The Armour Archive

Jason Grimes

I made this mantle out of Forth Castle's riveted links. Here is the front view...

http://www.grimmarmoury.com/gallery/vie ... ntle_front

Here is a closeup of the back..

http://www.grimmarmoury.com/gallery/vie ... e_closeup2

Jason Grimes

Hi Grimr, Sorry for highjacking the thread. Your right about the morions, very late for Landesknecht and even then I have seen many more woodcuts of them wearing cabassets instead in that time period. Well you could always wear a mail mantle like the guy in this famous woodcut... m As far as how muc...

Jason Grimes

I have an OK book on German history that covers the 15th century called "The Holy Roman Empire" by Friedrich Heer. It actually covers the history from the Romans up to the 18th century I think. He covers the Habsburgs and the Wittelsbachs families who were the movers and shakers during the 15th cent...

Jason Grimes

Yes, I think solid tassets would be your best bet given your time frame. The good thing is that at this time leg armour was used much more often so your's should be fine. Although I don't think I have seen foot soldiers wear sollerets, just boots and shoes. So is this around the time of the battle o...

Jason Grimes

OK, I found the reference in "Single-leaf woodcuts" on page 1178. The artist is Erhard Schoen and the book dates the woodcut to 1535, so a little earlier then I thought. Here is the text associated with it and I left the "s" as "f" because I'm not comfortable that I would have changed them correctly...

Jason Grimes

Well even the lowest grunt in the Landsknecht totem pole would have been considered middle class. Dopplesoldners were the veteran soldiers who, as their name suggests, received double pay. Instead of the normal 4 gulders per month, they were paid 8 gulders. That and any income received through looti...

Jason Grimes

I'm not too sure Mike, I'm still leaning towards Greek or Roman myself on #4 and #5. InsaneIrish: I think that they are all of a similar or related type. You can see differences in them though. Like the lack of a crest which appears to be typical of this helmet type. The ones you posted I would put ...

Jason Grimes

This is a little later then the time period your are interested in (1540) but these are such cool helmets and I think you could adapt it for SCA use as long as you include an articulated gorget with it. The whole suit might be good for SCA combat, all you need is hidden knee, hand, and foot protecti...

Jason Grimes

In Germany at least, you start to see articulated tassets becoming popular right around 1495. This is most likely under Italian influence. I would think that the Swiss would be under the same influences too. Are you doing a Rieslaufer kit? Sorry, I don't know anything about velvet caps.

Jason Grimes

Definitly not my time period, but I do have a couple of pictures of helms that if I remember correctly are dated to around 500 AD. I have seen many pictures of surviving examples of this type so they must have been fairly popular. Don't take my word for it though, I'm relying on my memory here. m m ...

Jason Grimes

Here you go Alcyoneus, hope this helps.

http://www.grimmarmoury.com/images/Negrol-sallet2a.jpg

Jason Grimes

No problem, I'm glad it helped.

Jason Grimes

Hi Johann, The ropping on the plate at the nape of the neck ends or is cut out when it reaches the cheek plates. Here is a picture of a burgonet that has lost it's cheek plates and you can see where the ropping ends and there is a flat spot for the cheek plate to lay flat on. m This will keep the pl...

Jason Grimes

That is a good question Lord Vanguard, I'm not sure. I guess it could be used as proof for the points tally at the end of the joust. But it is more likely that it was just for the ohh! ahh! factor. They even went farther then this and had a joust called "Mechanisches Rennen" supposedly created by em...

Jason Grimes

Ingrid, as James said this helmet was made for jousting in the "Rennen" or joust of war. The browpiece is made in two halfs and is designed to fly off when struck by the lance. You can see the clip that holds them on at the top. The vambrace on the lance for this joust was also designed this way. Ho...

Jason Grimes

Yes, Eric is correct. The goals I have for my site are simply a central repository of armour images that can be searched and web-based so that it is easy to post images to sites like this one. So WaaaghBoss, you did exactly what I'm hoping people will do, use the site to better our understanding of ...

Jason Grimes

No problem.

It's not like you haven't corrected me many times before.

Jason Grimes

The Ghent altarpiece by Van der Weyden, the panel you have selected "The Righteous knights of Chirst and Judges" is not a depiction of a heavenly host being 'led into battle', it is a depiction of the preperation or assembly at the final judgement of Christ - no battle. Thanks I didn't know that. I...

