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by Konstantin the Red
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:19 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Elk Hide ?
Replies: 3
Views: 9

It'll work okay for straps. If you must make a belt from it, keep the belt narrow or else double it up and stitch it together. Cut the belt and strap stuff from the part of the hide near the spine; that's the densest, stiffest, sturdiest part of the leather. Use the hide near the belly or the legs f...
by Konstantin the Red
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:14 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: rivited barbute design
Replies: 12
Views: 10

Wolf, I disagree with that interpretation: those are suspension-band rivets that held in a suspension-strap system like a medieval take on the interior webbing straps of a US Army pot helmet. Very typical of barbutes, too. The helmet itself would have been hot-raised from either a flat circle of met...
by Konstantin the Red
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:08 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: rivited barbute design
Replies: 12
Views: 10

Wyrm, I am disappointed that you did not think to search on "Ashcraft/Baker" (which seems to be how they really spell it) -- it would have brought you here: http://www.ashcraftbaker.com/index.htm Scroll down and click "Basic Helmets." They've updated their product line, I see, but the "Sugarloafs" m...
by Konstantin the Red
Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:50 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Leather Armour Spaulders and Rivets
Replies: 2
Views: 12

The essence to making a shoulder joint work is to attach it at a single point. It sounds to me like you are making either leather spaudlers, or a 14th-century shoulder joint for a leather arm (same thing, really, just not separate -- it's integral with the rerebrace). Where the shoulder armor attach...
by Konstantin the Red
Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:35 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Maille Making Machine
Replies: 45
Views: 62

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ArtemisGreen: ... i think i'd cut the rings using the modified bolt cutters, then put them in a separate machine that flattens many at once (using a big ram). I don't think you...
by Konstantin the Red
Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:59 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Maille Making Machine
Replies: 45
Views: 62

Lach, I gather that's been tried -- and promptly abandoned. To roll-overlap links by hand in batches isn't hard at all: string the links on the final-size mandrel (usually 1/16" smaller in diameter than the initial mandrel) about twenty to thirty in a bunch, grab a nice thick board, say two feet of ...
by Konstantin the Red
Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:40 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: rivited barbute design
Replies: 12
Views: 10

Use tagboard or manila folder to make up the pattern of the plate. You are going to end up with something in the league of Ashcraft-Baker's basic helmet. This is a perfectly workable design, simple and straightforward to do. To actually make it look like a barbute, rather than a sketchily barbute-li...
by Konstantin the Red
Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:44 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Maille Making Machine
Replies: 45
Views: 62

Gentlemen, the company that makes shark mail, butchers' gloves, and other fine electro-welded SS e4:1 protective articles is Whiting & Davis. I understand their mail production machines (they have four or five) cost about US$350,000.00 apiece. I don't know who builds the things; maybe it's done in-h...
by Konstantin the Red
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:30 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: First 5/16" ID maille garment finished!
Replies: 17
Views: 10

Oh, my goodness. Maillecake!
by Konstantin the Red
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:18 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Aventails and Leather
Replies: 8
Views: 25

http://www.arador.com/discforums/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=738&s=3b770275782851d9ed 75c52f56d643ad This thread has some tips on making camails, some of which are contributed by yours truly, particularly the one at the bottom of the thread. The line of your vervelles determines the shape of your camail...
by Konstantin the Red
Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:12 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Two questions
Replies: 9
Views: 10

Beware, however, of most washers -- they tend to produce 70-pound byrnies because they are a lot thicker than needed for mail.
by Konstantin the Red
Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:58 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Ring size
Replies: 5
Views: 18

That 9mm inner diameter is a touch big for that gauge of wire if you are doing butted. You'd be okay riveting. In butted, you'd get better strength from quarter-hard or half-hard wire in the 5-7mm ID range. We've seen historical examples of mail links with inner diameters between 3mm and 12mm. It mo...
by Konstantin the Red
Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:49 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Gembeson or Akethon
Replies: 21
Views: 24

While good old Webster's 3rd New International unabridged dictionary gives them as synonyms, armor writers differentiate -- perhaps according to something they've researched, and not laid out for us consumers. They part them according to size, weight, and intent. The hauberk, they say, was of heavie...
by Konstantin the Red
Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:30 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Rosie The Riveter?
Replies: 14
Views: 9

Better rework the link. The link as currently constituted is a search, and it yields a blank page.

