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- Wed Jul 03, 2002 5:23 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14thCentury/HYW living history group
- Replies: 122
- Views: 121
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JamesByngham: I would be pretty put off, if I showed up at an event, and was told that since I was the 5th tent to arrive, that I would have to camp some distance away from whe...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 5:20 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Buttspikes on 2H-swords
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Vermin: <B>Actually, if someone said "I" was telling people to lie, or something of that sort, I'd say something along the lines of what Hugh did. So someone can say things abo...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 5:19 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Buttspikes on 2H-swords
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18
How is what I suggested "rules manipulation"? It's no such thing! The unpadded pole arm rules have created *lots* of perfectly reasonable interpretations that allow us to make our weapons and our techniques more historically accurate. Tell me: Just exactly how is an unpadded pole arm different from ...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 5:08 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chef de chambre: One point I do differ with you on is the importance of technique. Historicaly, it was considered very important, which is the principle reason we have fechtbuc...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 4:53 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
Originally posted by OurDecay: The first part of your post got cut off from this reply for some reason, but it had to do with folks who play with steel sword-shaped objects and disparage the SCA: There are many. Just as a start, go look through the archives for the Blankenshield armor thread and loo...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:24 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Buttspikes on 2H-swords
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Alexander: Very honorable of you. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Are you coming to Pennsic? Perhaps we could discuss my honor or lack thereof there. ------------------ Hugh Knight "W...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:20 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Olaf Skalle Krossar: <B>Hello all, I’m a little late getting into this debate because it looked like, and for the most part is, another stupid argument thread. But I do feel ...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:13 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by flonzy: Rattan can be used with more force but not full force. Full force would be excessive under SCA rules. Rattan combat in the SCA does not simulate sword combat. We cannot...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:44 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by OurDecay: <B>By SyrRhys: Honestly, Hugh, which people are these? Is this your PERCEPTION or reality? Don't create a crusade if one's not there. I've never seen Bascot, Chef or ...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:31 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Owen: SyrRhys- it that I don't want to do a period that has comprehensive armor, it's that I want to do one that doesn't. There's a subtle difference. Of course, you don't want...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:25 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14thCentury/HYW living history group
- Replies: 122
- Views: 121
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bob Hurley: Why just for show, unless the site or climate is unsuitable for it? The tarp isn't necessary in most weather if you have a good blanket, I've been assured by folks ...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:22 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Buttspikes on 2H-swords
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by twoswords: Alexander - I think SirRhys was a bit ironic. There was a similar thread on another topic wich kind of reminded me about this entire situation. </font><HR></BLOCKQUO...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:17 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Buttspikes on 2H-swords
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Alexander: <B> He needs a rule because unpadded polearms are not allowed here in Drachenwald. I find it a bit irresponsible that you would suggest to someone that they should l...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:11 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chef de chambre: <B>Rhys, Nobody but NOBODY</B> is "doing the real thing", since people aren't being left wounded and dead. Tournaments historicaly began as a simulation of bat...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:06 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bascot: You "strike through" when doing a "rap" shot? How is that possible? </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> See, that's why it's important to do this stuff full speed. When I "rap" (s...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 1:19 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Improving the look of the SCA
- Replies: 89
- Views: 762
On the turnshoes issue, my main beef with them isn't that they slip on wet grass (I've actually found them to be OK for that), but rather that the stitching rips out so often. *That* sucks considering how often I fight. Speaking of slipping, however, has anyone tried tying knotted cords to the soles...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 1:15 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14thCentury/HYW living history group
- Replies: 122
- Views: 121
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bob Hurley: I don't think it would be that hard to do in a 14thC camp if you can choose a suitable site, and your tent-less men use good woods skills. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 1:11 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14thCentury/HYW living history group
- Replies: 122
- Views: 121
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gwen: <B>Hugh says "why not have folks set up modern tents somewhere else?" Hugh, the more I read your posts, the further I get from understanding your position.</B></font><HR>...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:52 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Owen: <B> That's what we are now, what's the problem? http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/biggrin.gif And, obviously, looking at my 45 pounds of mail, leather, steel, and yes, pla...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:49 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chef de chambre: <B>Hi Rhys, You say you disparage only people who do not do both. How would you like it if HMMA people disparaged "people who have never picked up good reprodu...
- Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:31 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Breast plate gauge
- Replies: 7
- Views: 11
Mac has repeatedly told me that most medieval breastplates are more like 14 gauge or *better* in the center, tapering to thinner metal at the edges. 18 gauge breastplates will *not* hold up well if you live in a place with hard hitters, I promise you. ------------------ Hugh Knight "Welcome to the C...
- Tue Jul 02, 2002 2:19 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Buttspikes on 2H-swords
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ernst: <B>Perhaps a sharply peened tang? http://www.mbs-brasses.co.uk/pic_lib/Fovran_Brass.htm </B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Wow! That's a brand new picture for me, and you're r...
- Tue Jul 02, 2002 10:57 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by David: The fact remains that we have some bits of knowledge about how they studied swordsmanship. Our goal is to get as close as possible to that without exceeding our comfort ...
- Tue Jul 02, 2002 10:53 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Owen: Does it look like I don't care about authenticity? </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes. Note the plastic gauntlets. <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">How often, when the pere...
- Tue Jul 02, 2002 10:50 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by David: Rattan certainly has its use as a tool to practice full force blows in a sparring environment, but it seems to me a bit extreme to dismiss the practice methods used by t...
- Tue Jul 02, 2002 10:48 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Buttspikes on 2H-swords
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18
I must say I'm of two minds on the butt spikes on longswords issue. One side of me notes that some of the fecthbucher show them; for example, the Codex Wallenstien plate people have already shown, or else this plate from the 1459 edition of Talhoffer: http://base.kb.dk/pls/hsk_web/hsk_vis.side?p_hs_...
- Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:12 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Snaebjorn Hroaldsson: <B>Sir Rhys, Are we recreating combat or tourney fighting? I, for one, will never believe that knights fighting in tourneys with rebated steel (or even ba...
- Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:02 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: A Proper Showing at A Pas d'Armes
- Replies: 39
- Views: 43
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Templar Bob/De Tyre: <B>SyrRhys: I suggested using suede because it more closely resembled velvet without actually being so. Also, because suede would be somewhat durable. I di...
- Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:44 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14thCentury/HYW living history group
- Replies: 122
- Views: 121
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gwen: <B>Just a thought- Very few modern guys are going to want to sleep in the open, no matter how historically accurate the concept is. You'll find a few hardy young souls wh...
- Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:27 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: The REAL Problem with the SCA
- Replies: 110
- Views: 118
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gwen: Hugh says [b]" We are therefore *much* more realistic when we use rattan simulators, even though using steel at slow speed with pulled blows makes people feel they're mor...
- Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:14 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: A Proper Showing at A Pas d'Armes
- Replies: 39
- Views: 43
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Templar Bob/De Tyre: <B> SyrRhys: Have you considered making a cap of maintenance of red suede for you helm (for the sake of the texture)? The ermined facings can be tooled ont...
- Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:07 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: A Proper Showing at A Pas d'Armes
- Replies: 39
- Views: 43
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lord William Avery: <B>SyrRyhs, Just wanted to comment on St. Michael site. It is truly wonderful to see such dedication to detail and all while still having fun! </B></font><H...
- Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:05 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: A Proper Showing at A Pas d'Armes
- Replies: 39
- Views: 43
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bascot: I don't deliberately wear them at SCA events just to antagonize, but if I am, and someone challenges me my response is simple. Blow me. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> How pol...
- Mon Jul 01, 2002 7:37 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14thCentury/HYW living history group
- Replies: 122
- Views: 121
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chef de chambre: <B>Hi All, Regarding tentage, it depends on where and when. It would look wrong not to have extensivve tentage in the Burgundian army of the 1470's , they lite...
- Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:46 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 14thCentury/HYW living history group
- Replies: 122
- Views: 121
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Murdock: <B>I duuno, Chef? Gwen? Maybe som eof our folks that are geographically close could buy a tent ans split the cost. I was alo thinking that people who don't have a tnet...
