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- Sat Jan 18, 2003 5:36 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: appropriate use of celtic knotwork?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 14
The Vikings and Anglo-Saxons had their own types of knotwork. But I don't understand what armour you'd have as an 11th century Anglo-Saxon that you could put the knotwork on . They wore mail as armour, and not much else (except the helmet, of course). If you want to do knotwork, may I suggest you pu...
- Sat Jan 18, 2003 5:27 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Pronunciation help for armour terms?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 10
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Konstantin the Red: Tangentially, there is but one i in quillons -- "kwi-yons." [This message has been edited by Konstantin the Red (edited 01-18-2003).] </font><HR></BLOCKQUOT...
- Fri Jan 17, 2003 5:53 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: VIking interest....
- Replies: 12
- Views: 12
And Sunday is the day of the sun, Monday is moon's day, and Saturday is the day of Saturn - why they brought in a Roman god for this one day, when all the rest are either good old Nordic gods or something in the sky - I dunno. The French seem to name their days after the equivalent Roman gods - one ...
- Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:12 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Vandal armour
- Replies: 4
- Views: 16
Dunno about armour, but the Vandals clothing, from the few pcs I've been able to see, were what you might call "generic mediaeval" - thigh length tunic, belted at the waist, hose or tight trousers on the legs. Probably shoes rather than boots. Clean-shaven, with hair like Prince Valiant, but (as I r...
- Thu Jan 16, 2003 5:57 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Questions about this Bayeux Tapestry *pic*
- Replies: 49
- Views: 25
Have a look here
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Egfroth
"I can hear the word money from a distance of fifty miles, if the wind's in the right direction"
Major Dennis Bloodnok, Queen's Forty-Third Deserters (retd.)
see my webpage at www.geocities.com/egfrothos
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Egfroth
"I can hear the word money from a distance of fifty miles, if the wind's in the right direction"
Major Dennis Bloodnok, Queen's Forty-Third Deserters (retd.)
see my webpage at www.geocities.com/egfrothos
- Thu Jan 16, 2003 12:16 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Effigy of St. Maurice... a question
- Replies: 13
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brodir: <B> http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/bump.gif Would be interested to see what some of the maille researchers may have to say about my observations of the hauberk & coif...
- Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:20 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Banded lamellar discoveries
- Replies: 12
- Views: 18
Russ, Sorry, I just can't get my head around your diagram. Perhaps it's the fact that it's done using a keyboard. Are the two first diagrams viewed from the front, the top, side-on, or what? It's a bit confusing. Ditto the )))))) diagram. Is that plates side by side seen from in front, or is it mean...
- Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:20 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Military Organization in Period
- Replies: 15
- Views: 252
Don't forget the Byzantines. They had the most sophisticated military organisation in mediaeval Europe, and a myriad of ranks and titles to go with it. Read Maurices Stategikon to get a good look at it, or if you can get it, Leo's Tactica . A lot of stuff on how to run an army on campaign, drill, lo...
- Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:10 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Banded lamellar discoveries
- Replies: 12
- Views: 18
I take it you've seen Tim Dawson's article kabadion, klibanion" ? In his reconstruction no point is covered by less than 2 layers of leather and 2 layers of steel. That should be adequate, I should think. There's also Peter Beatson's reconstruction which, though I don't agree with its conclusions, a...
- Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:52 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: What are your specialities? (Helms, Body, Gauntlet)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 13
Helmets
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Egfroth
"I can hear the word money from a distance of fifty miles, if the wind's in the right direction"
Major Dennis Bloodnok, Queen's Forty-Third Deserters (retd.)
see my webpage at www.geocities.com/egfrothos
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Egfroth
"I can hear the word money from a distance of fifty miles, if the wind's in the right direction"
Major Dennis Bloodnok, Queen's Forty-Third Deserters (retd.)
see my webpage at www.geocities.com/egfrothos
- Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:43 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Spangenhelm pattern on the archive?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 14
I have a page up at http://www.geocities.com/egfroth1/HbkSpangen.html which shows how to esimate the length you need. But doing it with cardboard is a very good way to go, too. It's important to get your dimensions right so the helmet actually fits you when you've finished. ------------------ Egfrot...