Jason Grimes

Ugo, those are awesome as usual.

May I put them up on my site too?? Pretty please. -beg- -beg- -whine-

http://www.grimmarmoury.com

Jason Grimes

I have seen the same with my research on the Landsknecht. More tranquil scenes depict very little armour, whereas the artwork of battles depicts a lot of armour. I guess they wanted to take off their armour as soon as they could. I felt the same when ever I have worn mine. One interesting research i...

Jason Grimes

This may be the picture that James was thinking of. It depicts two guys wearing sallets (one visored) with mail gorgets. Although the guy who is behind Christ you can't see what kind of body armour he is wearing.

http://www.grimmarmoury.com/gallery/vie ... arlsruher1

Jason Grimes

Period? Or fantasy? I would say period. If we were able to bring a 15th century person from the past to the prestent and sit them at your table/benches and they don't blink an eye at them, then I think you have a period piece in the style of the times. Of course this is all speculation, but at the ...

Jason Grimes

Here is a picture of a pavise like shield in the Deutsches Historisches Museum and you can see at least one iron point on the bottom to insert into the ground. The museum labels it as 13th century but I have no idea of it's provenence.

http://www.grimmarmoury.com/gallery/vie ... id=Sheild1

Jason Grimes

One of the things that I'm having trouble with is that if you are going to put in the effort to make something not documentable, why not put in a little more effort to do the research to make it documentable? It's a win - win situation. You get a really cool recreation of a historical object and eve...

Jason Grimes

I guess you could also say that it is not documentable. It may not be the same for you, but for me I like to try and recreate what they did do, not what they might have done. In this case I would find historical examples and emulate them. As an example of something they could have done and didn't wo...

Jason Grimes

I know the early Greeks had buckles, 800 B.C. I don't know of any before this period though.

Jason Grimes

something occurred to me... this picture was created mid 15th c. Most of the WMA texts I've studied at 15th, if not 16th c. Does anyone know of period artwork illustrating the knots used for securing points in the 14th c? -Mag I know of an earlier depiction of one on the famous Westminster Psalter ...

Jason Grimes

Alcyoneus, deBlakstan,

That is the second shield I talked about, here is a picture of the Negroli shield that was owned by Charles V and the one that I think Lord Ogier is talking about.

http://www.grimmarmoury.com/gallery/vie ... oli_Shield

This one is made in two parts instead of 10 like the other one.

Jason Grimes

hey, what can I say, it was a convient spot.

Now that I have my Linux box talking with my digital camera, it won't happen again. I promise.

Jason Grimes

Are you sure that the shield has a center umbo grip? I'm not sure that this is correct. So I looked in "Heroic Armor of the Italian Renaissance" about the shield but Stuart Pyhrr doesn't describe the method of straping it. I think that this shield, like another one described by Pyhrr, was strapped w...

Jason Grimes

Yes, A fantastic site! Thanks Again! Jason, on a side note, I just made a second trip this week to the Frazier Museum in Louisville and took approx. 180 pics. If you would like to take a look to see if you want them for your site, I can probably email them to you in bulk. I'm in the process of clea...

Jason Grimes

Hi Ingrid - I'm glad the site is of some use for you, that was my plan.

Hi Mark - Thanks for pointing that out, I have fixed it. And another good point, I need to add some contact info on the site.

Thanks Thomas for the support!!

Jason Grimes

Louis, It looks like you also rolled your edge to the outside. By the time ropping had become popular (around 1515) almost all of the rolls were to the inside. I think that much of the ropping was done on a stake before the roll was completely closed. Expesially the larger rolls like on a breastplat...

Jason Grimes

Well I don't know about it being priceless, but thanks for the kind remarks. I'm hopeing to have it back up by this weekend. Maximillian is a style that is somewhat difficult to date really well. There are some rules of thumb you can use, but they are very broad and thick rules of thumb. Many resour...

Jason Grimes

In a continuing effort to collect every pic of authentic armour, I have been collecting many images from the internet, printing them, and assembling my own reference catalog. I ran across a picture today of a harness that had many of the characteristics of the Maximillian style, minus the fluting. ...

Re: Fluting necessary to be classified as Maximillian???