The Armour Archive

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by IainMcClennan: Perhaps it has something to do with the intended student. If I wanted to become a skilled man at arms I would want to learn a comprehensive system where each...

SyrRhys

Step into the shot; that lessens the force. Also, drop your knees and rotate your shield back to intercept his blow.

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Hugh Knight
"Welcome to the Church of the Open Field, let us 'prey': Hunt hard, kill swiftly, waste nothing, make no apologies"

SyrRhys

HI Wade, Thanks for that post; there was neat info there I didn't have before. One question, however: You keep talking about armor not being "tempered". Do you mean it's hardened and then not tempered, or are you using the word to be synonymous with hardening? My understanding (from Mac) was that ar...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by chef de chambre: Once I finish this one, my next project will be one specificaly designed to be worn with a great bascinet - a la Rene of Anjou's "book of Love" and "book of...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Gwen: Where's the horses for the "Knight"? The Italians used a *lot* of horses- at least 1/3 of your soldier types would be mounted, as well as the "knightly" guys. A Burgun...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Murdock: And we are agreed, 1385-1415 Mecenary troop in Italy. Something Akin to the White Co. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I think that's too broad a range. The most successful LH...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bascot: Cast iron is a problem. I've got the full cast iron "Lodge" stuff, but it is "SCA" authentic and won't cut it. The technology for mass-producing cast iron is later peri...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Murdock: As far as i can tell they didn't have uniforms like we think of them now. If you were retained to a knight or some other Noble you might wear his livery....

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bascot: I have a 19th C. wooden last. It is a "right", not a common last. It looks like a wooden foot without details. Lasts are necessary for making shoes to fit other peop...

SyrRhys

Wouldn't it be fascinating if it could be shown that Le Jeu de La Hache was written between the two editions, and influenced Talhoffer's later work?

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Hugh Knight
"Welcome to the Church of the Open Field, let us 'prey': Hunt hard, kill swiftly, waste nothing, make no apologies"

SyrRhys

I don't think I'd be willing to do a camp at Pennsic. I have my very best friends in my SCA household, not to mention my Duke, and I will always camp with them. At other wars I'd be more willing, but I haven't been able to make it to any so far. I'm more interested in things like Military Through th...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by cheval: Rhys: "The botom line is that *both* the look and the function are necessary to an accurate recreation... In situations where the plastic can be hidden *completely*....

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Marshal: Used under mail, there's no weight advantage conferred---fine if invisible. To armour areas that would not have been armoured in period---again there's no advantage gi...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Destichado: Is there any perscedent for solid steel shields in the late 15th century? (Bucklers included.) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I don't know what else the bucklers portraye...

SyrRhys

Hi, Spring steel really *is* the answer to the SCAs armor needs in many ways, but you made one mistake: *Some* medieval armor was hardened, not all. We need hardened armor in order to make it of authentic thickness and not get destroyed constantly, but that shouldn't lead you to believe all medieval...

SyrRhys

Winterfell, you forgot to list the most important reason to occasionally use plastic: You can make pieces of armor that are *more* medieval in weight than the steel most people use. See my lengthy discussion on this in the other plastic thread going on. The botom line is that *both* the look and the...

SyrRhys

Sadly, I don't have *anything* Mac wants. :::sigh:::

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Hugh Knight
"Welcome to the Church of the Open Field, let us 'prey': Hunt hard, kill swiftly, waste nothing, make no apologies"

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by schreiber: F--- lasts. Put on a sock. Wrap your foot in saran wrap. Have a friend completely cover your foot with duct tape while you're standing upright. Draw the seams on ...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Murdock: So who likes Flemish and who like Italian ? Those look like the 2 faves.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I have no interest in the Flemish plan; Bob's arguments are all...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jareth: Oh, in case I didn't say it before...Thank you to Steve and to Hugh Knight for your help. Going back to the cherberg #13 harness...How long and closely fitted to the...

SyrRhys

Yes, I believe that in certain *specific* circumstances plastic armor can be justified. You see, function is every bit as important as appearance: if your armor doesn't function like medieval armor then it's just as wrong as armor that doesn't look right. Unfortunately, the *vast* majority of SCA ar...

SyrRhys

I have almost quit the SCA many times over the last 18+ years, and, in fact, I was *very* inactive for a long time. The things which constantly brought me back, however were the fighting and my friends. I suppose you can make friends anywhere, but those I hold dearest are all SCAdians. As for fighti...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Russ Mitchell: My copy of Talhoffer is sitting in Hungary at the moment, but a place to look might be the plate where T. shows attacks at the lower openings. I have a vague mem...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jareth: The hauberk reaches down just about to the top of my knees. I have short legs. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> IN that case, the segmented Churburg (it's #13, by the way) is c...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Murdock: Well we seem really spread out, but there are a fair number of us. How bout first lets start a base standard of authenticity. Accaeptabel minimal garb and kit and s...

SyrRhys

Yet another Talhoffer question: There are relatively few unterhau shown in Talhoffer, but I've been thinking about them a lot lately. A number of people I know who practice German martial arts feel that the unterhau is always done with the true edge, but I'm not so sure. In Fiore, all unterhau (he c...

SyrRhys

Last night I was starting a comprehensive survey of the pollaxe techniques in Talhoffer's manuals, and I found an interesting thing when I compared the 1467 (Marc Rector's translation) edition against the 1459 edition (I posted the link to that in my previous topic). Looking at the two manuals, ther...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Androu: BTW, SIR Ryhs: I've also got a bell wedge pavilion but I've had a hard time documenting the use of this type of tentage in the mid 14th century. Have you seen any? I...

SyrRhys

Yes, your interpretation is dead on; those plates are only meant to show specific points of time in a technique. Remember that these manuals were often meant as memory aids rather than as a "how to" book. Take, for example, this plate: http://www.thehaca.com/talhoffer/t3.htm In this technique both f...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Murdock: Who would actually be interested in joining one or starting one up. Either a HYW unit or a 14th C tournament co, an archer column, an infantry unit whatever. Just w...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jareth: How hard is it to have a persona that just vaguely makes sense? It's harder to make up the celtic,ninja,gypse,viking raised by an aztec crap. Feh. This whole LARP '...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by jester: I have to disagree with this sentence: "Someone who can't afford a *decent* harness shouldn't fight; to do so is demeaning to everyone else." I wouldn't be particip...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by John Larsen: My second question I call the "paradox of the shield". I see many, many more aircraft aluminum shields than I do plywood. The aluminum ones cost at least three tim...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jeff J: What's the obsession with needing a harness to fight in? Proper training makes it relatively safe to spar with wasters or blunt steel while wearing as little as a ja...

SyrRhys

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Murdock: OK Using on line armoury price lists, or prices from a current print catalogue. Come up with the cheapest possible steel rig that covers the whole bod. Must have Gr...

Talhoffer Unterhau Question

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