- Mon Jan 13, 2003 4:45 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Effigy of St. Maurice... a question
- Replies: 13
- Views: 24
Yes, there are other examples, but not in effigies but in pictures. I think quite a few of Matthew Paris' pics show this feature. It raises quite a possibility in my mind that this was something that was actually done, rather than an artistic convention. Now, the guys wearing these in the pics are u...
- Mon Jan 13, 2003 4:11 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Pick this apart for me please...
- Replies: 14
- Views: 36
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Wulfgar Davinsson: <B>A mid to late 13th Century kit; *Sugarloaf or Visored Sugarloaf *mid thigh length hauberk with full sleeves and integrated coif *Gamboissed cuisses with w...
- Sat Jan 11, 2003 11:46 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: maille problems???
- Replies: 5
- Views: 8
You might like to have a look at http://www.geocities.com/egfroth1/HbkMakeMail.htm - I put it together for newbies to get them started on making mail. I'd appreciate some feed back, actually, as to whether it's clear enough. ------------------ Egfroth "I can hear the word money from a distance of fi...
- Sat Jan 11, 2003 7:17 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Banded lamellar overlap patterns
- Replies: 9
- Views: 14
Yes, there's still quite a lot of problems attached to the arm protection and kremasmata, as far as I'm concerned. I'm planning to do these ones for my own Byzantine lamellar armour. I've got a few ideas, using metal lames with a particular kind of lacing, but I haven't yet made any to see if it wou...
- Sat Jan 11, 2003 6:29 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Spun Helms?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 7
On the other hand, though in general I don't like the things, they can be made into something respectable with a bit of work. One thing not mentioned in the above site is that you need to squash a spun dome sideways to take away that radial symmetry, in line with the shape of your head. I usually do...
- Sat Jan 11, 2003 6:19 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Kite shields and fake spears
- Replies: 9
- Views: 20
Never had a problem with splitting. How thick was your veneer? BTW, some companies that make curved-ply furniture (you know, that "modern" stuff), manufacture already curved plywood suitable for cutting into shields with no further work - at least they do here in Oz - I'm sure it would be available ...
- Sat Jan 11, 2003 2:55 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Banded lamellar overlap patterns
- Replies: 9
- Views: 14
An interesting problem. We are still puzzling over this one and others like it. Tim Dawson reckons it's simply quilted padding , but I'm not so sure. ------------------ Egfroth "I can hear the word money from a distance of fifty miles, if the wind's in the right direction" Major Dennis Bloodnok, Que...
- Sat Jan 11, 2003 2:46 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Saxon sound files
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6
Or he might be lurking on the list . . . Actually the website given is the only one I have, and that was me putting it together from my (admittely pathetic) command of OE. But fun to do. Even without sound files to guide you, you'd sound a lot better than 90 percent of the people on the field. Now, ...
- Sat Jan 11, 2003 2:42 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Kite shields and fake spears
- Replies: 9
- Views: 20
I would cut the shield to shape after the layers have been glued together. Better control of the shape that way, less chance of stuffing up. BTW, if you want to make a spear the good ol' fashioned way, look at http://www.anvilfire.com/iForge/ ------------------ Egfroth "I can hear the word money fro...
- Fri Jan 10, 2003 5:05 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Kite shields and fake spears
- Replies: 9
- Views: 20
If you're after Norman, 1066 type kite shields, have a look here .They'll also show you the sort of size a kite shield was. Your'e basically looking at something about 2 feet wide by maybe 3'6" to 4 feet long. The Tapestry also shows several strapping methods, if you look at the backs of the shields...
- Wed Jan 08, 2003 6:26 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Sleeveless hauberk pattern??
- Replies: 4
- Views: 21
Actually, the terms byrnie, brnja, broigne, lorikion, mail-shirt, haubergeon and hauberk are pretty much interchangeable, depending on which culture you came from. Byrnie was the word used by the pre-Conquest English. Hauberk is a Frenchified term, which originally meant a mail hood (coif) and later...
- Wed Jan 08, 2003 6:12 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Under a maille shirt - A research question
- Replies: 23
- Views: 32
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by valen: True, true. My maille has never been oiled either. It rusts up the odd time when I use it a lot, and gets soaked in sweat Yep; I used to live in the tropics - temperatur...
