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by Diglach Mac Cein
Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:41 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Musashi - Five Rings - Which Version
Replies: 9
Views: 218

Thing to remember is that in most translations, it is "word for word", or as close as they can get. This isn't necessarily a good thing, as many of the word and term used don't mean the same thing from Japanese to English, especially when talking about philosophy, which is much of what Boo...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:22 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

Boy, this topic has wandered off the chart, huh? Thust tips are legal for the SCA. For those who are so inclined, either by skill set, desire, or persona - leave them off, or on. Unless the SEM gets a real bug in his bonnet about them, I don't see them going away by mandate. But you could always mak...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:45 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

Wrong kind of slider. The one you refer to (A tube held in the lead hand on a 2 nanded spear) is used to make a spear "faster" - kind of like a pool cue. The one I described would allow someone to change position of the hand guard - since it is a single hand weapon, I doubt you could use t...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:25 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: Windrose Armoury: Seeking Shield Input
Replies: 23
Views: 586

Roll all the edges and call it the "Blanken****ld Series."

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by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

Having talked ot a couple of old-guard fighters, I've heard that one reason the lower leg was made illegal as a target was because nearly all fights ended with both fighters on the ground - Fighter A gets legged, throws a "grass-cutter" as he goes down, Fighter B goes down.... Probably got...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

LOL. I can understand! I tell people that the time period I portray (5thc Ireland/Arturian Age) requires a certain amount of "speculative archeology". All we have to go on are stories written several hundred years after the fact - usually handed down from oral tradition. It makes you to wo...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:12 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

What about the account of Murrough MacBrian using a sword in each hand at Clontarf?
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:54 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

OK... By the way, just to re-iterate, I don't use the madu, and fully understand and agree that it wasn't a weapon found in the use of nobility and / or the warrior class. I could cut some slack to the guy who rigs up a SINGLE point spear with a sliding buckler/handguard as an option to a guantlet. ...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:24 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

But does that mean those of us who are concerned with history, and the use of such in an SCA context should abandon the slow push? I firmly believe in the "Murdoch" effect, aka. show off and others will follow, but at some point, we have to accept the fact that people will abuse rules, an...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:09 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

Face thrusts are lighter - but according to the conventions of combat, strikes should be lighter than to the body also. But thrusts to the body are not required to be lighter. The only extra "saftey" is really the padded nature of the thust tip. Also, nothing in the SCA rules defines that ...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:00 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

You are right, when talking about a horn weapon. But if a guy is holding a sword or a short spear one handed, and delivers a thrust? Still cheesy? Or, are we assuming any single handed weapon use only to thrust = madu? In regards to the shield, I understand the financial and safety need for them to ...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:18 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

You're assuming the olny thrusts are to the face. Body thrusts need to be with a certain amount of power, right? So if a fighter can thrust with enough force to score a body kill, it is less "cheesey"? And if using a weapon that is by design or use taking advantage of the SCA rules (like f...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:10 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: I MUST have this sword!
Replies: 8
Views: 451

They should also make a viking sword with Bluetooth...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:21 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: I MUST have this sword!
Replies: 8
Views: 451

Now THAT'S a singing sword.
by Diglach Mac Cein
Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:54 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: To Block, or Not to Block...that is the Question!
Replies: 55
Views: 897

I think the rule at Pennsic is that a shield HAS to be controlled by a HAND, or it is "armor". Guys used to fight with a spear and a shield guied off one shoulder. Then the rule came into play, and some added a "hand strap"over the lead hand. Not horribly effective. But they wat ...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:46 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Battle Schedule for Pennsic
Replies: 65
Views: 1595

If you can't get enough fighting at Pennsic, you're not trying.....
by Diglach Mac Cein
Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:21 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

OK, so what makes a madu a madu?

The buckler? A basket hilt? 2 points?

What about the polearm guy with a butt-spike and a buckler on his finger gauntlets?
by Diglach Mac Cein
Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:10 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

LOL!!!

OK, I SWEAR I will put that on one of my short spears....

"The Spork of Doom"

I can see it now, a weapon of legend....

