The Armour Archive

SyrRhys

Okay, now this has BOATLOADS of merit (Rhys's objections aside). It would still allow archers to participate, it would encourage a more historic style of archery in the volley fire aspect (although I would still like to see slightly heavier poundage bows for both range and force of impact), and it ...

SyrRhys

My only thought on the 1" thick shield was that the bigger they were, the heavier they would be, and it would encourage smaller shields. I understood your intent, but we have to be really careful not to replace an inauthentic thing with another inauthentic thing--then we're no farther ahead. That's...

SyrRhys

Black Swan Designs wrote:I only have a moment, but here's this-

Piero della Francesca, Burial of the Wood c. 1455

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Gwen

Hi Gwen,

Does that painting show Christ wearing his shirt out and belted, or is that a white tunic of some sort?

SyrRhys

While ignoring for a second the targeting issues, I think Alfred of Carlyle might be on to something. By forcing the archers to shoot within a limited area, it kind of forces them to volley. Historically, we can all agree that a group of archers is probably a lot more accurate than a lone archer sn...

SyrRhys

Hi Rhys. Aren't these the same pretty gauntlets you were wearing in the East years ago? I remember drooling over them then. Sir Artorious was just asking about finger gauntlets on the SCA chivalry yahoo groups. I mentioned your gauntlets, but I thought you had decided they were not really safe for ...

SyrRhys

jester wrote:Allowed under the current rules

Hi John,

I know most of those things are *allowed* (I've run dozens of events using those rules!), I want to see them become the *norm*, and this "squatting on your heels like a toad" nonsense simply go away along with lime green polyester leisure suits.

SyrRhys

I realize this is just probably semantics, but one thing that I have been curious about since I started looking into SCA fighting is how a spear is used. A spear is actually a knife of the end of a stick. A spear would be able to cut and thrust. The spear as used in the SCA, that thrusts only, shou...

SyrRhys

You could require them to be at least 1" thick wood. That makes them thicker than my research has shown the real ones to be, and correspondingly far too heavy. No aluminum, plastic, etc. Aluminum, if of sufficient gauge, comes closest to replicating my idea of what a real shield must have felt like...

SyrRhys

I wear these from Mac and have never gotten seriously hurt through them, even from blows that have necessitated having the gauntlets dissassembled and rebuilt. And you know what? The finger lames don't reach down to the rattan, or any of the other silly Marshallate nonsense made up by people who jus...

SyrRhys

I am suggesting is a "gallery" or galleries from where those who would may shoot missiles onto the field in support of their "side". Can we have them say "lightening bolt" when they do it? And.... wear pointy wizards hats? With stars? Cause that would be cool... We'd have to allow those things--aft...

SyrRhys

Sir Rhys: I will advance a different arguement, now. The purpose of the tournament and melee in medieval society was to train for war, correct?. The entertainment that would accompany it is of a secondary nature to it's goal of training the chivalry of western europe for war. War is an importent as...

SyrRhys

Given your group's rules, and the guidelines you choose to follow when you decide to try and recreate medieval combat... What is the one thing you wish you could do? What is the one move that you wish was legal within the confines of the fighting system you choose to participate in? Why? Given this...

SyrRhys

combat archery, as it is today, is so against the spirit of our combat it amazes me that anyone is for it. of course, i make the mistake of expecting people that take the field give a crap about that spirit. i do, im reminded of it every day when i wake up with the aches and pains. with the limitat...

SyrRhys

I have the worst time with the damn things, even though I've had some really skilled ladies working on them. I think it's because I'm fat, but no matter what I do the part of the breeches on the inside of my thigh flops down, exposing my inner thigh, then the leg of the breeches themselves run up as...

SyrRhys

So it didn't shape the battlefield by influencing direction of travel? So it never killed anyone of Nobility? Lets face it. "Our style of fighting" isn't exactly an accurate simulation all the time either. I will concede this point only so far as in our CA it is represented disproportionatly. And h...

SyrRhys

Instead of chanting the typical "CA should be eliminated" mantra, why not detail a list of REASONABLE requirements for it to be utilized which are fair and equitable to all who are on the field. Because of all the arguments I presented careful evidence for that you didn't address: Archery didn't do...

SyrRhys

I like the idea of limited targeting. An excellant archer should make an excellant shot. Use Harold in the year 1066 as the example, target the face. If you dont have enough targets, target the other archers and keep the current rules. Then you have CA after CA who is targeting on the HF. Limit the...

