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- Thu Feb 06, 2003 12:38 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: DISHING BLOCK
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10
- Thu Feb 06, 2003 12:30 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Expansion Maille help needed.
- Replies: 6
- Views: 10
Oh, yeah, that. Thought it sounded familiar. In a weird kind of way, I sort of like the mantle-type idea. The reason I think "Darkover" when I imagine this is Marion Zimmer Bradley's describing a native-made cloak as "odd." Large dags, too, even... hmm. Strictly auxiliary, though. And still quite ma...
- Thu Feb 06, 2003 12:07 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: New guy in need of advice/help!
- Replies: 9
- Views: 14
I'd vote for spaudlers for a first project, as step one for an arm harness. The dishing/raising is there, but it is not as deep as an elbow couter would be. So I think you'd make better elbows with the additional experience. Go ahead and make simple small four-piece spauds, shoulder cop and three fa...
- Wed Feb 05, 2003 11:50 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Bascinet Klapp Visor
- Replies: 5
- Views: 21
- Wed Feb 05, 2003 11:43 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: ring closure and cutting
- Replies: 15
- Views: 12
- Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:01 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Expansion Maille help needed.
- Replies: 6
- Views: 10
A contraction is just an expansion turned upside down. Trevor's site shows that. Personally, I still think making a cloak of mail is utter madness: it combines the weight of three hauberks with the bodily protection of, oh, about a bishop's-mantle. Now if somebody really really really wanted to swan...
- Wed Feb 05, 2003 5:40 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: ring closure and cutting
- Replies: 15
- Views: 12
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by wants to be an armourer: aside from that i cant close the rings correctly anyone got any ideas? </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> So how are they coming out wrong? The handiest way to o...
- Tue Feb 04, 2003 12:25 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Would like to make plate armor or whatever you call it
- Replies: 12
- Views: 20
Hokay: on to a tool list. You can get started on kinda not much. However, doing really jazzy stuff takes not only experience in bending, cutting, and hammering metal, but also quite a battery of specialized stakes, custom hammers, grinding and polishing gear. A total shop runs to quite a sum. Fortun...
- Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:40 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: "Best" Mail Rings for SCA?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 21
I make a point (heh) of lining up the >< cut link ends face to face, rather than point to point, accepting a slightly out of round link to do that. Less of a concern in heavy gauge wire, especially if you can persuade the points to lie a bit off center as you cut the links. I like to think that make...
- Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:30 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: ring closure and cutting
- Replies: 15
- Views: 12
- Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:24 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Spring steel chainmail ?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8
- Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:21 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Accidentally cool
- Replies: 14
- Views: 18
- Mon Feb 03, 2003 5:22 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: ways to cut metal besides a beverly shear
- Replies: 8
- Views: 11
- Mon Feb 03, 2003 5:07 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: "Best" Mail Rings for SCA?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 21
Joaquin overstates the case a bit, but riveted does confer bragging rights -- of the "I've got the longest attention span in this Barony!" kind. It'll be lighter than butted, too. No need for mass and thickness. There are SCAdians who fight in mail, over an arming pourpoint, and with the required ki...
- Mon Feb 03, 2003 4:44 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: ring closure and cutting
- Replies: 15
- Views: 12
I haven't found any pliers with a cutter in the throat that I would care to use for link cutting. A simple plier isn't powerful enough. I use either large end nippers, known as farriers' nippers, or bolt cutters, of the exact model illustrated above. Use only mini bolties whose jaws' cutting edges m...
- Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:48 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Braies D'Acier...
- Replies: 18
- Views: 13
- Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:38 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Who Makes These?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7
- Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:31 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 4/1 - 6/1 for a hauberk...
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Pryrates: Over here (in England), I'm currently paying £2.16 per 35m of galvanised 16 guage. I really need to find new supplies... </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Quite so -- you are...
- Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:23 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 4/1 - 6/1 for a hauberk...
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10
I'm busily cutting, too, on a last-for-the-foreseeable-future butted mail project. My plain coils go click click click under my 350mm bolt cutters; my stretched coils have more of a ringing "snap snap snap" sound. I think the stretching out has hardened them a bit more so they ring when I pop them. ...
- Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:13 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: one peice elbows
- Replies: 2
- Views: 8
The SCA requires rigid protection (such as metal elbow cops) on elbows and knees. So they are not just common in the SCA, they are universal. Joints, indeed, need protection more than the middle of a limb does, as your upper arms and forearms are sheathed in muscle and thus have a degree of built-in...
- Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:08 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Cutting Stainless steel
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4
For on your body, plain mild steel is where it's at. Save stainless for later, since the stuff is trickier to work, weld, et cetera. Stainless does perform well -- you're just not at the right place on the learning curve for it -- you're not quite ready yet. You will be once you've done some few pie...
- Sat Feb 01, 2003 11:56 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: ways to cut metal besides a beverly shear
- Replies: 8
- Views: 11
For jigsawing or sabersawing metal, you must invest in C clamps and Vise-Grips, and you must build something to clamp the metal to. Some desperadoes have put metal on an anvil's edge and sheared it with a hammer and cold chisel, cutting right along the anvil's edge, but they report a horribly rough ...
- Sat Feb 01, 2003 11:43 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Would like to make plate armor or whatever you call it
- Replies: 12
- Views: 20
- Sat Feb 01, 2003 11:23 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Would like to make plate armor or whatever you call it
- Replies: 12
- Views: 20
- Sat Feb 01, 2003 11:16 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: how do you pull it of?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 10
- Sat Feb 01, 2003 12:05 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: in your opinion........?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 10
And while we are at it, let us maintain a distinction between "grieves" and "greaves." They may sound the same, but being "greaved deeply" usually means you are on the ground curled up and clutching your naughty-bits... perhaps even being "taunted a second time!" A classic addition of insult to inju...
- Fri Jan 31, 2003 11:57 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 4/1 - 6/1 for a hauberk...
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10
I'll second the notion of using e4:1 weave for the bulk of your shirt. If you are indeed simply mad for making use of a denser weave, try the next lighter wire gauge (usually about two guage numbers larger, e.g., 16 gauge for most of the shirt, 18 for the 8 in 1 edging), same internal diameter, and ...
- Fri Jan 31, 2003 11:43 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Would like to make plate armor or whatever you call it
- Replies: 12
- Views: 20
Step 0.5, forget you ever heard the phrase "plate mail;" it sets every reasonably serious student of arms and armor's teeth right on edge. An unfortunate coining of Victorian-era writers on arms and armor, it is now chiefly propagated through FRPGs that were written by people not themselves expert o...
- Tue Jan 28, 2003 12:52 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Mail Shirt Help
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6
Folds when you're standing upright? Are they vertical? That's outside my experience of mailshirts so far, as a too-large mailshirt more goes shapeless than falls into wrinkles. So, to look for a clue, let's check something: what is your chest measurement over your aketon, and what is the shirt's che...
- Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:17 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: skirt of plates
- Replies: 8
- Views: 28
Here now, Cerebus, not to ping on you, sir, but I think you are making excuses you shouldn't. A maille fauld is about the very easiest hip armor that there is, especially if you don't make it overly long. Mail always takes patience, yes, but you can shorten the number of days start to finish if you ...
- Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:00 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Mail Shirt Help
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sir Oswald: <B> I have noticed that when I put it on and lean forward, there is a fold of mail about a foot long that hangs out. I am pretty sure I know what the problem is: I ...
- Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:05 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How long should a waster last?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 10
- Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:57 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: rivets
- Replies: 9
- Views: 13
- Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:52 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Rivit holes in leather?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 8
The neatest of these solutions is still the Tandy or Leather Factory Mini and Maxi Punch sets. Locate the punch, hit it with the rawhide mallet (back the leather with something suitably soft like the rubber punching mat) and it will work for you forever. Remember to keep the punch tips honed. I've b...
- Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:43 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Welding Warning
- Replies: 34
- Views: 15
So, Evil, now is the time for you to find and read a book on welding, or spend a few hours talking to a professional welder. Most welding is done on plate, bar-, and round-stock steel more than 5mm thick. Welding on thinner sheet steel is a more delicate skill, using smaller torch tips (oxy-acetylen...

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