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- Sun Mar 31, 2002 11:34 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: ok...why do some folks dislike Wars and siege engines, etc..
- Replies: 81
- Views: 34
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dagisd: I don't think that simply on the basis that we can't beat our opponents to death, as would be authentic to a true war, that we can't re-create a war *scenario. </font><...
- Sun Mar 31, 2002 11:19 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Strapping and padding an elbow(SCA)
- Replies: 15
- Views: 16
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by freiman the minstrel: I have noticed, however, that there is some kind of "pressure point" on the inside of the elbow that my strap presses against. It makes my fingers not wan...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 10:30 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Strapping and padding an elbow(SCA)
- Replies: 15
- Views: 16
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Klangiron Skullthumpa: If it were up to me I'd wear a full gambesion. Howeversince I live in central Louisiana I'd probably overheat before I made it onto the field. With our h...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:32 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Strapping and padding an elbow(SCA)
- Replies: 15
- Views: 16
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chef de chambre: Sir Rhys is absolutely 100% correct. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> LOL! Oh my god, the devil must be wearing ice skates... ------------------ Hugh Knight "Welcome t...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 2:54 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: ok...why do some folks dislike Wars and siege engines, etc..
- Replies: 81
- Views: 34
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by White Mountain Armoury: I disagree that we should not try, dont call it a war, still call it a tourney, but modify the rules to be all inclusive. I think banning scenarios that...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 2:46 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Strapping and padding an elbow(SCA)
- Replies: 15
- Views: 16
Whatever anyone tells you, a strap across the inside of the elbow is *essential* to make the armor work right. As for padding, you *have* to wear a quilted foundation garment anyway; not wearing that is the reason half the SCAdians don't understand why their arm harnesses flop around, so that should...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 12:00 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: ok...why do some folks dislike Wars and siege engines, etc..
- Replies: 81
- Views: 34
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DanNV: It all comes down to what you like and what you envision the SCA to be. Some people would rather turn it into their vision than allow multiple visions to coexist. </font...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 11:58 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: ok...why do some folks dislike Wars and siege engines, etc..
- Replies: 81
- Views: 34
It's not that we don't want wars "any more", it's that we've *never* done wars (even when people *called* them wars because they didn't know any better), and can't do a good simulation of war, so we shouldn't really bother. In period wars and tournaments looked much alike in general form: Armored me...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 11:39 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pas Theme
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Vitus: <B>Whenever I have sponsored barrier combats, they were proposed to simulate the type of fighting done over siege barriers. -V</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> And that's OK,...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 11:36 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pas Theme
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brodir: Sry Rhys, would you email me that word document as well if you get a moment? </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Sent. ------------------ Hugh Knight "Welcome to the Church of the...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 11:32 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pas Theme
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FrauHirsch: There are plenty of historical examples where prowess is not the only criteria and that is the model we intend on using. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Can you supply som...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 2:13 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pas Theme
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FrauHirsch: I have to work in running some kind of list where there is a single victor. I'm open to suggestions. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That's easy; a committee of the tenans...
- Sat Mar 30, 2002 12:14 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Asymetrical armor?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 33
A lot of late-period armor was at least partially asymetrical, especially if intended for specialized purposes. "Pieces of Exchange" were often added to a standard harness for different kinds of combat; for example, a large, ehavy plate could be bolted over the left side to protect against lances in...
- Fri Mar 29, 2002 9:39 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Everybody talks about changing the rules......
- Replies: 21
- Views: 11
First, determinate marshalling is an obscenity and is disgusting since the entire *point* of our fighting is to create a test of honor; if we no longer require a man to judge his own blows he loses that chance to prove his honor. Second, only the man in the helm can judge the blow 95% of the time, a...
- Fri Mar 29, 2002 9:25 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Pas Theme
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FrauHirsch: I am looking for theme ideas for a Pas d' Armes. This is for the first event of our new Archduchy in Adria where I and my husband will be crowned Duke and Duchess. ...
- Fri Mar 29, 2002 12:00 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SECRETS OF GERMAN MEDIEVAL SWORDSMANSHIP IN STOCK!!
- Replies: 14
- Views: 11
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by brianprice: <B>Rhys, Actually, you selected "Priority Mail", and you item was shipped on time. Here is the delivery confirmation tracking number: </B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> B...
- Thu Mar 28, 2002 8:32 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Gambeson cloth
- Replies: 6
- Views: 35
HI, The garment worn *under* an hauberk would more correctly be called and "aketon"; "gambeson" was more often used as a word for a quilted garment worn *over* mail (see the garments in the Mac Bible). Aketon is a European derivitave of the Arabic word(s) "al haqueton" (meaning cotton, I'm told), an...
- Thu Mar 28, 2002 8:28 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SECRETS OF GERMAN MEDIEVAL SWORDSMANSHIP IN STOCK!!
