The Armour Archive

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ancelin: Thank-you Erik! Would you, by any chance, know if the side picture you sent me shows the whole breastplate. In fact, I am trying to determine how far back the sides...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bob Charron: David, The wine is sold in European markets. I don't know that you're going to find it imported to the U.S. You can find references to it by surfing the web loo...

SyrRhys

Actually, the precise answer to your question is that gambesons are all worn over the mail, since the gambeson is, by definition, a quilted garment worn *over* other armor (see Blair, p. 33). The garment worn *under* armor is called an "aketon", a derivation of the Arabic word "al-haqueton" (which I...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Warren: saw this. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1749059734 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hi Warren, Just as a point of information, those are shaped vagu...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Alcyoneus: We also have numerous pictures of men from their right side with their sword arms drawn back (in combat involving S&S), and we can see the palm and finger side of th...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: Hi Rhys, My point is simply that sword and shield use on foot were not really a norm, or even commonplace on the Medieval battlefield. Looking at pictures o...

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Another way to do it is to take a short piece of rattan (say, perhaps 8 inches; whatever you think looks right for the head of your hammer) and carve it so it's thicker at one end than the other (the thinnest end *must* be an inch and a quarter, so you might make the other end 2 inches). You then sp...

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Hi, The earliest extant kettle hat with which I'm familiar is supposed to date from c. 1430 and can be seen on pp. 88-89 of Curtis, H., _2,500 Years of European Helmets_. I make no claims for the accuracy of that dating, however (nor do I doubt it; insufficient data). Why are you looking for an exta...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Noe: A question: If we are discussing the age of cap a pie plate, why is it that we find no evidence of wraps shots, or even just draw cuts to the back of the legs, a place tha...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: That said, the whole concept of fighting on full armour in foot with a shield and single sword is flawed, and that is where the confusion is stemming from. ...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Edmund Greyfox: Rhys, The reason i was thinking Italian was becuase of the way the armor is rounded. I was under the impression that rounding the plate on the arms and legs ...

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I've just found a better picture of the vambraces, and the lower cannons don't appear to be correctly shaped. In fact, they don't appear to have any shape at all, other than being sort of tubular. Also, I'm not sure how they did that wing, but it just doesn't look right. ------------------ Hugh Knig...

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Wow, that's one of the best harnesses I've seen from them. Otto's right that it's not quite perfect, however it's pretty close. The shape of the bascinet is a bit wonky (it should be more "bulbous"), and the gorget is kind of funny, but they have more or less the right idea, just not perfectly execu...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by IainMcClennan: Distance is a large part of it. You have to be fairly close to throw a wrap to someplace like the back of the head. Most fighting in period was done from a d...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: Hi Rhys, No, not at all. In addition to over 800 Spaniards, in essence all of the subject peoples of the Aztecs formed an army of tens of thousands of men a...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: Before you dismiss something (Centeral American Indians)out of hand, you probably ought to try to attain some knowledge of the subject. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Albrekt af Viborg: I may be way off-base here, but I was under the impression that because of the "station" of the men killed at Wisby, and because of the wounds evident on the...

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I seem to recall that they are to be made out of lindenwood, if I remember correctly. Apparently, if you make them out wood that's too hard they'll simply break on stones, so you're supposed to use something fairly soft. ------------------ Hugh Knight "Welcome to the Church of the Open Field, let us...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Christian H. Tobler: Hi Hugh, The technique you're thinking of can be done from the left Nebenhut (p. 158 of 'Secrets'). Von Danzig also describes the Duplieren and Mutiere...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bob Charron: The squinter is not a wrap in the SCA sense. It is a false edge blow from above using an integral cover against a donward blow. It is no more a wrap than a rive...

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Other than one single sabaton (much like the one on the effigy of Sir John d'Abernon) I don't think there's any leg armor or arm armor from that dig at all. There are a number of coats of plates, a few gauntlets, a few spaulders, and that's it. No helms, either. It's pretty fair to speculate, howeve...

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Speaking as both an authenticity nut and as a trainer of fighters who want to win (why are people always seen as one or the other?), I think it's *important* to tell newcomers about the flaws in their equipment and harness. I think many of our problems stem from folks not being more demanding (both ...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: Hi Rhys, You know, there is a good reason professional historiuans and scholars don't speak in absolute terms regarding practises such as those under discus...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: Hi Rhys & all, The only place you find anything resembling a wrap in the fechtbuch are in blossfechten - not armoured combat. The majority of the blows you ...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Robert de Carruthers: I think it means that even though strength is the determining factor, the knights still respect skill above all else in their friendly combats. <HR...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Alcyoneus: "Jarnac feinted a head cut, drawing up his adversaryâ€™s shield, then dropped the blade under the left leg of ChastaigneraÃ¯e, hamstringing him." If he had merely...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Russ Mitchell: I see no conflict there at all, Hugh: Fiore's stuff is clearly designed to let one "mash human," yet Bob and his buddies wrestle with it all the time, and so far...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bob Charron: Christian, I wouldn't agree that this is a "wrap". The wrap indicates that the false edge of the blade is moving back toward the thrower (in some way) at the en...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Russ Mitchell: Now I'm getting paranoid. I haven't seen the final text, and hope they haven't screwed that up, too... (though I *could* be remembering from another one of the t...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by SyrRhys: I remember you telling us that during your class, but we didn't cover it much in the practical application. Again, there's obviously so much in the text that I hav...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bob Charron: Hugh, Strikes are integral in Fiore's wrestling as well as Ringeck's (from what I read in Christian's book and the manuscript).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I re...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: If you are talking historical padded armours, they are quite a bit thicker than the typical 'gambeson' seen in the SCA and other circles - a creature that i...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Vallconnan: I can second that. Of course, I can be quite pissed when Hugh wacks everybody who does, say LARP, as "Dungeon Bunnies", why not just call them LARPers or LARP-Playe...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Russ Mitchell: But if you remember in the introduction to the wrestling, he talks about friendly wrestling and not-so-friendly wrestling? I think the implication is that if ...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Gethin: Hi Rhys, In regards to the heraldic device of St. Michael and St. George. I did some research on Michael and found that both carry the same device. The transferance...