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- Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:13 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 16th century LH groups?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 61
I'll have to make mine and go with him. Are you making a Janet Arnold specific outfit? I want to do the 1580s Italian, the first in the patterns section of her book. I am thinking red and gold. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flo...
- Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:03 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 16th century LH groups?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 61
It is an expensive era to be a noble living up to LH standards. LH standards will requires silk, costly shoes, a $600 plus sword, and jewelry. Beyond that problem no one and I mean no one makes accurately made garb for the era. Ren/SCA 16th century stuff is accurate to a Jordan novel not the actual ...
- Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:44 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Arguements for authenticity (or why we do this in the first
- Replies: 21
- Views: 15
Hmmm Battle of Towton
Flonzy
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Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
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- Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:12 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: A cure for severe "photo envy"!
- Replies: 25
- Views: 28
Gwen That tent kicks ass. For a tent that is so common in the 15th century it seems odd that no tent maker carries them as a normal item. I guess they are not as appealing to the general public as a square or circular tent is. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http://h...
- Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:06 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Good fabric or farb?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 25
Wool melton is good if it is not worsted. Plus watch out for it being 100%, most sites have 80% wool 20% polyester melton.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
- Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:59 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Michaelmass pics
- Replies: 5
- Views: 10
Sweet. I am going to try and get mine up tonight.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
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Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
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- Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:01 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: tunics in the M-bible
- Replies: 3
- Views: 9
I have never bought into the split tunic at all. It makes since for maille because that is tighter fitting but tunics have big gores that make them 120 inches or more at the hem. Looking at the Maj Bible book I have, and having seen it at the museum twice last year I would say go with large gores. F...
- Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:31 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Good fabric or farb?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 25
I know that crepe is not until late 15th C at best. I don't know if jacquard is out for those eras but the pattern in the jacquard is most likely not period. I can't say for sure but the 1st and 3rd look possible, but I normally just use fulled tabby woven wool for pre 14th C. I have not found anyth...
- Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:13 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Advice on Pavillion Purchase
- Replies: 27
- Views: 52
Just for you guys talking about losing room in a round I got a story for you. At Michealmas (Pastonpolooza II) this last weekend it rained like crazy so we all huddled into my new 18 foot round with the slant walls for our feast Saturday night. We got all 28 adults and 3 kids into it and had some ro...
- Thu Sep 11, 2003 7:16 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by justmagnus: <B> I generally stay clear of this discussion but no one else grabbed it and I can't let it go by. Using your arguement hooks should never be thrown, only jabs. The...
- Thu Sep 11, 2003 3:31 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
Wow did we ever go off topic 
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
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Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
- Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:18 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: One Year Project: Transition to Accurate Kit
- Replies: 11
- Views: 27
Jehan While WoR may be the most popular LH era in the USA there is a 14th century groups who may be the best middle ages LH group in the states: http://www.labelle.org/ A warning though. Winterfell is thinking of joining and Jeff J is in the group and they have extremely tight rules on what you can ...
- Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:17 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
Marshal that's totally cool, it's just what I would do if we could rework it from the ground up http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif . I just makes since to me. I also am into total realism or as far as you can get it and the SCA has lots of room to improve the realism in its combat system. Fl...
- Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:51 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
Well think of it this way a hook punch is not a fast as a jab and that's my point 
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
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Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
- Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:33 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mordreth: <B>[QUOTE]I do have to agree that this would be easier in person than it is on line. That being said most of the offensive moves / counters that you mention (shield p...
- Thu Sep 11, 2003 7:15 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
DWolfhunter Explain to me how changing the assumed armor standard excludes anyone? The current armor standard does not exclude anyone. It's assumed not required. It only changes how we take hits and adds realism to the sword play through the methods I laid out, how is that unchivalrous? You don't ha...
- Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:00 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
Tessa We are not commoners in the SCA we are all suppose to be nobles at tournament. As I stated earlier I would switch the standard to plate because maille era tournaments were horse back tournies not foot tourneys to the best of current knowledge. Assumed armor standards now are maille over a gamb...
- Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:13 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
tessa It's not about what you wear but what our armor level is assumed to be. Now under the rules we are assumed to be 11th c with chain and a nasle helm, I would use the standard of plate and chain as the assumed armor and people would not be required to actully wear it. Flonzy ------------------ C...
- Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:53 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
Mordreth & Maelgwyn I guess the hard part is the online factor, if we were face to face with SCA gear and blunted swords we could mess around and I think I could get my point across to you. Mordreth While you make good points about where it lands compared to the shield and you are talking about bein...
- Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:44 am
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Advice on Pavillion Purchase
- Replies: 27
- Views: 52
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Steve -SoFC-: <B>Could you elaborate on this statement? It seems to have a contradiction that may be a typo - I can't tell. On one hand it seems to say that owners who convert ...
- Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:06 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Feast Gear Spiff (SCA-ish)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 39
It's expensive but here is what my 15th C group approves of for gentlemen: http://www.billyandcharlie.com/misc.html (They also have a bowl not on the page yet) http://www.historicenterprises.com has ceramics that are fantastic plus they sell many other items Billy and Charlie don't have yet. I am no...
- Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:55 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mordreth: <B> So to quote a friend of mine (earl Horic) Maybe the effin helm would hold Maybe the effin mail would hold but I don't think the effin cervical vertibrae would hol...
- Tue Sep 09, 2003 3:53 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
I am sure being hit in maille with a arming cote on too is going to hurt like hell, maybe even break something but Steve's test on his riveted maille shows that it is damn hard to break cut through. What did he break 2 rings and bend 12? And before I hear about smashing a helm on a fence post or a p...
- Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:16 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Advice on Pavillion Purchase
- Replies: 27
- Views: 52
Personal experience I have had is that round pavilions work the best. I used 2 rounds and 2 marquee styles. Both marquees had sagging issues that turn into leaking issues if it rains. Also the marquee has issues with keeping the ropes holding the 4 corners up it the ground is wet. Also I talked to b...
- Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:44 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Color on Pavillions
- Replies: 13
- Views: 14
I'm with Chef, got mine all white to paint it. I considered red or blue instead of white with the intent to paint that also but then several people warned me that colors raised the temperature of the tent in the sun and because I intend to use t year round I went with white. Also I don't have dags, ...
- Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:39 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: authentic medieval banners
- Replies: 11
- Views: 21
http://gallery.euroweb.hu/
Look up what era you want and skim through the paintings until you see battles or St George or something like that where you will see flags.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
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Look up what era you want and skim through the paintings until you see battles or St George or something like that where you will see flags.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
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- Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:27 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: New Period Style Boots
- Replies: 6
- Views: 20
They look real decent on the field and they do have a rubber sole. I know several guys who use them and like them. I have a pair from http://www.revivalclothing.com/ and I know others who got these too and so far I slipped in them 1 time. As you said they don't work for LH but are much better lookin...
- Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:01 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: 14th century velvet covered armor besides a corazzina?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 47
Bill The corazzina was a cut up breastplate with fauld. There is a breastplate with faulds with no split in it that is put together with velvet that is pictured in Arms and Armor of the Medieval Knight. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http://home.armourarchive.org/me...
- Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:53 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Confession time: I used a madu on friday/ Question about buc
- Replies: 8
- Views: 12
You are allowed to put a buckler on your oppositions arm as long as you are going for a block not a punch. I do it all the time. Now you cannot hit in the body or helm with it. Also if you do buckler remember to keep you sword and buckler together. It gives better coverage, when you strike it helps ...
- Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:47 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mordreth: <B>************************************** Yes - but you're playing a different game, skullcap with mail drape does not equal "hardened metal armor" We're not going to...
- Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:37 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
Mordreth That’s exactly what I mean. It hits more to the back so I call it the back of the head. (BTW I am in Atlantia) Not sure how many of you guys use bucklers but I do, I still get wrapped in the leg when using one but it cuts down the body and head wraps to almost nothing because I am almost ...
- Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:17 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA:What would you like to see in a Pas?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 23
I liked the rules under As Real Men Fought. Combine that with a minimum standard of armor to wear such as: Arms: Splinted, full metal, or full chain with arming coat over it or under it depending on are you want. Legs: Splinted, full metal, or chain with cloth upper legs and require demi or full gre...
- Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:34 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Heairn: <B> They don't? Never been hit with an inside thigh wrap have you? Yeah.. Wrap shots DO hurt. ..and can be made to hurt as much or more as any other shot. Malcolm </B><...
- Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:23 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jester: <B> For the first, half-swording, I disagree. If half-swording is allowed then it would be perfectly acceptable to strike your opponent with the portion of the blade be...
- Mon Sep 08, 2003 8:12 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: How would YOU change the SCA combat rules if you could?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 59
I like armor as worn rules, it would encourage people to get better armor. Realistic list: Add halfswording. There is no good argument against it. Lose the wrap shot. If grappling and armor were a factor the wrap shot would be useless. It will not penetrate real armor nor will you hit me with it whe...