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by Tom Knighton
Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:48 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Requesting Pas help
Replies: 11
Views: 167

I only have one comment. (best surfer dude voice)That sounds freakin awesome!!! Seriously though, I really like that format. It's interesting and will give a variety of fights, opportunities for fighters to be recognized for more than just bashing heads in, and be something a bit different from the ...
by Tom Knighton
Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:15 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

I think to a certain extent people DO do that. My only real problem are the people who talk about "painstaking research" they have done when they really haven't done much of anything other than post a question on a bulletin board or email list and a websearch. I typically use bibilographies in the b...
by Tom Knighton
Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:35 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: SCA legal sallet?
Replies: 11
Views: 344

Both the sallet/bevor combo and the bellows visored sallet can be constructed so as to be list legal for SCA combat. Many different armourers make them, but I can't come up with a list right off the top of my head.

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:55 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Requesting Pas help
Replies: 11
Views: 167

Templar Bob/De Tyre wrote:Has anyone tried a "Tree of Charlemagne" Pas'?


I'm not familiar with this tournament format. I'd love some more information on it if you have any.

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:38 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: 4th or 5th century Norse clothing and armour
Replies: 3
Views: 113

I'm not an expert on this area by far, but I'm pretty sure that you are going to want to look for Vendal era stuff, though you might be wanting earlier than that. The Norse culture that we all know and love so well is later than the era you are asking about. However, if memory serves (but in all hon...
by Tom Knighton
Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:59 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: OT - Awards question, for SCA royalty, former royalty, etc.
Replies: 14
Views: 345

I've never been crown, so take what I am saying with a grain of salt. I think it's a bad idea to tell someone that they are getting an award. Period. Under no circumstances. Why? Because unless you are the crown, you have no way of knowing for certain if they are GETTING an award unless you are assi...
by Tom Knighton
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:44 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

I'm glad your demo went well. The one's I've typically attended had some fighting, many of the fighters wearing very non-historical armour and clothing, preceded by a talk up of the SCA rules of legal target areas. Then there is some question and answer period on an individual basis. Very few in the...
by Tom Knighton
Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:08 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: A Competitive Approach to the Study of Combat
Replies: 41
Views: 674

Here's my take on the whole resistance to steel fighting in the SCA. SCA uses rattan weapons at full speed with pretty hard force, all things considered. We get together once a week and smack the shit out of one another. It's all in good fun. Then someone mentions steel combat at full speed, with fu...
by Tom Knighton
Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:20 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Where are all of you LH groups located?
Replies: 11
Views: 168

Conroi FitzOsbern does 11th Century Norman and is based around Atlanta, GA although there are folks from farther away.

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:38 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: French Chivalry
Replies: 37
Views: 398

Germanic, not German :P

Subtle difference in MY mind at least (which is admittedly a warped and twisted place :)

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:21 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

Just a note.

If we didn't think the SCA was worth it, we wouldn't bother with trying to help it be what it claims to be.

That's all I want.

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:38 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

1) If you don't like the term Authenticity Nazi, quit using terms Generi-celt, Plastic Paladin, Pad-boy, SCA-dweeb etc.... None of them are any less rude than any other. PLUS you will hardly sway people to your point of view by using these term. Sorry, but the Nazi's are responsible for the deaths ...
by Tom Knighton
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:25 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

brewer, No worries. I wasn't sure if you had interpreted my earlier post that way or not. Sometimes what is in my head and what I write aren't the same thing, and that particular post seemed the same way to me. I just wasn't sure. I think many of us here on the Archive agree in principle. I only wis...
by Tom Knighton
Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:59 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Arena Kombat
Replies: 104
Views: 2340

SCA combat isn't steel. It uses rattan weapons, but is full speed and hard force. Also, SCA has minimum armour standards, but doesn't require "full armour".

Other groups do the live steel stuff.

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:08 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

Brewer said: The idea -- put forth by somebody up the thread, and I can't find it to quote it -- that it's better to get people in cotton broadcloth t-tunics and sweats than into real, quality accurate kit is unfathomable to me. It's such utter bullshit that I can't wrap my brain round it. How on G...
by Tom Knighton
Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:41 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

Kass, It's not so much that you and I disagree, but the trick is really WHERE to start that line. Some would say that there isn't a line needed, but I think you and I agree that it does need to be there. While I won't shed a single tear if the SCA does start to require a fairly authentic first soft ...
by Tom Knighton
Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:27 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: French Chivalry
Replies: 37
Views: 398

Charlemagne was a Frank. It was from the Franks that France gets its name, or so I have read somewhere.