Thanx in advance.
by Konstantin the Red
Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:33 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Holy Grail stuff for sale at Museum REps
Replies: 19
Views: 7

"I unclog my nostrils in your direction! -- and then I shall fetch la vache."

If it weren't for The Holy Grail, the Society wouldn't have half of its traditional jokes.
by Konstantin the Red
Wed Jul 30, 2003 7:51 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: SCA legal full chain hauberk ideas
Replies: 16
Views: 24

The chain over the elbow joint is simply neither here nor there as far as making the defense SCA legal: what's needed is the three-point rigid coverage of the bony processes of the elbow joint -- a deep, fanless cup, in short.

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"The Minstrel Boy to the war is gone..."
by Konstantin the Red
Wed Jul 30, 2003 7:35 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Great helm ca 1300 (pic)
Replies: 10
Views: 21

What all these guys said; I especially like the trick of fitting the tabbed topcap internally. You are good at cutting and fitting metal, and you are well on the way to producing some real armourcake, Raymund, so keep it up! Tricks to help with making a rolled over solid edge: The first one is to ma...
by Konstantin the Red
Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:13 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: English Wheels
Replies: 5
Views: 6

And in their usual form, better suited to metal 20 gauge and lighter. There is rumor of somebody trying to develop a version of it with a hydraulic motor powering the upper wheel for moosing thicker steel around, but I haven't heard of this thing getting anywhere beyond prototype yet.
by Konstantin the Red
Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:03 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: helm problem
Replies: 8
Views: 8

And at least centerpunch your hole before you drill it so your bit doesn't oscillate like this first effort did. It's also good to put a drop of oil on the centerpunch dimple before you start to drill: it helps to cool the drill bit, which helps keep it sharp, which helps keep it from these chatteri...
by Konstantin the Red
Sat Jul 26, 2003 11:08 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Shield blankk wood question
Replies: 4
Views: 18

Stay with the plain plywood, but perhaps your friend would prefer to use a Viking round shield that is two inches smaller diameter, and perhaps a lighter reinforcing ring on the back of the edge, either a narrower ring or a thinner layer of wood. ------------------ "The Minstrel Boy to the war is go...
by Konstantin the Red
Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:58 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: That Russian Sallet website
Replies: 7
Views: 31

I'm getting a Cyrillic 404 File Not Found [lit.; "nonexisting page"] for Hayden's link, doubtless because it lacks its slashes. Edit that bad boy, please. Meanwhile, K1e1 has the complete link. And, just to round up: "Juan Santell, the Willing Pell..." is there more to that verse? It has a nice, rol...
by Konstantin the Red
Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:18 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Point me in the right direction for camail construction patt
Replies: 4
Views: 13

Meanwhile... The camail is built exactly like the shouldery parts of the coif, with the addition of two little triangles of mail rising to fill in at the temples. The exact size and shape of the triangles depends on the layout of the camail strap, on whether it slants upward to either temple from a ...
by Konstantin the Red
Sun Jul 06, 2003 1:48 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: patters
Replies: 3
Views: 12

I suspected that might be the case. Get Strunk & White anyway -- you can read it in little bites and still get the benefit. I see you are already trying, and I say WTG! Keep it up; it's already better!
by Konstantin the Red
Sun Jul 06, 2003 1:42 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Calling Jason Grimes re: Dishing Techniques!
Replies: 6
Views: 16

