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Egfroth

so, instead of drying to dish it, take it apart, flatten the top and side bands, then just bend them to the fit?? and that should work? I think I'll give it a try. also, what do you suggest I do instead of overlaping the head band joint? I don't have any welding skill. so thats pretty much out... ~...

Egfroth

Karen, Thanks very much. These are particularly cool. Halvgrim, I have a mate who has a facsimile copy of the Romance of Alexander. I might be able to persuade him to scan a few frames from it (be aware the book is completely full of illustrations, and is about 3 inches thick!). There seem to have b...

Egfroth

If you really want to do it properly, I'd recommend you take it apart and straighten out the bands to a large degree, and then put a crosswise curve in them by a process similar to dishing, as described above. Only then bend the bands into shape again and assemble. However, if all you want to do is ...

Egfroth

Oh, yes. See http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=56373

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http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=56373

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http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=56373

Egfroth

For 14th century Hungarian (though for relatively high-class people), see the Illuminated Chronicle , a 14th century illustrated life of the 11th century King Stephen, who converted Hungary to Christianity. Quite a bit of nice armour there. For the local war-outfits, in particular look at the body o...

Egfroth

Egfroth - definitely? absolutely? really? A surmise at best, I am not being awkward for the sake of it but it is very easy to make those surmises. I would prefer could be. Maybe I was a little over-positive in my statement. I'd prefer "extremely likely" - but otherwise how does one interpret the pi...

Egfroth

Yes, it is certainly possible to do it well, and still be SCA legal - even the helmet can be made to look good - without a ghastly obvious bar-grille. Check the pictures Greenshield posted in this thread. The two bottom ones show him fighting SCA.

Egfroth

I put together what I could collect on the Balkan Slavs a while ago, as part of my desire to know about the neighbours of Byzantium. You can see the results of my efforts here . Hope you like it. And if you want some really good video information on the Balkan tribes (though dating to the 9th, not t...

Egfroth

To be honest, we know so little about what the Normans of 1066 wore, and even less of what those of 1000 wore, that it's almost all guesswork, based either on things like the Bayeux Tapestry or contemporary Frankish, rather than Norman pictures.

Bugger all, really.

Egfroth

The Liber ad honorem Augusti by Peter of Eboli, from around 1195, shows helmets which are definitely painted - they have stripes and such. See http://www.renfroana.150m.com/liberadhonorem.htm

Also a Spanish mural of the capture of Majorca dated about 1250, shows helmets painted in stripes.

Egfroth

Oh, quite a few of us. Start off by reading the thread here . This applies to a later period, but unfortunately there are not all that many representations dating to the era you're interested in - quite a bit of the blame should be put onto the iconoclast Emperors, who destroyed many many religious ...

Egfroth

can anyone tell me the name of the two-handed sword seen in this image from the Mac Bible? m the footsoldier in the center of the image with the two handed sword raised over his head?? thanks Will I've always called it "Horror Weapon No. 1". ("Horror Weapon No. 2" is the one shown in Drogomir's att...

Egfroth

Greenshield, I'm in Melbourne. Are you coming down this way? If so, give me a call. You can reach me on 0417 556 097. If you're in Sydney, contact Peter and Chrsitobel of Birka Traders and let them know Egfroth sent you (then stand well back - those missiles can be sharp! ). They're both in the New ...

Egfroth

Well, the ARROWHEADS didn't do much damage to maille..... Now, the cane ARROWSHAFTS? They splintered when the stone point stopped on the maille and acted as a splitting wedge for the shaft. The splintered shafts went through the gaps in the maille links. They were another matter entirely. Some of t...

Egfroth

Not the 9th century (though Alfred survived into the 10th - just!), but it could be of help. See m I don't know that there was all that much change in women's clothing over those two centuries anyway (though how would we know - there seems to be so little pictorial evidence from the time of the Viki...

Egfroth

Russ Mitchell wrote:
Friend, I cannot download from your link....

Strange . . . it works for me.

But I got it by putting amazon.com in the address bar then doing a search for "De Aministrando Imperio"

Maybe that will work for you.

