The Armour Archive

Diglach Mac Cein

Oh, absolutely Odo!

To me, a year or two of Mid and East as Allies would do wonders to revitalize Pennsic.

Especially to give an oportunity to get away from the same old / same old!

Diglach Mac Cein

Well, here was my idea for a "Loaded Pennsic War" Monday - Bridge Battle: 2/3, no res, last battle with CA/Seige *As soon as those battle are done, EVERYONE grabs 1 hay bay and takes it to the sidlelines - then.... Field Battle #1: Standard field battle rules Two mighty armies meet at a raging, deep...

Diglach Mac Cein

Too bad, that sounds like it would be fun to pull off!

Diglach Mac Cein

This is a pic from this year's Heroic Champions - I'm on the right -
Thanks to Ursus for the pic!

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

The Irish did quite a lot of raiding (and trading) in Britian in this period, didn't they?

Could have come across the armor and other gear that way, right?

Diglach Mac Cein

MOAB.

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

And I do appreciate it, really.

But this is for SCA combat, and I need to balance performance, appearance and my own skills/money/comfort.

but hey, I AM planning on getting rid of the plastic lamellar, so it isn't a TOTAL loss, is it?

Diglach Mac Cein

You know, I THINK I've seen information that some period shields were set up for BOTH center grip and strapped. (I could be really punchy from lack of sleep too).

I could see why you would do it too - using a round shield in a static wall or on foot is different than from horseback.

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

OK, thanks for the help everyone.... I'm really not planning on going with maille (for a variety of reasons), and was also trying to avoid the "naked fighter" look since it seems to generate a ton of complaints from later period / heavier armored fighters. BUT, it looks like what seems to be accepta...

Diglach Mac Cein

Animal -

You might be able to wet form and harden a leather handle like armor - I made one similar to that, sewing the grip area of the leather strap into a tube. I used a 12/14 oz leather, and it didn't move much at all when bolted on.

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

It's kind of disheartning to see a thread about Acts of Chivalry at Pennsic devolve again into "This guy/group/kingdom cheated". Let's face it - NO individual or group is going to go through Pennsic 100% clean. It just isn't going to happen. Guys I fought this year didn't take shots I thought were g...

Diglach Mac Cein

It doesn't look like I'm going to have a ton of luck in avoiding the "Naked Warrior" look, am I?

Dave - I really appreciate you help, BTW. I'll be the first one to admit my weaknesses in the SCA, and picking such an early period persona is part on such weak area...

Diglach Mac Cein

Cool info!

Would you guys think that maille under some sort of leather armor (scale, lamellar or even some sort of re-inforced tunic) would work? Still have the maille, with rigid protection over it. I could make some sort of lightly padded gambeson / crash vest underneath.

Diglach Mac Cein

Can you put me to a website for these?

I'm 6'2", and wear a 54 long jacket (former football player and boxer). Most of the ones I've found on-line are way too small.

Thanks!

Diglach Mac Cein

OK, now I'm either stepping out on a limb or smoking something, but let me give ti a shot.... I know that scale or lamellar could be done out of metal or leather, but what about horn? I know someone who works in carbon composites that THINKS he can get the material to look a lot like some polished h...

Diglach Mac Cein

Boy, if I though I could get away with the maille, I might. But I can't afford ready made rivited maille, or the kit to make one. maybe something similar with a leather scale or lamellar?

Would a solid leather breast and back plate be out of the question?

Just snowballin' here guys.....

Diglach Mac Cein

I was thinking along the same lines - maille, scale and lamellar. I was kind of curious if I was missing anything. I heard an interesting idea that the later period writings on early period warriors refered to them as "naked" or "unarmored" when compared to the warrior of the time of the writing (co...

Diglach Mac Cein

I assumed the arm and leg gear would be hidden - I was mostly concerned with the body armor. I know about the "wide belt" from the Tain, which covered CuChulaihn (sp) "from armpit to hips" sounds like a version of the rather common "Body bracelet" some fighters wearin the SCA. And I figured that the...

Diglach Mac Cein

I kind of figured that Dave, but I was looking to make something that would invoke the right "look", since the likely most historic gear wouldn't be horribly suitable for the SCA. Hidden gear would work I suppose, but I would prefer to have visible armour of some sort. I really feel it should be pos...

Diglach Mac Cein

OK, I've been wearing the Noble Plastics Lamellar for about 3 years now, and while I really like it in terms of appearance and performance, it's time for a change. (Or as my wife would put it - yep 3 years, he's changing his gear again...) I know that there is limited info on armor from the time per...

Diglach Mac Cein

OK, I've been wearing the Noble Plastics Lamellar for about 3 years now, and while I really like it in terms of appearance and performance, it's time for a change. (Or as my wife would put it - yep 3 years, he's changing his gear again...) I know that there is limited info on armor from the time per...

Diglach Mac Cein

Personally, I really like the emotions that many of the photos that Ursus and Darter take capture. To me, it makes them much better in terms of capturing the "flavor" of the SCA than even some living history quality kits that you see.

The SCA is about the PEOPLE, first and foremost.

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Absolutley. At the risk of sounding like I'm making an excuse for losing.... IMO, Winning or losing Pennsic is not as important as the PROCESS of Pennsic, as far as fighting is concerned. 500+ guys on EACH SIDE, all (OK for the MOST PART) following the same code. Knowing that the opponent across fro...

Diglach Mac Cein

Try, fail, try, fail, try, fail not as bad, try, improve, try, improve -

Repeated a LOT until I got it right.

Diglach Mac Cein

Will you take orders no for delivery at Pennsic? 1/2 up front if need be would be no problem!

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

My experience with Waldryk has always been exceptional. Decent communication, and a darn near bullet-proof helm!

I have ordered 3 from him, and at least 5 other people I know are VERY happy with the Waldryk helms they own.

Very high reccomendation.

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Maybe he acquired it leagally?

Diglach Mac Cein

I think it will be way too difficult to pull off realisticly on larger peieces (like arms, legs, and body) without investing in some major work - like metal professionaly airbrushed to look right. Even then there is a lot of upkeep. For something like a gorget, it would work until the leather discol...

Diglach Mac Cein

Contact the local group!

You are living in one of the BEST areas of the Midrealm for training, armoring, etc.....

I can all but gaurantee that those folks can armor you for a HECK of a lot less that $600 - including helm - and it will look a LOT better!

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Duke Sir Edmund defeated Sir Lutr in single combat to place his Lady Duchess Kateryn upn the Midrealm Throne -

Congratulations to his soon-to-be Highness and Duchess Kateryn!

Diglach Mac Cein

Oh, you should have heard the VICTIM afterward!

"No thank you, I'll stand for now...."

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Didn't happen to ME (thank God), but I saw it, and it CAN be confirmed... Melee, one of my squire brothers who lives in another Barony was running a flank and ran into another squire brother and Duke Comar. Our victim gets legged by Comar, and the squire on Comar's flank almost immediately lands a g...

Diglach Mac Cein

Olaf Haraldson wrote:I think if you have the skill to make baskets to match a valsgarde helm, you have the skill to make gauntlets...

Neither of which are period for many personas - so how is one worse than the other?

Diglach Mac Cein

Remember, the opinions here on AA are by NO means the majority in the SCA -

While SOME folks here advocate cross hilts and gauntlets, others here don't - so there isn't 100% agreement here!

Dilan

Diglach Mac Cein

Wielding mozzarella sticks...

This is a pretty gouda thread!

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