SyrRhys

Actually, you'd still have to learn to fence. Estrella last, I believe we had one scenario where we could use 8 RBG shots, in total. (So, 8 people with one rubber band each...but it was based off of a percentage of the enemy facing us for that battle.) I'm not sure about the Pennsic scenarios, thou...

SyrRhys

You see it as bad; I see it as different. And I have evidence for my position whereas you simply have wishful thinking. I had heard of the Co. of St. Michael but not in that context. If I were you I would simply stick with that concept, and run events the way you think they should be run, and leave...

SyrRhys

I'm not sure if you meant it this way or not, but the part where you said "even if you can't fight you can still fence" implies that fencing is not fighting. I think that implication would offend fencers. Well, sorry guys, but it's a fact that some people who can't fight for physical reasons or who...

SyrRhys

Rhys: I was wrong. I have one more solution for you to consider. Get together a batch of your friends that agree with your viewpoint, and staff and autocrat events that include nothing except what you want to play! You can do that as autocrat. Then you get what you want and you don't have to suffer...

SyrRhys

Alejandro, Think of it as an object lesson in the difference between being chivalrous and being nice. Ya gotta admit, the old boy is consistent. There are 14 fencers at my local practice. Starting tomorrow night I will be training them as combat archers, as a service to my kingdom of residence. I w...

SyrRhys

And if you don't like that, welll, there's lots else to do--even if you can't fight you can still fence--anyone can do that and you don't have to worry about being hit--and they'll let you shoot people with rubber band guns, so you don't even have to learn to fence if you don't want to. That was un...

SyrRhys

Fine, I will concede that CA is a relatively recent addition to SCA combat. However, the very fact that there are so many archers now on the field, and so many opposed to abolishing it, clearly demonstrates that your position is not supported universally enough to validate the bans that you wish to...

SyrRhys

i think combat archers are bullies. they shoot at me from safe range, sight unseen, with weapons that fail the requirments that my weapons must meet, they dont have to let me know they are there before they strike me, i am powerless to do anything to them since they are not on my field to fight me ...

SyrRhys

One of the great things about our game is that it is not a democracy. So Syr Rhys, you won a crown once. Win another one and ban combat archery in your kingdom for your reign. Same goes for all you other CA hatin folks. Don't just sit there and whine! Get out there on the field of honour and change...

SyrRhys

I'm sorry Sir Rhys, but here blackbow has the better of you. This isn't about him (or I for that matter) liking or not liking what you have to say, nor is it about proving or disproving your evidence. We have all agreed that your evidence is correct, but that does not make your opinion RIGHT. Every...

SyrRhys

Wait a sec. Flaw! Apples and oranges here. What you are suggesting isn't whats going on here. Please allow me to rearrange your metaphor so that it more closely resembles the reality of this situation: Let's say you belonged to a golf club because you enjoyed playing golf. However, all the while th...

SyrRhys

Rhys: you have your sources, and I'd be lying if I said I'd done mass amounts of research on any of them. The fact remains, however, that you interpret what the SCA does as friendly melees because you don't think they accurately represent what would have happened in a war. Nor will I debate that. N...

SyrRhys

blackbow wrote:But you see, in Rhys' version of the SCA I couldn't do that.

That's patently untrue. Either show where I said no one was entitled to express an opnion or apologize. Resorting to childish ad-hominem attacks is a sure sign of a lack of a reasoned position.

SyrRhys

-One kingdom. -Not SCA-wide. -Not something that a significant percentage of the SCA does on a regular basis. -Not a complete removal of an activity with no alternative. Hi Jonathan, You seem to believe that all things are equally acceptable. Let's say you belonged to a golf club because you enjoye...

SyrRhys

Hence my point. If you're going to ban Combat Archery based on the premise that we're all Nobles and SCA events are to beconsidered as Tournaments or Melees, then one should also ban female combatants and all other non chivalrous personas. One should then enforce that modern gear is not to be used ...

SyrRhys

When I referred to Tournys, I meant the one-on-one bouts fought in the Lists. I assumed you were, but that just goes to show you don't know many of the important features of medieval deeds of arms--no insult intended, I merely wanted to make that point so you'd see that much of what you think is so...

SyrRhys

Not to speak for Alfred, but I'll take a shot at answering these: what excuse do you plan to come up with for all the mercenary troops who would surely have had no place in a friendly melee? They're confused, but mercenary troops were hired for friendly deeds of arms all the time. Consider how Willi...

SyrRhys

If we are only engaging in friendly deeds of arms, then we need to get rid of all thrusting weapons. No thrusting tips on swords or polearms, and no spears . SirRhys, if you wish to test yourself against dukes, and find no pleasure or honor in fighting the common soldier, stick to tournaments. If y...

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