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Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

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Any chance you might have some pictures of leather you have hardened this way? do you dunk it or paint it on? how brittle does it become?

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Interesting. The thinner leather simply does not hold up as well when hardened. Adding mass does not change that. Torvaldr's scales work in the lighter weight because of their smaller size. Note that he does not offer bazubands in the same weight leather as his scales. Also, there is an overlap str...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Part of how the wax hardening works is introducing wax into the interstices of the leather, where it solidifies. If the glue is already there holding fibers together, then the wax doesn't have as much space to fill. They're not, in my estimation, going to work well together. Also, in terms of addin...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

I don't believe so, I've only just become very active, B3R, going to authorize this month.

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

I will be going, this is my first GW and my first war as a heavy fighter. I'll be there in calon purple and gold. I'm curios what the sides are, can anyone tell me?
Odd

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

That is why i didn't stick with a singular method of hardening for my first set or armor, I want to try most of the methods and see what works.
Also to see how the chemistry of it all worked out.

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

daggrim, After my experiment i would advice dying before any hardening is done, it will darken the dye but after it is hardening you will need to use more dye and it will not come out evenly. As for adding glue to the pot of 175 water. That is the process i call flash hardening. I don't think it wou...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

It is an amazing war though, fantastic classes, amazing fighting, great parties, a lake without leaches. If i had to choose between lilies and pennsic each year i would choose lilies
Odd

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Prepare for all weather.
I've been to one that had frost on the first weekend and 110 degree weather packing up.

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Here are some pictures from this weekend's work. finished armor.jpg The final look of my arms and legs, dye job is post hardening. The dye did absorb unevenly. 021212145616.jpg The scales arranges in the pot before adding the pledge future polish drying scales.jpg The scales hanging to dry. point of...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

day three, My partner in crime finished the dying of the arms and legs over the week. I sealed front and back with Pledge future shine polish. They are now fully complete, photos to come when i find the cord for my phone. Finished drilling holes into my scales. eschewed the jig since i have trouble ...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Daggrim, As i understand the process of glue hardening, it is exactly like water hardening using the baking method. You start you mixture with 1:10 glue water the soak to saturation, this allows the glue to bind to the fibers of the leather. adding extra reinforcement when you bake it. Also the glue...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

As is "always" the case I was only hit places i had no armor, so i expect that even a light shot somewhere with no armor may leave a bruise.
Thank you all for your advice.

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

So I awoke this morning after out baronial fighter practice to find bruises in place i was certain had never been hit. I don't want to be a rhino-hider (because who wants to hide rhinos on the field) but i literally have no recollection of one of those shots, another shot i was certain was light but...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

the cap fit perfectly into the helmet being built for me and didn't need to be attached at all. I will put up pictures as soon as i remember to put my camera's data chord with my things for work.

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

I'm trying 8 layers of cotton batting packed medium tight. I'm hand sewing it so i can't do too much packing. I will have a marshal check it tonight
Odd

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

As Blaine says, it's a plate from Achille Marozzo's Opera Nova. You can find various copies of the plates around the internet (I tend to use a copy of http://www.thehaca.com/pdf/OldSwordPlay.pdf saved on my PC). If the tournament requires a specific style, rather than picture-perfect "Look at this ...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Saritor wrote:

Because I'm trying to use a period style and adapt it.

which book is that, I'm going to need to find it and use it this pennsic for the by the book tourney.

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

So i've been bouncing around the forum for about two hours researching helmet padding for sca heavy armor fighting. People have their own opinions on what material is best but I'm not seeing much about thickness. My questions are regarding cotton batting stuffed linen for liners. I happen to have a ...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

swete,
Is that picture how you fight in sca steel combat? I'm fighting a light armor tourney after a heavy armor tourney and want to go sword and shield. Also what is your shield made of that it doesn't need edging?

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

It seems to me like there is some method used other than creating a wooden form for every piece ordered since the professionals ask about certain measurements and use that to make their master pieces. And especially with leather that often needs to be attached to a last to bake form properly. I gues...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Konstantine,
That is brilliant, and of course you can keep each form with measurements against future need. I am deeply impressed.
Odd

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

So, to clear this up, you want to make something to sell, and you're asking us how to make it? Actually i'm not looking to sell the forms, I'm looking to maybe sell armor or at least have equipment for new fighter in my area looking to make their own. The type of lasts i'm thinking about is more fo...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

So i've kind of got the armor bug and would like to maybe start side lining in creating armor, one of the things i've been wondering about is making adjustable forms for custom orders. I know the basics of making a static form but how would you make one that could be adjusted. Oddbiorn Umm.. like a...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

So i've kind of got the armor bug and would like to maybe start side lining in creating armor, one of the things i've been wondering about is making adjustable forms for custom orders. I know the basics of making a static form but how would you make one that could be adjusted.
Oddbiorn

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Floor polish researched thanks to Gavin Kilkenny. I will be proceeding with doing a full soak of the scales with the floor polish, I will then post my observations of the flexibility and harness of the baked vs boiled vs polished scales. Again this is just a by product of the scales not my larger pi...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Ok, So today was an exercise in frustration for me. My partner in crime Eirik made a jib for the scales, however i can't make it work right, it only likes him. So he drilled scales while I strapped my arms and legs, applied first coat of dye, worked on round shield. The good news, My arms and legs w...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

I know folks who have 4mm natural hemp. Let me know if you want some, I'll point you there way, its not on their site, you have to ask for it.

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

I'll be using hemp, if you take the time to find the woody bits and singe them off there will be less friction. I also recomend once your done with the rubbing it down with some wax like jojoba.
Odd

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

I'll second a request for tutorial. It may help me make one for a HR blade with tip on it, oh and my own rattan.
Do they work with a baldric?

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Slaine wrote:Odd, This looks great. Are you trying to be ready by Chieftains?

Yes i am, it's the next event i can be authorized at. I'm not expecting to do well but i'm expecting to have fun.
Odd

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

My idea was to make a jig for the press. A simple 1 by 4 rectangle box with a pre-drilled scal on top as a guide. This way i could drill multiple scales at once.
Odd

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

I will certainly post a picture of the finished kit once it is finished. I brought the hardened pieces to the marshal before I dyed or strapped them so that if i needed to harden them more i could. Once those pieces are dyed and strapped i will add photos. The klibanion will take more time, drilling...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

UPDATE: Brought my armor to meeting today. Passed by two knight marshals. The way they tested is they looked at construction and then knocked on the leather to test hardening. Also i commissioned my helmet today, I traded a bit of historical accuracy for personalization. It will be a Spanganhelm wit...

Oddbjorn_Mjolksiglandi

Oddvarr, In my own experiment i'm going off of documentation about byzantine cavelry having a type of divided riding skirt of whatever armor they were wearing, so i will be doing lamellar, with a slit in front and in back. I'll also be lacing the torso to the skirt very loosely so that it hangs and ...

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