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- Thu Mar 21, 2002 11:38 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bascot: All of the experiments of archery against armour, including well-padded mail, that I have seen have show the arrows bouncing off. There was a special on the History cha...
- Thu Mar 21, 2002 11:30 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sarnac: <B>Sorry Rhys.... Its all about interpretation... I just dont see it that way... I cannot beleive that all those nobles died to hand to hand combat and no records were ...
- Thu Mar 21, 2002 11:27 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sebastian: <B>Well SyrRhys - And if you think that the damage to the French calvary, was done by anyone other than archers, you might want to consider the fact that the infantr...
- Thu Mar 21, 2002 9:28 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Do these instructions sound like a period 14th cent aketon?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Anradan MacEwan: <B> Ah, Yes, the "aketon" for under a CoP is what I am looking for. There are so many different terms for what, on the surface, seems like much the same thing....
- Thu Mar 21, 2002 9:10 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
Oh, and by the way, your friend's comments about the poor generalship on the English side are just silly. The first phase of the HYW demonstrated the *brilliance* of the English generalship by the way they chose ground carefully, made the most of the combined arms concepts E III perfected, and by th...
- Thu Mar 21, 2002 9:07 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: documentation of armour being defeated by arrows.
- Replies: 122
- Views: 77
Sorry, Steve, but none of the HYW references posted made any mention of the killing of knights being done by arrows. The Genoese crossbowmen were killed, yes, but there's every reason to believe they weren't as well armored as knights (though some may have been... presumably those whom the French ro...
- Wed Mar 20, 2002 11:46 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 13th cent. legs
- Replies: 8
- Views: 33
Greaves were among the first pieces of plate added to the harness. There are plenty of references to knights wearing greaves (schynbaldes, really) in the 13th century. See the Mathew Paris picture on the bottom of page 58 in Edge and Paddock, just as one example. ------------------ Hugh Knight "Welc...
- Wed Mar 20, 2002 10:42 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Do these instructions sound like a period 14th cent aketon?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Anradan MacEwan: I can't sew, so they are greek to me but I know people who would make sense of this. If the garmet described would qualify as period for the 14th century and w...
- Wed Mar 20, 2002 9:05 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: rope and chain weapons
- Replies: 22
- Views: 21
They are not legal anywhere in the SCA. The claim was that in the very old days a cord wrapped around someone's wrist and broke it. Personally, I suspect that story was just made up to justify the banning of these sorts of weapons the way many SCAdians make up lots of things that "went wrong" to pre...
- Wed Mar 20, 2002 9:01 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Honest Question: Why do other groups seem to disdain SCA com
- Replies: 46
- Views: 51
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Watt: [b]Take horses for example. Knights rode horses. That is what they did. That is what made them knights. If you point this out to someone in the SCA, they will retort with...
- Wed Mar 20, 2002 8:52 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Italian warrior's
- Replies: 11
- Views: 23
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Allanon: <B> Very good.i wasn't sure about that but thanks. so the Barbutes were in the 1500 but And were in the 1400. right? so it was in both time period's. very much thanked...
- Wed Mar 20, 2002 10:30 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA: Effectiveness of the 12 ft spear?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 9
We just started using them this fall, so I don't have much experience with them yet, but I went to a melee event where they were used pretty heavily and I can say this: They hit like tactical nukes! I don't think the force was quite excessive, but many people did (I'm at the very high end of calibra...
- Tue Mar 19, 2002 10:16 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Honest Question: Why do other groups seem to disdain SCA com
- Replies: 46
- Views: 51
All of what Richard said is certainly true, and we deserve to get beaten up over that. I think there's another component, however, and that's the desire some folks have of showing themselves to be the *real* martial artists, and doing that requires some of them to aggrandize themselves by putting us...
- Tue Mar 19, 2002 9:52 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Italian warrior's
- Replies: 11
- Views: 23
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Madoc Bluecloak: <B>Hey i have a question. what did the Italian warrior's wear in battle in the early 14'th century. i know they had barbutes but beyond that i'm stumpped. </B>...
- Tue Mar 19, 2002 7:36 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Grand Melee
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Asbjorn Johansen: <B>I want to finish off the Historic Combat Series with a Grand Melee on Saturday. I want it to have the feel of the chaotic display of prowess you see in the...
- Mon Mar 18, 2002 11:40 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting - other means
- Replies: 38
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Watt: <B>Good Sir Rhys: I must send up the white flag. I cannot compete with your rhetoric. Your posts in the thread have again and again stated: “I know what the truth is an...
- Mon Mar 18, 2002 4:44 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Hunting
- Replies: 29
- Views: 32
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Vitus: <B>Rhys- Nigel and I still want to come up and hang out for a weekend. -V</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hello my friend, You would both be welcome *any* time; please just ...