Excalibur
The Gae Bulga
William Tell's Crossbow
The SPORK OF DOOOOOOM!
by Diglach Mac Cein
Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:05 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

Alaric - By the same point, if two weapon and madu type weaponry do not make hte SCA better becuase they "game" what we do - artifically affecting results like aluminium bats and spaghetti rackets - what about modern sports equipment like lacrosse/hockey elbows, plastic (even if HIDDEN) cr...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:22 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

HERESY!!!

If it was written, painted, sculpted in the 14thc, it MUST be factual!

Everything else is a myth!!! A myth I say!

Though I might be myth-taken...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:58 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

The fectbuchs teach that such a fight would likely end in a grapple or a bind, and while we don't allow grappling in SCA combat there are still other things that we could do. Boy, too bad the SCA isn't a fectbuch group.... And maybe the guys on the video didn't WANT to shield snatch or press. There...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:58 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Lanyards, butterfly straps and triggers
Replies: 27
Views: 770

I can see some need in some tourneys - especially some of the indoor sites used around my area. Not a lot of space, and someone losing a weapon mid-swing could be bad for a spectator. At a big open field like Pennsic? For the vast majority of the time (unless the fighting gets right up on the sideli...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:53 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: How are these flutes put in the top of a helm?
Replies: 50
Views: 1577

I know a local Duke who will flute a helm for free - WHILE you wear it!
by Diglach Mac Cein
Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:32 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

Really? I know there are stories / sagas referencing shields with sharp edges, but I don't recall one with points.

Huh.
by Diglach Mac Cein
Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:25 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

LOL!!!

Did I say I used one?

Single hand spear..... Fraema, short spear, javelin, etc. etc.....
by Diglach Mac Cein
Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:58 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

Sigh... OK,I'm REALLY not trying to argue, just continuing an interesting conversation. Really. Lets apply this to Madu.... Here's my exceuse for doing what I do: I mainly fight with two sticks. I can honestly admit that it is not a weapon combo that a medieval knight might use. Why do I use it then...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:45 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Marking on Leather
Replies: 6
Views: 115

I case the leather and use a round point stylus, and make a light a mark as I can - usually works well enough if I HAVE to use the grain side.

On the flesh side, I never worried about it, to be honest. I've used ball point, a fine point sharpie, even a charcoal pencil.
by Diglach Mac Cein
Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:35 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

QFT Animal. Personally, as long as my opponent is honorable, a good guy and honestly trying to have as much fun as I am, I really don't sweat the little stuff that much. And a guy with a pointy one handed stick call it a madu becuase within the SCA it is "common nomenclature" (like Jello, ...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:41 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

At some level, isn't everyone participating the in SCA is taking part in fantasy, every bit as much as the Tuchux, Dagorhir (sp) and the other groups? Your fantasy just isn't meshing with someone else's. So either withdraw from any fight against a person using a "madu", or consider them a ...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:19 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

But, I still don't see why we should accept something that increasingly strikes the populace as silly just because "We've always done it that way". There are other options. Does it? I doubt that the AA is representative enough of the SCA fighting community as a whole. I doubt a reasonable...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:12 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

Well, I fight sword or short axe and short spear / stablin / fraema as a matched style becuase it is a really fun fight!

I plan on making 2 small square shields to fight matched shields and short spears too....
by Diglach Mac Cein
Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:23 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

I know!

Let's NOT call them madus, UNLESS the person using it was Indian.

Call them estocs, short spears, or "long stick with a sharp point".


I mean, not every poll-axe was a poll-axe, right?
by Diglach Mac Cein
Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:16 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

It's a nice kit- but I wasn't commenting on it. I was commenting on your game. Um... You ever play the Tuchux game? There isn't a whole lot of difference between it and the SCA, except.. 1) They don't have as many rules regarding grappling, target areas, etc... 2) They apparently don't let the shap...
by Diglach Mac Cein
Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:29 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

Never had a guy with a madu, single hand spear or estoc or other "single hand thrust only weapon" complain about how hard they had to thrust to the leg or body - no more than any other fighter using any other weapon.

I must be luckier than most.
by Diglach Mac Cein
Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:37 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Madu's- The end all thread to vent or encourage
Replies: 443
Views: 9691

You don't see a lot of "proper" madus in the Middle, but you'll see some sword and spear fighters. Like any other weapon style, it's the guy holding the weapon that is dangerous. The whole "rush 'em and throw wraps and offsides" tactic people have espoused frankly will work again...

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