Egfroth

Then there's this Byzantine one, which I believe is 12th century (it's in the Louvre Museum in Paris).

Egfroth

It's been proposed that this garment worn by St Merkourios (Byzantine, c. 1295) is jazerant/gestron/khazagand.

See the folded over "lapel" of mail? Though if I had my druthers, I'd have it come together a bit better at the front . . .

Egfroth

You can get Constanine Porphyrogennetos' book, usually known as "De Aministrando Imperio" at m and m It's a great read - but it doesn't mention the Magyars by name - however, it's possible that at least some of the "Turks" he refers to are actually Magyars. But hell, get it anyway. It's SUCH an amaz...

Egfroth

Manning Imperial make several sabres of this type - see m - they're based upon records of steppe finds as you can see at m There's a bunch of sabres (and armour and other military stuff) in Khazar finds at m , though I could only see a couple of crossguards and no pommels. I also did a search on the...

Egfroth

Damn! First thing I thought of was Queen Arnegunde, but you already have her.

You might try for Mozarabic art - Christian (Visigothic) Spaniards under the Moors after the conquest. Rather too late, I know, but it might give you some pointers.

Egfroth

Yes - I don' think there was any great development in fabric technology in the itervening time. Natural dyes, natural fabrics. If you want to see TRUE 12th century gorgeosity (but remember, this is royal stuff, and Byzantine-influenced at that) see m for the coronation regalia of Roger II of Sicily.

Egfroth

Found in Hedeby/Haithabu as I recall. I have the picture lying around somewhere. But maybe I'll just wait, and let Wyrm suffer . . .

Egfroth

Interesting question. You are saying whichever colour you use outide, the lining would still be gold? Notso sure about THAT for a 12th century Frank. We'd be talking a LOT of money to afford gold cloth - how does one make it with the technology of the time, except by using genuine gold thread? (Actu...

Egfroth

Those kits aren't mine, they are just inspiration for me to get new shoulders myself. They are awsome though. Yeah - both mates of mine from Australia - the first is Chris (Quarf) Morgan from the New Varangian Guard's Miklagard (Sydney) garrison, and the second is the venerable Dr Tim Dawson (of Le...

Egfroth

Some of the pressblachs on the Vendel helmets have human figures in what one can probably assume was the dress of the day. That should be a good start.

Do you have info on the swords? They're particularly beautiful - a lot like the Sutton Hoo sword.

Egfroth

1) before I go much further, how tight should lamellar fit? Right now I can squeeze it on over 1/4 inch of padding, is that too tight? Probably. I'd allow half an inch at least, depending on what type of combat you're doing. Better still, make it a little oversize even with a half inch of padding, ...

Egfroth

Oh, I think so. Look at the fake stitch marks. The prevailing assumption is certainly that this is a pottery copy of a leather original. By the way, it's incredibly similar to a leather water bottle found on the Mary Rose (sank in 1545).

Egfroth

Here's a very hi-res detail of those legs. They're on an ikon of St Michael (the archangel) dating probably to the 11th century, and looted in the sack of Constantinople of 1204 - now in the treasury of San Marco, in Venice. I have a colour pic of the whole thing, far too big to put on this forum, b...

Egfroth

Yes there is. See photo below. 11th century Anglo-Saxon. I have the book reference somewhere, if you want it.

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RandallMoffett, I don't think fabric would be capable of taking the forces involved. It's different with scale armour, because that has a single large piece of fabric as backing, rather than the relatively narrow strips used in "banded" lamellar. I think if they were made of fabric they'd sag in the...

Egfroth

Thanks alot everyone, those links and images were a real help! So If I wanted to portray a Saxon who went south to join the vanagrian gard, what type of kit would I use? If I used all byzantine equipment then I'd pretty much be indistingisable from a regular Byzantine soldier? To a large extent - S...

Egfroth

The original I based my interpretation on is at m . It's carved in steatite (a fine-grained rock). There are quite a few variations in depictions of Byzantine armoured sleeves and skirts, and this particular one occurs a few times and particularly took my eye as a practical problem to be solved in t...

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