The Armour Archive

James B.

You should be good if it's linen. I will take some photos of some points tonight if my digital can get that close without blurring.

Flonzy

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James B.

I would point them if you feel the aketon can withstand the pressure. Is the shell cotton or linen? I am willing to do that to my linen aketon (I use canvas weight linen) but if you feel yours is to light weight a material I would not. If you want to point the best thing to do is place the holes in ...

James B.

Steve's reply is great. I would also like to add that people who try testing maille find that butted maille can't stand up to a real sword, axe, polearm, or arrow. If you are willing to put your own shirt together you can make a riveted shirt for around $350 including the tools from Steve's website....

James B.

"What group do you fight in?"

I do historical western martial arts with a group called MASHS, Tang Soo Do, and I am in the SCA.

"Why do you fight?"

MASHS teaches me real sword fighting, Tang Soo Do self defense and discipline, and the SCA is fun.

"When did you start fighting (age)?â€

James B.

Your Majesty Thanks for the confirmation on the no visible plastic rule. I am glad we have taken this step. I don't think the SCA needs to be a living history group but visible plastic detracts so much from the field. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http://home.armou...

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Lion du Fay: I don't see what you guys have a problem with. It's a fun design for those who collect oddities like this. There is nothing wrong with it, and you all are being...

James B.

A Black Price style Jupon will cover your torso and arms. Could be wearing hockey pads and no one will know.

Flonzy

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James B.

Great I can start my Dwarf ninja persona!

Flonzy

James B.

Great idea Matt. I am working on something just like this right now. I am building a historically accurate looking 1250s kit for SCA combat. I hope to be done in the next 2 months and I will add an essay about it to this new section. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. h...

James B.

Historically speaking there is no known manual on fighting with two swords until the 16th century but that is rapier fighting that involves mostly stabbing and cutting unarmored persons. I am sure there are good SCA references out there. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armo...

James B.

Got some pics?

Flonzy

James B.

Now that we are talking about blunts here is my suggestions. Use high quality blunts like Del Tin or a European maker, even the practical sword from Paul Chen is nice (and only $80) but for the love of God do not use starfire or Museum reps swords. They are too heavy and will destroy your armor far ...

James B.

Wear armor as it was intended. They knew what they were doing back then. You can't go the cheap road and be safe. You need a proper arming jacket for your body and arms. You need maille to cover the gaps (go with riveted). Training before sparing is good too. My local HWMA group discourages sparing ...

James B.

Did the leather wrap all the way around? Also what kind of knees were used and how did they attach?

Thanks
Flonzy

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by eroyce: Aren't SCA guantlets oversized on the sides so that the metal is resting on the rattan to protect the hands? At least that's always how I've had them. *shrug* But th...

James B.

Sorry if I was a little too general about SCA armories. There are many fine SCA only armories. I have yet to find gauntlets that I like but that may just be me. Again the price for high-end gauntlets is not cheap SCA maker or not and I don't think $350 is high for the quality. Now if you look at hel...

James B.

I really like that close helm.

Flonzy

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James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by eroyce: Keep in mind the exchange rate. Right now it's 1 USD = 30 CZK. So that set of gauntlets (R2.2) are really nice but they are also $300 USD without shipping and in mil...

James B.

I have asked many people about ring shirts for rattan combat in the SCA. The big reason that most people dislike it is because of the weight and the repair it needs. The fighters I have talked to mostly wear 16g 3/8 rings and have to repair it every 6 or 7 times it is used. If you want your kit to l...

James B.

Kyra what time era are you looking to do this for?

Flonzy

James B.

Historic Enterprises has the nicest sallets for a reasonable price. http://www.historicenterprises.com/haa/available.html Illusions are nice too. I have tried on their German 1 piece tail sallet with a bevor and it is nice. http://www.illusionarmoring.com/ Thaden armory has done some nice looking on...

James B.

Here is my non SCA 1066 Norman outfit http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/images/garbnorman/full/kivfullkit3.jpg

Flonzy

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James B.

I don't know if they ever lined their shoes with anything but for myself I have a pair of split hosen to go over my full hosen and they have a full feet on them. Also a pair of patten keeps your foot off the ground. Your feet are a major area of heat loss in the body just like your head. I wore peri...

James B.

Wade I should have been more clear in my post. Walters removed most of their armor and made the area were it stood into a cafe. There is only one full suit left and a few pieces in a case. There is a ton of medieval art there still. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. ht...

James B.

JaminLeather.com

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by wcallen: If patrick is listening - you could add the Walters Art Gallery in Baltimore. they actually have some nice pieces. I don't know what the display looks like..... Wad...

James B.

Anders what era are these bucklers from? The one you guys made looks amazing!

Flonzy

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James B.

Well unlike the sca the knights of the middle ages wore long chain hauberks, chain skirts, or codpieces depending on the era. Even with a hauberk on I would wear a cup.

Flonzy

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James B.

The living history groups and osprey books seem to agree that the coif would be attached and that a maille square with leather edges would serve as a reinforcement on the chest or would tie up to cover the mouth and nose during battle like you see on the Bayeaux tapestry. Flonzy ------------------ C...

James B.

I have worn several in a non-combat situation. I think they are fine for one on one but will never be as good as the bargrill for peripheral vision in mass combat. The whole thing is in real life armor protected you from blows, in the SCA its just safety equipment to prevent broken limbs. Personally...

James B.

Sir Mons

I would like to check out the Janet Arnold pattern too if you could email it to me.

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Flonzy

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James B.

Try these: http://twinrocker.com/sfiber2.htm http://www.earthguild.com/products/spinning/spnatfib.htm Raw cotton is also good to use. You can usually get a good price for raw cotton from a local upholstery shop. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http://home.armourarchi...

James B.

Hal I found Egfroth's site vary helpful when I made my kit last year. I have a break down of my kit here http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/garb11thcentury.html Hope that helps Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy

James B.

Gwen about how many inches extra did you make the aketon to have room to quilt it? I an about to make a pourpoint and want to make sure I don't make it to big or small.

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Flonzy

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James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Owen: You know, it's actually funny to see these two statements together! Keep looking, you should be able to find drapery weight velvet. Backing it with canvas is a good i...