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SyrRhys

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SyrRhys

Well, which is less wrong, 16th c. style foot combat spearheads or 21st c. style foot combat spearheads? C'est la lance de la chevalier Gumbie. Oh? And there's no rubber in your pollaxe head, G? Cut it out. Both are wrong, but one's an attempt to look like the kind of spear head that would be used ...

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Chris G. wrote:I was a bit unclear before in referencing the lances.

So proper construction is a straight taper.
What do you suggest as the starting diameter?

Check on an earlier page of this discussion. Galleron said he was going to try to start with 2" rattan.

SyrRhys

I like the look of those. With the taper of the spear, is it appropriate for them to taper from maximum diameter at the base narrowing towards the head, or would the maxiumum thickness be somewhere in the middle, narrowing towards each end, similar to the Jeff Hedgecock's lances shown in this threa...

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Ok, so a coronel shape is wrong for this time period. SyrRhys, I'm not following how that spear head is constructed. Do you have any pictures or sketches of this design? There are two pieces of rubber shaped like a spear head cut in half lengthwise. You tape them to the shaft of your weapon and voi...

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I think the oned from HE are technically illegal in the SCA buuutttttttt I certianly would love to see em at the Emprise just because they look so much better. Not really worried about em going through my visor. Again, as I said to Tom: Based on what Galleron wrote about these not being used on foo...

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Sir Rhys, Would a coronel be appropriate on the type of spear you were suggesting? I was thinking that it might look a lot better than just about any other alternative; of course the break away would have to be fairly light. I know that these are used by the jousting community with their break away...

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would the regular 3 leg tressel table be used by people of all classes? Or would the upper class have something more substantial. Or is a rich fellas tressel table just bigger/ nicer but the same basic design??? Hi, I think that even a wealthy individual would be likely to have a trestle table when...

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Likewise. I'd also be interested in the sources for some of the plans. A lot of medieval-oid structures aren't really based on anything historical... I've been looking at manuscripts depicting barriers, galleries and other supporting structures and have a fair concept on how to do them. PM me with ...

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Likewise. I'd also be interested in the sources for some of the plans. A lot of medieval-oid structures aren't really based on anything historical... I've been looking at manuscripts depicting barriers, galleries and other supporting structures and have a fair concept on how to do them. PM me with ...

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") that were designed to simulate Renee-like galleries, trestle tables, and... ta-daaa! ... the plans for a very simple but extremely effective and handsom tourney fence written by Earl Daffydd ap Gwystal from Atlantia (another member of St. Michael). Let me know and I'll get any of these to you. "...

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You can find the Friedrich Dornhoffer version of Durer's Fechtbuch here: m The first three .pdf's are Dornhoffer's discussion of the text; the last two are sword, messer, dagger and grappling. Please bear in mind that Durer was not, as far as anyone today can tell, a student of der Kunst des Fechten...

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I agree that the high-end of armor for any given time would probably have protected you from common arms of the time.. that is pretty much a given. But even so, we aren't "presumed" to be wearing ultra-high end armour..w e are wearing (theoretically) typical footmans gear. Speak for yourself. And w...

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The antipathy seems to be coming from those wearing plate armour. But accordin to Societal standards everyone is wearing chain mail. Arrows can defeat chain mail especially at close range, were one using the typical 100 plus poundage bows of the time. The armor standard still allows CA to be effect...

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Otagiri wrote:Perhaps I can be of assistance ...

Precisely! Thank you very much.

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Anyone have a good set of plans for a period looking list enclosure and how big do yall think this needs to be? I'll have a lotta inside time to work on it here in Wisconsin when winter comes. Oh and do we wanna have a barrier avalible? I have plans for medieval benches, chests, medievalish sunshad...

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The combat archery hatred confuses me a little. We are perfectly willing to pretend that our knights are riding imaginary horses; however if someone shoots you, off of that imaginary horse that's bad taste. I doubt combat archery will ever go away. Perhaps devising ways of staying alive with archer...

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So if we're doing that with only a dozen people how will the vennans and tennas down? Angus started this, so he should get to pick a team of tenans. Everyone else is venans. Simple. I like the general format but how can we space it out so that it lasts all day (more or less) i don't think we wanna ...

