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James B.

I have upholstery velvet in a light gray blue or a gray green. It has the rubber backing on it. I could take pictures this weekend if you are interested in buying some. I have a ton of it.

Flonzy

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James B.

Wulfgar I think Egfroth is right you seem to be making a 1295 to 1330 kit. It all sounds good to me except you are talking about an aketon if your arming cote is for under the maille, gambesons go over maille. I am doing 1250 Maj bible myself and to pass SCA standards I am attaching the shoulder and...

James B.

Hinrich I have not made that style of shoe but one thing I always do is try out the pattern with a stiff cloth like canvas to make sure that the shoe will fit on my foot. Have not made a small pair in leather yet. Hope that helps. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http...

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Russ Mitchell: Flonzy: close, but not quite. The difference is that as research has brought out more information, the general direction of understanding has changed away from m...

James B.

I would not call Mr. Clements a hack, he was the beginning. Every book that has come out the author makes new discoveries after his book is out and wishes they could change their book. I do not own the book because I find the info a little dated and some of it is his ideas not historical (he points ...

James B.

Actually I was thinking of the god awful one with DMX and Jet Lee in it. I forgot the name but it was his first US made movie. I didn't realize how over used this was.

Flonzy

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James B.

Tim just wanted to say that outfit kicks ass. That jack looks really good.

Flonzy

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James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by WalMart Warrior: Wow! You know Jackie Chan! I LOVE his movies!!! WMW ________________ <SING!> "Everybody was Kung-fu fighting...."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That was a Jet...

James B.

I'm with Depths_of_Mind depends, but sound like a cool project.

Flonzy

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James B.

I think pointing the legs to your arming cote would work better than the belt method.

Here is an example http://freepages.hobbies.rootsweb.com/~draccyning/armingpage2.htm

Flonzy

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James B.

Since beginners are welcome I am going to try and make it.

What would be a good first try project?

Flonzy

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James B.

LFord thanks for the links. I found a few new sites I had not seen. One of the German sites had some nice photos. Wulfgar I am trying to be Nazi about it so I think I will go with the armoured surcoat http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif . Raymund thanks for pointing out the guy with the curie...

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by sedric: I like the leather idea, I was looking for some kind of skirt that would be period. I've tried chain and it weighed me down too much. Leather would be beter for me....

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jean Paul de Sens: Hmmm... what about crushing blows.. maces polearms? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well the arms are not that thick to start with, but the 20+ layers on the body a...

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jean Paul de Sens: So has anyone actually made one of these? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Some of the guys in the living history group I am in have. I saw one being made. They piec...

James B.

Evil_Merlin is right it was worn as armor. Most were made of layers of linen (in the range of 20 layers) some had tarred elk skin in the center to strengthen them. Some depictions show chain worn under a thin jack. Some depictions show a breastplate over a jack, but I have not seen a backplate in th...

James B.

I get linen from www.fabrics-store.com all the time. It has desent prices and good quality.

Flonzy

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James B.

Sersem Thanks, This is the kind of CoP I was thinking of doing, but with out the long cloth because I plan on wearing a period surcoat over it like you see in the Maciejowski Bible. My plans for my legs is to wear linen chausses with armored chausses over them. The armored chausses will be linen wit...

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ULTRAGOTHA: It depends even more on the method of sewing. When sewing linen all seams MUST be double-sewn so no frayed edge shows. Flat feld or french seams. You can't just...

James B.

Cotton has one advantage, you can put it in a washing machine and it is fine. Linen has to be really well finished or washed by hand because the weave will fray apart vary easily. As for durability and keeping a person cool linen is better. Except for the fraying problem linen is vary strong and thi...

James B.

Ted

2 questions. 1? Are people woho have never done any armor but really want to try welcome? 2) Where in WVA are you?

Thanks
Flonzy

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James B.

I have seen paintings and effigies representing coat of plate defense for this era but what did it look like in its layout? I am putting a 1250-60s outfit together for SCA heavy combat and want to use a coat of plates to prevent needing a modern kidney belt. My body and leg defense is going to be ch...

James B.

I do everything except LARPs right now. I would do a LARP with no magic system if I had time. I do boffer in one group but its not a LARP. Iam in the SCA, I do 15th century living history (well I am getting ready for my first event), I am in another group like the SCA that my friends created, I went...

James B.

http://www.woodbows.com/ this guy has a good product, its not too expensive, and gives a 90% accurate look to a period long bow.

Flonzy

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James B.

I have handled best armours gear it's real nice. I have never seen it in SCA use though, if thats what you are looking for.

Flonzy

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James B.

Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in. I agree with the guys in the beginning of the thread that evidence points to wearing no padded gear in the 6th century, but because we want you to be able to go to work Monday you should make an aketon. Here are my observations on arming cotes. 1.) Never, ne...

James B.

My cloak for my 1066 outfit is just 2 yards of 60 inch wide wool. I pin it at the shoulder. Works good in the cold.

Flonzy

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James B.

One thinks CA is dishonorable and the other thinks that way of thinking is dishonorable, who is right? Matter of opinion. What do you care if he finds you dishonorable? Does it make that much of a difference? Some people think I don't know a thing about swordplay because I have dised the SCA style o...

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Hushgirl: But is it all right for them to tell me my actions are dishonorable if I don't find them so? I have had people tell me I'm dishonorable for many reasons (I'm monogamo...

James B.

Hush I think the problem with your question is that Honor and Chivalry are like a pizza, no 2 people have the same idea on what toppings to get http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif . If this is about embracing the rules do to your playing on the field and discouraging fighters from deviating t...

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Cedric: #1 Suppose you're in a melee and an archer shoots an arrow at you and by some stroke of luck you catch the arrow. What should you do with it? -- I have a friend that...

James B.

See dead horse. See dead horse lay dead. Flog the dead horse, flog him. This is going nowhere. Vermin and Hushgirl what is the point of this argument, you are not effecting the rules or each others view point. We keep circling the same stupid arguments about CA and get nowhere. Flonzy --------------...

James B.

Vermin I agree that the SCA CA rules make the arrow a magic weapon, but they make single-handed swords magic and shields indestructible too. Lets face it SCA rules do not treat armor in a realistic fashion. Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http://home.armourarchive.or...

James B.

Well it would suck for most SCAdians with the sports armor with all the exposed areas. Those with metal armor will look like a car after a hailstorm http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif . Flonzy ------------------ Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flo...

James B.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Xander: Isn't zinc plating and galvanising the same thing? Xander<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Is it? I have no idea. I have seen ring shirts listed as one or the other. Flon...

Coat of Plates 1250 to 1260?