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- Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:43 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Plastic is it really that much cheaper?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 41
Well I have to admit I can't beat free like Fearghus has suggested. Benalishlancer you can by splinted armor for about $100 more than I am making it. I am making it so it looks nice, many cheap pieces of armor looks cheap. Jareth you don't need a whole shop to make the kit I am. The only thing you n...
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:00 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Plastic is it really that much cheaper?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 41
Plastic is it really that much cheaper?
I keep seeing post claiming that plastic is so good because it is so cheap. I sat down and worked the numbers on the gear I am putting together and this is what I got. Note I am making this myself in someone else’s shop and it is not 100% historical but it is closer than many SCA kits and just my ...
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:42 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: My take on the plastic isse (nauseatingly long... sorry)
- Replies: 62
- Views: 70
Effingham the problem is you are showing the 1% of plastic. Many plastic pieces including Japanese and other lamellar armors look like crap. Noble Plastics keeps coming up here is a picture: http://www.armourarchive.org/images/brotherguido.com__armor-front_small1.jpg (this image is from www.brotherg...
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:02 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Simple Polymer Poll
- Replies: 52
- Views: 14
Yes 100% Yes
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
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Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:06 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Thickness of Armour vs. Mobility
- Replies: 12
- Views: 12
I find the problem is my gauntlets. The wrist articulation is usually one piece covering from the back of the hand to the wrist piece, it is too big and digs into my hand when I use high guards with my greatsword and one hand is bending back far. I need to fork out some big bucks and get batter gaun...
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:51 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Is steel safer than plastic?
- Replies: 130
- Views: 118
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:20 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:17 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: It's Not Viking ! It's just Cr*p !
- Replies: 26
- Views: 51
Goes perfect with my horned helm and fur leggings 
The artwork is nice.
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
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[This message has been edited by flonzy (edited 02-27-2003).]

The artwork is nice.
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
[This message has been edited by flonzy (edited 02-27-2003).]
- Wed Feb 26, 2003 8:57 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Is steel safer than plastic?
- Replies: 130
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dark Victory Armory: <B>Real World Test #2: The hammer test A piece of barrel plastic armor will withstand far more abuse from a ball peen hammer than the same piece in steel, ...
- Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:20 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Is steel safer than plastic?
- Replies: 130
- Views: 118
For strength I give no opinion but for heat I submit this. Wearing plastic heat builds up faster and traps itself worst than with metal. Plastic is an insulator and metal a conductor so metal is only as hot as its environment while plastic will trap and amplify heat. So in the summer plastic is far ...
- Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:28 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Trouble with Armor Works?????
- Replies: 44
- Views: 656
- Wed Feb 26, 2003 8:42 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: exposed plastic clarification
- Replies: 79
- Views: 31
- Wed Feb 26, 2003 8:33 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
Erik I thank you for your help I have one last thing to get your opinion on. The shape of the leather for the cuisse. Was it the same shape as the English legs with a wrap plate (sorry I don't know the technical term) only a little bigger for the splints? If so was the wrap plate cut as one piece wi...
- Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:08 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: exposed plastic clarification
- Replies: 79
- Views: 31
I am for the no visible plastic rule. Maybe a list of alternatives like painting the armor would help. Otherwise don't give into the whiners.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
- Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:52 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
Gilbert I could add your photos to my site and give you the credit if you like. I had not seen that link and I thank you for it. That site looks vary helpful. Erik You nailed what I am going for exactly. I have a few more questions. Thought the upper cannon and elbow cop very rare what do the few sh...
- Tue Feb 25, 2003 1:19 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
- Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:46 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14th Century German Armor
- Replies: 26
- Views: 73
14th Century German Armor
I know this topic has come up several times but I have a new round of questions. I am looking to make as accurate armor from the 1360s as possible. I don't know a great deal about armor so any help you could give me is vastly appreciated. First I have questions on splinted legs. I under stand that t...
- Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:47 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Atlantia No Visible Plastic Rule?
- Replies: 124
- Views: 53
You could cover up your whole upper body with a jupon over your armor and replace plastic legs with leather ones. I don't see why this is so hard. Painting is not hard either. We have until September to get ready. Hell I am covering up modern parts any way because I don't want to look like an idiot ...
- Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:15 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Small tent pattern wanted
- Replies: 5
- Views: 13
- Thu Feb 20, 2003 4:17 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] bans historic swordsmanship
- Replies: 67
- Views: 46
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dukelogan: <B>but to suggest that hwma sparring at half speed with choreographed moves will teach someone how to engage in "real" sword combat is not realistic. if you do not t...
- Thu Feb 20, 2003 4:04 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] bans historic swordsmanship
- Replies: 67
- Views: 46
- Thu Feb 20, 2003 3:25 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] bans historic swordsmanship
- Replies: 67
- Views: 46
Duke Logan many HWMA groups spar. Some even use full suits of armor and rebated steel. The SCA is a fun game but does not teach realistic sword technique. You cannot teach the physics of real sword combat with a round object that has no edge to turn on armor. The SCA has developed it's own combat sy...
- Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:42 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [SCA] bans historic swordsmanship
- Replies: 67
- Views: 46
We have the same problem here to. The SCA has a problem with us using wasters even though we are not sparing with them. Makes no since to me.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
- Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:26 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Brigandine columns
- Replies: 19
- Views: 30
Richard this question was about the historical aspects of the brigandine not speculation. As frustrated as you are by Chef's comments towards your post Chef was equally frustrated by the post. This section is specifically here for historical research when you answer with you don't support doing it o...
- Wed Feb 19, 2003 7:26 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Sweat pants, jeans, hose, leggings, etc...
- Replies: 29
- Views: 34
I am a bit of a garb nazi so I only wear wool or linen hosen. Light wool, jersey wool or linen feels fine in the warmer weather and is far better than cotton jeans or cotton anything. Sweat pants are the pits. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http://home.armourarchive...
- Fri Feb 14, 2003 1:17 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Black vs. Blue Denim
- Replies: 20
- Views: 14
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by lyonnete: <B> Is the jersey weave more documentable? (Might as well make the right choice before cutting!) Regards, Lyonnete</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> No in fact Kass was tal...
- Fri Feb 14, 2003 11:31 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Black vs. Blue Denim
- Replies: 20
- Views: 14
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evanr: <B>I've been think of making some hose for some time now but i just have a few questions wheil you are on the topic. Is the wool itchy? and what is the best kind for mak...
- Fri Feb 14, 2003 10:56 am
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Cm'on! Lets see some CHEAP armour!
- Replies: 51
- Views: 49
- Fri Feb 14, 2003 10:38 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Persona in a Box (New Message Board)
- Replies: 12
- Views: 13
JT
That works for me. I could explain how to SCA up my Norman Kit.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
That works for me. I could explain how to SCA up my Norman Kit.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
- Fri Feb 14, 2003 10:03 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Black vs. Blue Denim
- Replies: 20
- Views: 14
Lyonnete What kind of material are you using for your hosen? I used Wool Jersey and it is stretchy, I had to take my pattern in some because of its stretchiness. I used the pattern in the medieval tailors assistant and it turned out well for me. Here is a picture: http://home.armourarchive.org/membe...
- Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:15 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: mail shirt
- Replies: 20
- Views: 20
I don't see how SCA combat could possibly bust one of Steve’s links if properly set. I have handle one of his shirts and it is amazing how light and strong they are. Check out his test on what a real sword does to his links. He wrote this "None of the rings were sheared. No rivets failed. Some rin...
- Thu Feb 13, 2003 2:47 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Tear it up!
- Replies: 17
- Views: 23
Quite frankly it is awesome. The articulation looks fantastic in your video and the edges and lines look crisp. The only comments I can make are add a period fan to the elbow and a proper thumb plate attached by a proper hinge and it would be vary historical. This is not to say your work isn't amazi...
- Thu Feb 13, 2003 2:31 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Persona in a Box (New Message Board)
- Replies: 12
- Views: 13
It's not that part Matt it is the SCA part. Guthrothr and my kits are for living history and do not have SCA safety features. My Norman kit is a soft kit including turnshoes, maille, a helm, a proper sword belt, and a shield. No bargrills knee and elbow cops and such. If your requirements were not S...
- Thu Feb 13, 2003 1:12 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Persona in a Box (New Message Board)
- Replies: 12
- Views: 13
I could do a Norman kit like Guthrothr's Saxon and Viking ideas right now too. I kinda have one here http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/garb11thcentury.html
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
- Thu Feb 13, 2003 1:07 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Looking for a Barbute
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5
There are 2 listed here http://www.thadenarmory.com
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