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I have fought in these with pollaxe, spear and longsword both in regular SCA fighting and in more formal and much harder-hitting deeds of arms for more than 12 years. So far, no broken fingers (in spite of the fact that lots of big men would like to hurt me), although I have had to have the finger p...

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In our play, wooden swords and axes rarely break and shields rarely fail. In the deeds, these events seem more common. Hey, that's a thought: Imagine that you make an 8-foot spear out of rattan. Now, use a delicate saw to cut part way through the shaft, then down the middle of the shaft, then the r...

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According to the other Vannes account, one of the fights is ended by a lance hit between vambrace and rerebrace. But doesn't that fly in the face of the entire purpose of the "push" as you have discussed it? Wouldn't it make more sense to see that as an accidental strike, as with the spear through ...

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Rhys shows us a pretty picture Muriel says: "Oooooooooooo - look at the clothes, those pretty clothes. What are they doin? Oh, who cares . . . just look at the pretty clothes!" NOW - I think THOSE are the cake! (I guess the fighting is the frosting to me??) luv ya, Hugh!! :::sigh::: Now we see why ...

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I defer to those with more knowledge than I, but I think you're confusing two kinds of activities: In the first, a specific challenge is given to fight with multiple weapons, say spear, longsword and dagger. In those cases, the weapons are matched, so that both combatants are using the same weapons...

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Here's another example of a spear duel with the a significant run-up for each attack. m Oh, I had forgotten about the knotted rope! 7 paces of 2.5 feet each would make a distance of 17.5 feet--very cool! Man, I'd love to do this sort of deed. So, you each start 17.5 feet apart (or more--I get the i...

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[quote="Otagiri]No single source. Make no mistake, I do not offer this tourney as an exact replicate of any period tourney. It is rather a format formed from readings of various tales. An essay on the fifteenth century Lalaing at the HACA was my intial inspiration: Thus came the idea of a deed invol...

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I would add some counsel in return, if you do not mind: We are creating a new culture of armes with every passing deed. No requirement for us to restrain ourselves to the scanty historical record as regards the conditions for these armes, though I require that we remain within the bounds of the pla...

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I, a stranger, offer this idea for a tournament to you for your comment, having read some of these tales and hoping that I have not misunderstood them too much. A Cascading Weapons Tourney. Hello Otagiri, What evidence can you offer for such a format? I am not fmiliar with that from any of the sour...

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King Rene melee on horse: Plenty of Jacks and Brigandines James, those jacks and brigs are being worn by the servents in the lists, not by combatants. The rules of that tournament are written out pretty plainly and they require all the actual combatants to wear plate (although the pictures show the...

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Someone mentioned a prize earlier. that probably should depend on the form and formality of the tounement- being named winner or even just singled out for praise may well be enough ( we need a Foissart type guy- Jehan?, Vitus?). If there's a formal prize it may be a jewel or some such- I'm whoefull...

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Most intresting. How about this then 3 passes with spear, 6 strokes with the longsword, 3 with an axe. The person with the better layed strikes wins? All blows are to strike the torso and head maybe the arms with the longsword and axe? Could result in many ties as Master G's blog speaks of. Also, w...

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Let the combatants strive with one another, and then let the one of them who feels bested say so. If neither of them will say they are bested, then let the gallery decide, or record a loss in both of the combatants' tallies. With respect, Sir Squire, I believe that will lead to ill will. Besides, i...

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Most intresting. How about this then 3 passes with spear, 6 strokes with the longsword, 3 with an axe. The person with the better layed strikes wins? All blows are to strike the torso and head maybe the arms with the longsword and axe? Could result in many ties as Master G's blog speaks of. Here's ...

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http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/history/muhlberger/froissart/vannes1.htm Here it is again. So most of the combat was with a spear or lance on foot? They seemed to charge one another and tilt as if they were on horseback, aiming for the head and body. In one match the spears break and they fight...

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Muriel wrote:We're frosting, Charlotte! We're frosting!!

Oh, Muriel, you're an entire sweet, creamy dessert with gilded cream cheese icing and a cherry on top. Hand done button holes are mere frosting.

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Charlotte J wrote:
SyrRhys wrote:These are far more crucial questions (pardon me, Muriel) than whether button holes are hand stitched or not.

It's all a matter of perspective.

Perhaps (and I saw the smileys!), but you have to decide first on the cake before you worry about the frosting.