- Mon Mar 18, 2002 4:33 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Hunting
- Replies: 29
- Views: 32
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Rev. George: <B>Rhys...I think you missed the "flying squirrel dog" analogy... As I got it Basically, you train the crow to locate the downed critter... or maybe locate the liv...
- Mon Mar 18, 2002 4:28 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting - other means
- Replies: 38
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Watt: I agree with your point here but I still think the fallout would be bad for the SCA. I have heard many complain that Crown Lists do not have nearly enough fighters becaus...
- Mon Mar 18, 2002 4:21 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting - other means
- Replies: 38
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Watt: <B>I think part of the big problem here is the way we fight as opposed to the way they fought. In our brand of fighting, you just have to give somebody a bonk and they yi...
- Mon Mar 18, 2002 12:46 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Hunting
- Replies: 29
- Views: 32
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Einarr: Also to Sir Rhys -Ive heard of crows used to hunt squirrels ,kind of like a squirrell dogs with wings.Its not legal in indiana though,or i would like to try it. </font>...
- Mon Mar 18, 2002 8:35 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting - other means
- Replies: 38
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Syrus Leigh: <B>Syr Rhys, It was me who said I thought grappling in the sca would be somewhat unchivilrous, and I realize now I worded what I was trying to say in an entirely t...
- Sun Mar 17, 2002 9:37 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting - other means
- Replies: 38
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Murdock: <B>Your somewhat assuming that a 150 lb person is going to fight you the same way he'd fight another 150 lb person. You fight big havy people totally differently than ...
- Sun Mar 17, 2002 8:02 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Hunting
- Replies: 29
- Views: 32
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Syrus Leigh: I read the book a while back, and forget a lot without going to look at it. In the picture featuring hunting boars with a crossbow; is the hook on the belt used to...
- Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:28 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Sword and Helm for sale...
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Steve -SoFC-: <B>I am posting these items for a friend of mine. Please direct all inquiries to: wensdie@yahoo.com The sword is an Arms and Armour sword that normally sells for ...
- Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:14 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting - other means
- Replies: 38
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Watt: The fallout would be that many new and not very skilled fighters would simply quit fighting. It is one thing to get a quick bonk on the helmet and walk off the field. It ...
- Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:07 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting - other means
- Replies: 38
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Richard Blackmoore: <B>Rhys. Just a side question, is there any documentation to suggest how common grappling was in singles tournament and in tournament melee after being unho...
- Sun Mar 17, 2002 6:55 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting - other means
- Replies: 38
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Watt: As to the "grappling is period" arguement, what are you taking about, tournament or battlefield? Yes, on the battlefield, grappling was legal. So was every other unholy a...
- Sun Mar 17, 2002 2:17 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Hunting
- Replies: 29
- Views: 32
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Destichado: <B>Sir Rhys, I've been meaning to ask you about crossbows since a similar old thread on the weapons board. I'm in the early stages of planning a period Florida Boar...
- Sat Mar 16, 2002 11:38 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Hunting
- Replies: 29
- Views: 32
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Syrus Leigh: <B>Greeetings again, I've put in an order at my local library for several of the books you reccomended, and being lucky enough to have a great librarial system, th...
- Sat Mar 16, 2002 11:30 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: SCA fighting - other means
- Replies: 38
- Views: 24
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Richard Blackmoore: <B>I am pleased to beat Rhys to this one... NO! The whole point of SCA combat is that we are recreating medieval tournament combat, it is not a handicapped ...
- Fri Mar 15, 2002 11:29 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Medieval Hunting
- Replies: 29
- Views: 32
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Syrus Leigh: <B>Hello there, comrades! My friends and I have recently began period hunting trips, that probably aren't very period. Would anyone have some facts about garb, pac...
- Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:04 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Mac Great Helms For Sale
- Replies: 17
- Views: 16
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Otto von Teich: Hello Hugh, just wondering,what gauge steel will these be? They will have his armourers mark I presume? Thanks again for the "heads up"....Otto </font><HR></BLO...
- Thu Mar 14, 2002 8:14 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Mac Great Helms For Sale
- Replies: 17
- Views: 16
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cerdic: <B>I second the hourglass gauntlet request!! Those are so very nice... Who do we have to talk to to make a formal plea? http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif Cerdi...
- Thu Mar 14, 2002 8:10 pm
- Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
- Topic: Mac Great Helms For Sale
- Replies: 17
- Views: 16
Three helms are sold for sure, and one more person is checking to see if he can swing the finances, so these are going fast. Mac cut the helms out today and I punched about 10 million holes while he did the hammer thing. Tomorrow I finish punching holes and Mac finishes shaping, then we plan to star...