It's known to the Germans as "hammering on air:" you put your hammer hits not where the metal is resting on the anvil face, but right next to it. It's often best done with a soft-faced hammer like a weighted-rawhide mallet. Minimal marring, minimal planishing, and it curves metal very well. It may a...
by Konstantin the Red
Sat Jul 05, 2003 2:59 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: maille
Replies: 8
Views: 14

If it's silvery and has a faint metallic smell like when you put your face on a chainlink fence, it's galvanized wire. Very good at not rusting except perhaps on the cut ends. Maillers go on at some length about "galvy smell," which some find very objectionable and seems to be the result of some peo...
by Konstantin the Red
Sat Jul 05, 2003 2:43 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: patters
Replies: 3
Views: 12

Depends on your intended use -- a/k/a your "threat environment." Armor built for war was fairly light, until they started making "armor of proof" and bouncing pistol balls off it. Armor for sporting-goods use got designed more to protect you against a certain specific known threat than to let you ma...
by Konstantin the Red
Sat Jul 05, 2003 1:45 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Rawhide mallet Vs wooden mallet
Replies: 2
Views: 15

Hamish, either dish with a regular rawhide mallet until it's mushroomed and rounded, or make it into a rounded one with a new rasp.
by Konstantin the Red
Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:54 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: maille
Replies: 8
Views: 14

Your question's actually a multi-parter, as first we've got to establish whether by "pattern" you mean the mail weave, or the plan for what you'd care to make the mail into. Many maillers urge beginners to start rather small, as many maillers are teenagers who are not widely recognized as paragons o...
by Konstantin the Red
Tue Jul 01, 2003 5:59 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Cross post; because WMA said it was ok.
Replies: 27
Views: 13

Uh, gang, there is a practical use for nipple rings in these, er, anatomical breastplates: as anchor points for chains securing helms, sword hilts, baselards, roundel daggers...

Anybody trying for fourteenth-century kink?

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"The Minstrel Boy on his tongue hath trod..."
by Konstantin the Red
Tue Jul 01, 2003 5:47 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Name of Helm
Replies: 4
Views: 10

Sean, I think we'd call that a modified frogmouth, one opened up to see better while still featuring grillwork across the sights. The helm would be good for sword melée with rebated weapons, while at the same time being thoroughly protective of the neck. Very much a tourney helm; sporting goods rat...
by Konstantin the Red
Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:44 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 14th Century German Armour
Replies: 11
Views: 55

Polarus, go ahead with the English sources -- England and Scotland imported the bulk of their high-end plate armor anyway. Much of it was German, but it got lively competition from the Italians too. Your period of interest is the heyday of the International/Camail-&-Jupon armours. British funerary b...
by Konstantin the Red
Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:30 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Rawhide Shield Edging
Replies: 7
Views: 17

You can get artificial sinew thread on spools either through Leather Factory, perhaps online leather dealers, or check with local beading shops -- they sell supplies to make beadwork and bead jewelry. They use artificial sinew to make the network of dreamcatchers with. The local beading place is whe...
by Konstantin the Red
Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:21 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Is this Ok for SCA?
Replies: 47
Views: 27

Dang; Artemis may be stuck with the "edge of the anvil plus cold chiseling" Third-Worldy kind of cutting for the next couple months. It's an extremely ragged cut that needs lots of bench grinder time to clean up.
by Konstantin the Red
Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:43 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Is this Ok for SCA?
Replies: 47
Views: 27

Whoa, the key word here was rent. See who rents out tools; they may even have more than one brand of electric power shear. Makita, for one, makes them, and they cost a few hundred dollars US to buy. And somebody around here just noted electric powershears on ebay. Here's the thread: http://www.armou...
by Konstantin the Red
Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:18 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Is this Ok for SCA?
Replies: 47
Views: 27

If you can't get to a buddy with a Beverly, see if you might rent a power shear. They say that while power shears are mostly only rated for 16 gauge, they will handle 14 if you take it slow.