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- Fri Sep 27, 2002 12:11 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Brigandine
- Replies: 50
- Views: 107
Pav, the plates are riveted at the bottom and overlap upwards and inwards. This seems counterintuitive (you want 'em to shed blows like shingles shed rain, no?) until you put the brig on, and discover that the upward-overlapping plates have now been turned so they show a downward overlap to the outs...
- Fri Sep 27, 2002 11:59 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: coif question again....
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6
Since the forehead band is confusing you, why use it at all (as a band anyway)? Just keep building on the beanie but don't put any more expansion links in once the beanie is out to the corners of your head. With the rows being made non-expanded, you will be building a cylinder down to the base of yo...
- Wed Sep 25, 2002 4:53 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Cutting Steel
- Replies: 7
- Views: 10
- Wed Sep 25, 2002 4:51 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Leather Thickness
- Replies: 5
- Views: 9
- Wed Sep 25, 2002 1:20 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Problems nipping 3/16 doomed rivits.
- Replies: 14
- Views: 9
- Mon Sep 23, 2002 5:36 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Problem Setting Rivets
- Replies: 10
- Views: 15
Let's see -- and you are keeping your rivet shanks short enough so they will upset and pein over neatly, right? The amount of shaft that should be sticking out to pein down should be no more than one to one and a half times the shaft diameter. Cut the rivet shaft down with bolt cutters, if you need ...
- Sun Sep 22, 2002 10:58 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Rivets question?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 15
Or else put the flat heads on the inside, back them with an anvil horn or T stake, and use a rivet set to pein on the outside -- an approach I always liked for riveting inside deeply curved articles like helmets. It saves you having to do peining in such a confined space. ------------------ "The Min...
- Sun Sep 22, 2002 10:46 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Great Bascinet Construction
- Replies: 7
- Views: 12
- Sun Sep 22, 2002 10:42 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: pauldron help
- Replies: 5
- Views: 25
Or they would attach either by strap and buckle to the outer edges of a gorget (not the breastplate), or in later armours, snap on over a spring pin in the same location. The shoulder joint is a rather "floaty" and highly flexible joint. Pauldrons all swivel loosely from some point between mid-shoul...
- Fri Sep 20, 2002 10:43 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Latin Motto?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 31
- Fri Sep 20, 2002 10:36 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Armour/Weapons Stand
- Replies: 5
- Views: 25
And consider the armoire -- a large cupboard is just about the thing to store armor in. AAotMK shows us a piece of marquetry on p. 135 that shows (and may actually be) an armoire for storing armor in, and refers on the same page to a "harness barrel with a lock for the same and hay to truss the harn...
- Fri Sep 20, 2002 9:55 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Maille question
- Replies: 30
- Views: 14
An even better description of a wedge rivet is: it's a teeny tiny metal pizza slice. And Waaagh, you flatten wire with a hammer on an anvil/A-S-O. All of my flattening gets done to the coiled links. An initial flattening sets up the link for overlapping; final flattening occurs when the overlap is f...
- Fri Sep 20, 2002 9:41 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Riveted mail
- Replies: 7
- Views: 19
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pavlovsdog: <B>I wish I could do riveted maille. but no open flames at college. why am I even at college? it hinders me so much in the area of armoury... </B></font><HR></BLOCK...
- Fri Sep 20, 2002 9:17 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: My armour wont rust. WTF
- Replies: 11
- Views: 14
- Fri Sep 20, 2002 9:11 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Alright, pick this apart, tell me what's wrong...
- Replies: 13
- Views: 24
Three-piece knees, perhaps three-piece elbows as well. This will mean considerable dishing of the in-the-cop parts of the lames. Were your limbs plate, a fourth piece articulating to the cuisse a good handspan above the upper lame. Decorative dagging on CoP hem, but not so froufrou as to do flamed d...
- Wed Sep 18, 2002 6:28 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Groin protection?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 22
Well, Gilbert, considering the chancy things that can happen, and the instances of cup-cracking accidents recounted hereabouts, I'd say your choice is this: do you wanna be authentic, or do you wanna be fertile? Your hope of future generations rides in that cup, as a general rule. Personally, I wear...
- Wed Sep 18, 2002 5:54 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: You give a kid a choce....
