The early bascinet will fight best, and likely cost three times what the sugarloaf or barrel helm will. All of these will protect well.
In the SCA game, a hat with corners will catch more hits.
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- Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:12 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: proper helmet
- Replies: 4
- Views: 18
- Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:58 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Is this Ok for SCA?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 27
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ArtemisGreen: <B>Thanks for all the help Rob. I'd love to make the Sinric one, but ill start out making the more simple barrel as a prototype (maybe 18 or 20 ga) and move up fr...
- Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:37 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Absolute minimum for a shop?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 14
Hammers: you will probably want three or four. Armourers accumulate hammers, but an armourer can have literally fifty hammers and do ninety percent of his hammer work with two or three of them. You will be pretty well served with three or four out of the following: one large hammer, with rounded fac...
- Wed Jun 25, 2003 6:22 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Full suit of armor for Leeran........
- Replies: 17
- Views: 19
Sallet's going to show up in the fifteenth century. Sounds like Leeran is decoupling armor from persona. That often happens in the SCA -- my 15th-c. Russian SCA persona fights in armor of a date sixty years before him and a thousand and more miles further west, because I like how an international-st...
- Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:42 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Need Idea's for a full suit of armor
- Replies: 51
- Views: 37
And that sort of thing didn't happen in the fourteenth century in any case. There were travelers who got that far by then, but they weren't armor people and they didn't try that kind of mix. Really, though, the SCA isn't going to make any kind of fuss beyond "hey, cool suit" if you have both a compl...
- Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:34 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Rig for turning out mail.
- Replies: 1
- Views: 7
- Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:30 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How well does "brass trim" hold up?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 34
I'm a silver-blackener myself -- can't wear the stuff on my skin without rhodium plating or other corrosion stopper. Feed me on Italian food and you can just about watch the tarnish spread across fresh-buffed silver like the progress of a minute hand around a clock. That gold jewelry was definitely ...
- Mon Jun 23, 2003 3:30 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Removing light surface rust
- Replies: 7
- Views: 12
- Mon Jun 23, 2003 3:24 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: A few questions
- Replies: 6
- Views: 11
Rebar tie wire works best for riveted mail, and that stuff is for the advanced mailler who is after high-performance, low weight mail, because it takes three to five times as long to make as the butted stuff. IMO, tie wire is too soft to make butted links from. Galvanized wire is better stuff for bu...
- Sat Jun 21, 2003 5:11 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Sword Belt Pattern
- Replies: 3
- Views: 14
You can get the basic method from the diagram in Oakeshott's AoW, p.241. Next, check out memorial brasses -- most of the examples date from the 13th and early 14th century, though -- for variants on the theme. Apparently, deerskin was the favored material for making such swordbelts, because of its l...
- Sat Jun 21, 2003 4:44 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Is this Ok for SCA?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 27
The helm as pictured and described is legal for metal thickness. The rivets for the faceplate may need to be doubled up -- they may be overly widely spaced. Check Society standards for maximum rivet spacing. That won't be hard to fix. What will be trickier will be seeing out of that spangen/sugarloa...
- Sat Jun 21, 2003 4:33 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: New Leg Harness Eye Candy
- Replies: 31
- Views: 26
- Sat Jun 21, 2003 4:15 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: help with padding?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 10
- Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:40 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: heater curve
- Replies: 4
- Views: 8
- Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:35 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Pic of My almost complete transitional kit
- Replies: 17
- Views: 137
- Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:27 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Better bargrills? (SCA specific)
- Replies: 23
- Views: 49
On a related note, bar-grilling in this fashion works every bit as well (or poorly, depending on the view you take) for 15th-c. armets and closehelmets. To my eye, it seems to fall in more naturally with this type of helmet; the bars mimic the orientations and angles of the slots cut for breaths and...
- Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:22 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Better bargrills? (SCA specific)
- Replies: 23
- Views: 49
I've been interested for a couple of years in this kind of design feature, in the hope that it could make the bargrill better integrated with the historical outline of a visored bascinet -- square stock and all -- to achieve the... Barbeque-face bascinet! (It's a grilled pig, you see...) But I still...
- Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:02 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Leather Armour Patterns
- Replies: 1
- Views: 12
- Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:59 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Clang's latest completed work (pics)
- Replies: 24
- Views: 30
- Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:51 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: armour-in
- Replies: 3
- Views: 8
- Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:48 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: blued helmets... and other bits
- Replies: 1
- Views: 19
I'd say seek your proof in the manuscript illuminations dating from the 14th century onward -- those illos showing whole battlefields full of dark armor may be meant to depict blued armor. Eventually, by the late 16th century, we have at least one famous suit that is indisputably blued, and a handso...
- Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:37 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: SCA legal chapel-de-fer?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 30
- Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:15 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: what should i do?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 18
Building "an awesome suit of armor" is probably going to take you five to seven years in any case -- to make awesome armor, you are going to have to put in some time learning how! To shorten the learning process, one early-on investment should be in Price's TOMAR. Fifty-three bux from Amazon isn't h...
- Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:39 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: maille arms
- Replies: 5
- Views: 15
There are some variations on circular yokes or "mantle-top shirts." A completely circular yoke like a big metal doily works well, or one can make the yoke more oval, in a racetrack shape, by building it with straight, unexpanded rectangles of mail front and back. Master Knuut likes this approach in ...
- Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:55 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Rust, rust and more rust...
- Replies: 14
- Views: 21
Renaissance Wax, Otto. Pricey, effective, beloved of museum curators. Superb for storage, exhibition, or tourney prizes. Somebody who doesn't want to spend about ten bucks a tube can get much the same result with a high-end auto paste wax with plenty of carnauba in its mix; the more carnauba the bet...
- Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:50 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: depleted uranium armour?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 28
DU is primarily U-238. It is very depleted in U-235, hence the name -- although it does have some left. U-238 isn't ferociously radioactive with its halflife being about the age of the Earth. Alpha decay, which is no problem outside of you, but bites back if you ingest any. ------------------ "The M...
- Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:37 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: GreatHelm theory
- Replies: 21
- Views: 37
- Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:41 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: shield help
- Replies: 4
- Views: 16
A lot will depend on how heavy you want your shield to be. Some people endorse rimming the shield first and then gluing the canvas facing down overall, thereby making a shield that doesn't look like a shield that's had heater hose grafted onto its edge. The critical area of the shield is less the ce...
- Sun Jun 08, 2003 11:45 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: armor question
- Replies: 11
- Views: 13
Buy Price's Techniques of Medieval Armor Reproduction: the Fourteenth Century, "TOMAR" for short, fifty-three bucks from Amazon.com, read it through several times, then build 14th-c. harness. This will give you the metalworking, metalbending experience to attempt the fancier 15th-c. stuff, which bui...
- Fri Jun 06, 2003 11:31 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Les Objets de la vie domestique
- Replies: 2
- Views: 7
Though the results will be spotty, Swordsmith: Babelfish and like programs aren't very good at choosing which of several meanings a word is intended to convey. The software seems literally to go word by word, without reference to any concept that has gone before, or to context. I'm pretty middlin' o...
- Fri Jun 06, 2003 11:21 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Fall of Constantinople - pics
- Replies: 22
- Views: 25
- Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:04 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Mace construction Idea
- Replies: 3
- Views: 14
- Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:46 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: A Corrazine Breastplate.
- Replies: 3
- Views: 30
- Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:39 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Making your own rivets
- Replies: 9
- Views: 16
Clipped nail heads make good small rivets. Of course, you end up wondering what you might accomplish with all those nail shafts. One, they make good flush rivets, a method not unknown even in period armoring, but rather rare as they were inclined to use it only for specialized purposes. Okay, now wh...
- Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:38 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: On chanmail for beginners
- Replies: 7
- Views: 18

