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Diglach Mac Cein

And ditto again....

I email the armorer, no response as of yet...

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Made out of rattan? Wow - Not in the Midrealm. Single hand spears, yeah - but if it is SUPPOSED to go flying? Nope. More an more of us are playing with them. The trick to throwing them is really the gauntlet. Hard to throw "clean" with clamshells - REALLY hard with hockey gloves. I've foun...

Diglach Mac Cein

In the Midrealm at least, ANY polearm or other great weapon lacking sufficient flex can be disallowed from the list.

So if the 2" thik polearm is too stiff, it won't pass.

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Problem with laminated blades is that they nearly always (in my experience) make a weapon too stiff - which is why they were originally banned. Apparently this rule has been lifted at the Society level, but in the Midrealm it is still against the rules - Now I could see if the "lamination" was over ...

Diglach Mac Cein

Damn - that is a freaking big oversight IMO.

I've seen some lunkheads out there try to use some insane weapons (usually maces and polearms) - I'm going to make sure if it is still in the Midrealm Handbook.

Diglach Mac Cein

That's been the problem I've seen - to make one that LOOKS like the real deal, you usually end up basically making a mace with only one "flange" out of foam (remeber, no laminated swords). Now Duke Comar had a NICE one, carved from a piece of EDR (Elephant dick rattan). The rattan was nearly 4" wide...

Diglach Mac Cein

My bad - I wasn't clear on what I meant.

Diglach Mac Cein

Rhys -

I see your point, but I wasn't intending to speak only about determining the winner of a bout or a tourney. A fighter can beat 25 guys and win a spiffy prize - and still be judged by everyone who watches him fight.

For good or ill - isn't that reknown and fame as well?

Diglach Mac Cein

Bingo V. There are those groups/individuals who have the capability to force fundemental change in SCA combat by force. If the right person or group starts saying "We will only take blows at X+1 power, everyone else adjust to us" - eventually it will happen. But then someone says "Nope - now it is X...

Diglach Mac Cein

Rhys - Yep, we're talking SCA. And since the people posting on Armour Archive represent a miniscule percentage percentage of FIGHTERS, let alone people who attend events, discussions like this should at least take into account this fact - regardless of your opinion of how those people's knowledge, m...

Diglach Mac Cein

In period I agree Rhys - but what about the SCA?

Like it our not, we as fighters are watched AND judged by those on the sidelines - other fighters, ladies, casual observers. And IMO it would arrogant, if not foolish, to totally dismiss them.

Diglach Mac Cein

But wait... That assumes that the 2 warriors in question CARE about the opinion of those watching, doesn't it? Seems that the popular belief put forth here is that the opinion of anyone NOT in the armor being struck doesn't matter, as they are either in a poor position to judge, not knowledgeable en...

Diglach Mac Cein

VERY well said Sir Vitus. Success in the SCA can be a very seductive thing - Like being a rock star or a superstar athlete in our little world. Not only recognition and symbols of respect, but to have people not only emulate your behavior and ideals? What an ego boost that is. And very dangerous. Di...

Diglach Mac Cein

Someone in my shire is looking for finger gauntlet - she is a small fighter though, with small hands.

Anyone out there interested?

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

"There is only one true way...."

Diglach Mac Cein

OK Your Grace, just for the sake of discussion..... In perdiod, there is at least one example of a weapon made to resemble a "non-weapon" - a mace made to look like a fist, IIRC> So we got a Grand Melee where all weapons are required to be disguised as something that is NOT a weapon! I know, I know....

Diglach Mac Cein

LOL! Well, why didn't you just say that to start with?

Never mind then!

Dante della Luna wrote:I was trying to keep the example simple...

I'm just gonna go back to my "I'm right, and you're wrong" theory.

Diglach Mac Cein

I see your point, I'm just not getting my shorts in a twist about it. If I knew ahead of time that was how that particular game of checkers was going to be played, I wouldn't play. Or maybe I would, if that's what I wanted to do - under the rules that were agreed on to start with. But to a degree, t...

Diglach Mac Cein

Not poking fun at anyone, or any activity. I guess I'm not so easily offended. If I see a tourney or acticivty I don't want to do, I don't go. Bar fights aren't really my cup of tea, so I don't do them (I can only think of one that happens with any regularity in the Midrealm, did it a few times, hav...

Diglach Mac Cein

I guess I just don't see it as some horrible affront to the SCA.... If they choose to run a bar fight, it is one "fight" (I've never seen a "winner" declared in an SCA bar fight) in a day, in all the tournies in all of the SCA. It is just goofy fun. We're adults dressing up in suits of armor and pla...

Diglach Mac Cein

arent there plenty of d&d larp groups out there for this type of silly crap? whats this got to do with a medieval tourney held in a court in medieval europe? logan Or choosing rulers through tournament combat? It's different, some people just want to have a little bit of silly fun. No harm, IMO. Th...

Diglach Mac Cein

Of course, he could have avoided THAT by just blocking....

Dilan

(Hey....Thorfin want a pork chop?)

Diglach Mac Cein

Sweet! Very nice!

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

I might know someone not on AA who would be interested -

Please contact me via PM.

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Quite a few guys in my neck of the woods used a guige (sp?) strapped shield and a spear back in the mid to late 1980s. More than a couple got pretty good with it. About that same time, you saw the "mudflap" shields, designed to keep hooks off. When Pennsic went to the "shield must be controlled by h...

Diglach Mac Cein

Man, we have a ton of new fighters in my neck of the woods... 5 authorized last April, 5 more new ones are training, and 2 more are seriously looking at jumping in! Each of them are bringing a friend with them. Frankly, we don't have enough loaner gear, so some of our experienced fighters end up loa...

Diglach Mac Cein

Yup! Wear 'em, love them!

And tape with metal in it (like aluminum duct tape) is not allowed because of it's propensity to flake and send little bits of metal flying -

And this isn't BS - I ended up wearing an eye patch for several weeks becuase of this very thing....

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Johnathon - Finger gauntlets have been legal in the Mid for a while now - lots of people use them including the former KEM Palymar - heck, I'm pretty sure a couple of people in Cleftlands have them! If they are decent construction and either ground on the weapon and/or have some padding (doesn't tak...

Diglach Mac Cein

Angus -

Do Darkmoon guys even HAVE shields?

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Wow - I haven't heard THAT term in a long time!

In fact, if anything, we've got more and more families and kids running around than ever!

Diglach Mac Cein

Football, Rugby, tried Aussie Rules, boxed, a couple of other martial arts....

Tourney, melee - as long as I get to fight.

And yes, my sports background did help - especially at the start, compared to other new fighters with less athletic backgrounds.

Diglach Mac Cein

Ireland, nothing that I know of. The Tain talks of layers of shirts, then something that might be "waxed skins" and might be waxed linen...but then again the passage that describes this arming also describes the Hound hanging a millstone about his body for protection over all these layers. So I tak...

Diglach Mac Cein

Outside of helms, is there ANY armor?

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Very easy - and like metal, it would add strength, and some decoration. I find the "side thread" on early period armors very interesting.... Part of a quandry I'm STILL wrestling with - whether to make historically PLAUSIBLE armor for SCa combat, or go with hidden armor, since if it often accepted t...

Diglach Mac Cein

You can contact Sir Bran off the Midrealm Chivalry Website, or LegioDraconis - he has a nicely written ho-to on his version of this weapon -

Dilan

Looking for - finger Gauntlets for SMALL fighter