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8
- Wed Sep 18, 2002 5:50 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Tuchuks
- Replies: 26
- Views: 26
The thing that struck me about the 'Chux when I encountered them at some long-ago (sub-XX) Pennsics was that their armor seemed designed to "dress for the weather" -- they showed more skin than the SCAdians. I get the impression from here that their basic color scheme had shifted over time, also. Wh...
- Wed Sep 18, 2002 5:24 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Cheap bar grill helmets
- Replies: 20
- Views: 15
Square-cornered barrel helms need to be built heavy; their mass reduces the neck-jacking effect. Like all SCA helms, they will get most of their dents and creases on the shieldside temple. If there is one plate on a 5-piece barrel helm that ought to be the heaviest, it is the forehead plate. -------...
- Wed Sep 18, 2002 3:42 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: You give a kid a choce....
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8
- Wed Sep 18, 2002 3:16 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: My new Crusader Hat!
- Replies: 21
- Views: 109
- Wed Sep 18, 2002 3:06 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Maille question
- Replies: 30
- Views: 14
- Wed Sep 18, 2002 2:55 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Spine protection in a Churburg...
- Replies: 3
- Views: 13
The Pistoia Cathedral's silver altarpiece of c. 1376 has a snazzy-looking solution to just this problem, Wulfgar. It's illustrated in AAotMK, p.75, the bottom right hand picture. It's a tapering series of downward-overlapping plates that descend to at least mid-back, over what looks to be a leather ...
- Wed Sep 18, 2002 2:36 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Shield Guage?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 10
1/8" thick 6061 T6 aluminum is extremely durable, with a weight approximately that of a plywood shield especially once you get the rimming on. Cover the face with glued-down leather or canvas, painted or colored according to your taste and device; cover the back with canvas. Some clever authenticity...
- Mon Sep 16, 2002 10:44 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Aventail Help
- Replies: 5
- Views: 12
Oh, okay; I didn't know you had a fixed bargrill. Mine is hinged, so attaching a camail directly to it is a non-starter. I am obliged to use a more strictly period technique. It certainly looks as if you should indeed have set the rings closer together; remember that camails attached to helmets and ...
- Mon Sep 16, 2002 10:32 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Maille question
- Replies: 30
- Views: 14
Hjalmr, if you rivet the 18ga-3/8" stuff, you will do just fine. It will be a strong shirt. You'll be building your own Steve of Forth Castle shirt, in fact. Or is it a De Liebaart? He specifies using 18ga. That size is about what I've settled on for riveted links, too: initial diameter 7/16", overl...
- Mon Sep 16, 2002 10:11 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: armor on a smaller scale
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7
Historically, armor was nearer to 20-22 gauge anyway, for plate that wasn't covering something critical. Then it got thicker. The thing about stainless steel is that it looks like nothing but stainless steel unless it gets toasted over coals or blasted with a torch. Stainless also is stiffer than co...
- Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:18 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How to articulate a shoulder when the lames overlap...
- Replies: 10
- Views: 23
I think the rivets around the edge of the left pauldron are decorative, and the rivets a couple-three centimeters outboard of the edge are the articulating ones, and I think they work on leathers -- note the rather loose fit of the articulated lames there. On the equivalent part of the right spaudle...
- Sat Sep 14, 2002 9:36 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Remember Hugo?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 29
- Sat Sep 14, 2002 9:33 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Maille question
- Replies: 30
- Views: 14
- Sat Sep 14, 2002 9:16 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Aventail Help
- Replies: 5
- Views: 12
Kenneth, also remember not to have too much of your aventail's inner edge in front of your bascinet's face opening. Stretch it fairly tight there, and sew in the links quite tightly bunched into your camail strap (might as well call it that; I don't think anyone has actually come up with an authorit...
- Sat Sep 14, 2002 3:15 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: How common was...
- Replies: 9
- Views: 20
- Sat Sep 14, 2002 3:11 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: "Mail Call" gets it wrong
- Replies: 42
- Views: 56
Pronounce it like the baby-washing article, always. The logic of the meaning turns out to be identical: either is derived from "small basin." The helmet thus called gets even more obvious when one looks at the early, underhelm forms: the cerveillières. I am ever so glad someone went and looked the ...
- Sat Sep 14, 2002 2:49 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Etching - What if.. thoughts etc
- Replies: 19
- Views: 15
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Signo: Keep attention to esalations! Use it on open air . . . </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I think by this Signo means "Beware of the vapors/fumes." Does one "keep" attention in It...
- Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:07 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: shield dimensions
- Replies: 4
- Views: 9