- Replies: 14
- Views: 11
Brian, would you please check on my order? I paid for faster delivery, but I haven't seen my copy yet, and I'd hate to discover my order had "fallen through the cracks". Thank you very much. ------------------ Hugh Knight "Welcome to the Church of the Open Field, let us 'prey': Hunt hard, kill swift...
- Thu Mar 28, 2002 8:25 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Greatest Medieval Master the contest
- Replies: 12
- Views: 76
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chef de chambre: Why do you think the saddle vault apocryphal? </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Because it was so rarely mentioned. <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> The tent peggi...
- Wed Mar 27, 2002 11:12 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Greatest Medieval Master the contest
- Replies: 12
- Views: 76
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bascot: 2) With a lance, at a gallop, stick a tent peg and pull it out of the ground without it falling off. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Where did you get this one? <font face="Ve...
- Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:55 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Are these leather polyens?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 14
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Torr of Mercia: <B>Whats the deal with the seam in the coif that is around his brow line? a second chain cap over the first coif maybe? -T</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I suspect...
- Mon Mar 25, 2002 3:16 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Consistancy
- Replies: 26
- Views: 13
The East used to be one of the few kingdoms who used a close-face rule, and I was one of the ones who pushed hard for that. It takes a lot more skill to land a hard blow than a light one (note I said to *land* a hard blow), and I'd prefer to encourage wins by highly-skilled fighters, not by lucky sh...
- Mon Mar 25, 2002 12:02 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Best material to use for plate
- Replies: 4
- Views: 16
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Alcyoneus: What I want to know is, what is the closest commercially available modern material to replicate material available in period for the production of plate armor. </fon...
- Sun Mar 24, 2002 9:39 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting in simple knee-cops?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 24
I'm a big man, and on my Crecy-period harness I wear simple poleyns over gamboissed cuisses and I've had no problems whatsoever (and I don't even wear knee pads). ------------------ Hugh Knight "Welcome to the Church of the Open Field, let us 'prey': Hunt hard, kill swiftly, waste nothing, make no a...
- Sun Mar 24, 2002 7:11 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Which Wisby coat?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 16
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rustysickle: <B>I think it was the other way around. 15th cent Brigadines for example started out with larger plates. 16th cent brigadines on the other hand had plates that are...
- Sun Mar 24, 2002 7:03 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Who here was involved in the beginnings of a tourney company
- Replies: 3
- Views: 8
Hello, I was one of the four founders of the Company of St. Michael the Defender. Our original members were Sir Hrothgar of Farley, Sir Manfred von Halstern, Sir Albrecht von Halstern and me. The original intent of our organization was to limit membership in our company to members of the SCAs order ...
- Fri Mar 22, 2002 9:35 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Do these instructions sound like a period 14th cent aketon?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FrauHirsch: And wouldn't we expect there to be wear marks, especially with this kind of fancy fabric? </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I hate to admit it, but I simply have never seen ...
- Fri Mar 22, 2002 8:09 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Hunting
- Replies: 29
- Views: 32
Boar Spears: I just found a site selling boar spears. The site is highly recommended by others (although I've never seen any of their products): http://www.ltspecpro.com/boarspearwit.html ------------------ Hugh Knight "Welcome to the Church of the Open Field, let us 'prey': Hunt hard, kill swiftly,...
- Fri Mar 22, 2002 7:54 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Do these instructions sound like a period 14th cent aketon?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Clermont: <B>Sir Rhys, I'm interested in the host of reasons the Charles of Blois pourpoint can't be classified as a military garment. I've read that it only appears quilted be...
- Fri Mar 22, 2002 7:40 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Aidan Cambel: <B>If plate was developed because maille was ineffective against the longbows, isn't that proof that the bows were effective? else the transition to plate would n...
- Fri Mar 22, 2002 10:47 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Winterfell: <B>Okay so if arrows were totally ineffective against full plate armour, then why were archers still used and why did they have long needle like armour peircing bod...
- Fri Mar 22, 2002 10:27 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sarnac: <B>Sir Rhys, See this is once again where we differ. I do not "wish it to be so", as you say. I am mearly willing to accept that it happened more often than not and do ...
- Fri Mar 22, 2002 10:21 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Vermin: <B> How about some archaeological evidence? Once the plate armor starts turning up with bodkin holes in it, then I'll believe. I can take the same quotes and come up wi...
- Fri Mar 22, 2002 10:18 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Aidan Cambel: <B>Ummm.. just a thought here... I keep hearing talk about arrows piercing plate, and its inability to do so, and how that relates to SCA combat archery. the SCA ...
- Fri Mar 22, 2002 1:13 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sieur Raymond: Whoops! Guns "drove" armour out of use *not* because they were particularly effective against it, but rather because it was [b]ALOT cheaper to train and outfit a...