- Tue Jan 07, 2003 6:05 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Under a maille shirt - A research question
- Replies: 23
- Views: 32
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ernst: <B>Steve, IIRC, one of the Wisby coifs (Gotland Fornsal Inv.# 17530:A2) was found with traces of linen inside, though it would be hard to say if this was from a lining o...
- Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:10 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Under a maille shirt - A research question
- Replies: 23
- Views: 32
As far as I've been able to determine over several years of investigation, there is no evidence that anything but normal clothes was worn under mail in Western Europe prior to the Crusades. "Normal clothing", on the other hand, would have consisted of at least one layer of linen (undershirt) and one...
- Sat Jan 04, 2003 6:18 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: a few questions on period armour
- Replies: 3
- Views: 9
Have a look at this thread. And you should check out the Red Kaganate site, as well. ------------------ Egfroth "I can hear the word money from a distance of fifty miles, if the wind's in the right direction" Major Dennis Bloodnok, Queen's Forty-Third Deserters (retd.) see my webpage at www.geocitie...
- Sat Jan 04, 2003 5:33 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Shield steel thickness?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 10
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Alcyoneus: I think you meant SMALL arms fire. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/wink.gif </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, I think he was being silly. ------------------ Egfrot...
- Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:50 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Norman Cloak
- Replies: 4
- Views: 18
The Bayeux Tapestry shows several examples of cloaks being worn by Normans. The "hang" of some cloaks suggests a rectangle , that of others suggests a semicircular cloak (which is what I have). There is a pic also of Harold Godwinson with what is almost certainly semicircular, but he is English, not...
- Fri Jan 03, 2003 5:38 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Getting the blackness off of metal
- Replies: 3
- Views: 6
Sasha has written a step by step procedure for getting rid of the black scale, which he kindly allowed me to put up on my site. Have a look here ------------------ Egfroth "I can hear the word money from a distance of fifty miles, if the wind's in the right direction" Major Dennis Bloodnok, Queen's ...
- Thu Jan 02, 2003 8:34 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Roman Helmets
- Replies: 4
- Views: 15
I don't have any myself, but if you don't get any joy, you might try contacting the guys on the re-enactment forum at the Roman Army page http://pub45.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk ------------------ Egfroth "I can hear the word money from a distance of fifty miles, if the wind's in the right direction...
- Tue Dec 31, 2002 3:42 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Plate and Chain
- Replies: 9
- Views: 19
When I was in Ankara, I saw an Ottoman cuisse with multiple narrow plates joined by mail rings. I took notes and made sketches, and wrote an illustrated article for New Hedeby magazine (now, sadly, no more). I'll scan it and email it to you. ------------------ Egfroth "I can hear the word money from...
- Sun Dec 29, 2002 4:45 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Good Spangenhelm pattern?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 22
Ah, Hal. You are a scholar and a gentleman. To paraphrase Heinlein in "Glory Road" " Noblesse oblige is only felt by the truly noble . . ." ------------------ Egfroth "I can hear the word money from a distance of fifty miles, if the wind's in the right direction" Major Dennis Bloodnok, Queen's Forty...
- Sat Dec 28, 2002 6:50 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: my first spangenhelm (pic)
- Replies: 1
- Views: 17
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Crow´s Anvil: <B>finally it´s done, my first attempt to create a spangenhelm. based on the pic from jeff www.geocities.com/asgardarmouries/helm.html I create a kind of viking...
- Fri Dec 27, 2002 5:59 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Celtic maille *the wrong way* ????
- Replies: 6
- Views: 16
When i started making amour, i was told that if the rings were arranged in "vertical rows" they provided multiple opporunities for a weapon to "grip", as it hit the exposed edges of ring after ring on its way down, making it more likely that a blow would be damaging, rather than glancing off as it w...
- Fri Dec 27, 2002 5:44 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Spangenhelm backplate question?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 10
Dear Sirmarc, There was a discussion about rivetting inside a helmet bowl not all that long ago, on this very forum unless I much mistake. A quick browse through the last four pages doesn't seem to turn it up, but it may be buried in a thread about another subject. Maybe someone else reading this th...
