finished piece's surface. Like hammer marks, file marks, sanding... Do even...

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I did flatten steel from a more or less cubic piece, with a 125 Kg Beché.
The one on the left

If the proportions are kept, it's not that bad.

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I think is Becco di Passero, Sparrow's Beak. I thing it comes from the French Bec de Passerau.
Or also I've seen Elmo da Campo, Field's Helmet. But Italian terminology is just utter crap.

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I think it's called Closed Helmet. Or at least that's what I've been calling it so far.

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What thickness are you using? 1.5mm?

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For making iron post-vervelles, I am envisioning a process like this... --Start with a square rod of about 1/4" (6mm) --Using a prick punch, make a mark in the middle of one of the faces, centered about 1/8" from the end. --Drill an 1/8" (3mm) hole at that mark using a pump drill, or a bow and dril...

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If that's all you did all day, you would get pretty fast at it. Mac Especially if you didn't mess around with undersized files, like we modern folks too often do. I love the strap around the forearm to support the handle/counterweight on these: LINK1 LINK2 If you haven't already, maybe you should a...

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How would the drilling be achieved?
I mean, what kind of tool would they have in the XIVth century? First time I hear of a drill that early. Eager to learn more! =)

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