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:53 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

Jehan, That's sorta deep in a stick-jocky kind of way (but I like it, and I'll have to remember it). I still think the first step would be defining a reasonable attempt. I period encampment for your first event isn't reasonable. Having your nylon nipple set up a bit away so that it doesn't detract f...
by Tom Knighton
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:45 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

Personally, I wish the SCA would make up its mind. If it wants to be a historically based group, then start motivating folks to learn history. If it wants to be a fantasy group, then that's cool too. I've got my favorite D&D character that I would LOVE to play If the SCA doesn't want to encourage hi...
by Tom Knighton
Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:17 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: galloglass helms -ireland
Replies: 10
Views: 295

On this page here: http://jonnymc.tripod.com/history.htm

If you go about halfway down, there is a picture of a extant helm like the one Wil shared the illustration of. Hopefully this one will help you out quite a bit :)

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:03 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: French Chivalry
Replies: 37
Views: 398

No one is saying that the French Chivalry was without flaw. They DID have a strong tradition of Chivalry in ages past. There are plenty of accounts of great deeds of chivlary performed by French knights. Sure there are examples of baseness among these same individuals, but I assert that you could fi...
by Tom Knighton
Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:57 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: galloglass helms -ireland
Replies: 10
Views: 295

I'm having difficulty finding it now, but there is a surviving example in a museum in Ireland, possibly dublin. It looks almost exactly like the helm in the illustration Wil posted. It looks, to me at least, like a combination between a one-piece Norman and a Corinthan helm, but that's just they way...
by Tom Knighton
Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:35 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: French Chivalry
Replies: 37
Views: 398

It is sad that these two people couldn't seperate the current political climate from the nobility of a long gone age. There is every reason in the world to applaud the French Chivalry, for they are the fountain of Chivalry for most of the world. IIRC, the term Chivalry has a French origin, besides t...
by Tom Knighton
Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:32 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Military Training in the Middle Ages
Replies: 5
Views: 172

Thanks Chef, I knew you would probably have the answer So then, a group of re-enactors portraying a 15th Century mercenary unit would do what then? Would they use I.33, even though it predates them by almost 200 years, or would they use a later manual for thier training and just accept that it's as ...
by Tom Knighton
Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:32 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Military Training in the Middle Ages
Replies: 5
Views: 172

Military Training in the Middle Ages

In another thread, the subject of Historical Western Martial Arts came up, as it sometimes does. Chef mentioned that folks who train with these styles using period clothing and footwear look exactly like the swordsmen in the fighting manuals. Also, there has been plenty to show that these methods wo...
by Tom Knighton
Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:15 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Anyone know of a better image of this?
Replies: 13
Views: 350

Thanks Morgan, that seemed to do the trick. Granted, if you blow it to big it gets distorted, but that is true of any image.

I still need to get that book Egfroth mentioned. It's bound to have more detailed pictures for examination, as well as what the current intrepration of it is.

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:43 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Anyone know of a better image of this?
Replies: 13
Views: 350

I'm trying to get a good look at the clothing of the man in the far left, apparently Count Guy. What is of the most interest is the different tone at the top of his tunic. I wanted to get a good look at the tapestry image to really examine this for myself. Egroth, Thanks for the book recommendation....
by Tom Knighton
Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:35 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Anyone know of a better image of this?
Replies: 13
Views: 350

Thanks, but I really need a better image of the original. Reproductions can lose subtlities that I really need to see for my research. I appreciate it though, but alas it's not what I need :(

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:26 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Anyone know of a better image of this?
Replies: 13
Views: 350

Anyone know of a better image of this?

http://www.hastings1066.com/bayeux4.shtml

I'm trying to get a better look at the left portion of the tapestry, but this is as big as this image gets :(

:shock: I guess size DOES matter :shock:

At least in this regard :mrgreen:

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:45 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: We are weak
Replies: 184
Views: 3694

I have been doing SCA for a while, and I'm starting into LH now. Like Adam, I have to have my stuff pull double duty. As much of my LH kit as possible will be used in SCA (since LH has higher standards, there stuff will work in the SCA while SCA stuff won't really work in LH). I'm pretty poor, so I ...
by Tom Knighton
Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:35 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Tie your chinstraps, folks! :)
Replies: 16
Views: 438

A few years back, I had an illusion bascinet that I had padded and strapped. After a few months, I got a maille coif that I could wear under it. I removed some of the padding and the chinstrap wasn' as snug as normal, but did fine for fighter practice. Then, at Dark Wars I here in Meridies, we forme...
by Tom Knighton
Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:22 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: We are weak
Replies: 184
Views: 3694

Jehan, That's what I meant, although I am on painkillers so I may not have made myself clear in the least little bit. I don't think people would leave the SCA, if for no other reason than all of thier friends who prefer different time periods. However, I DO feel that if the number of people doing bo...
by Tom Knighton
Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:31 pm
Forum: Classifieds / Want Ads
Topic: How much would you pay for Viking Shields?
Replies: 10
Views: 309

Where were these when I was doing that time period in the SCA????????

SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have thought about putting together a good norse kit and if I do, I would be VERY interested in one. Shield cake!!!

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:57 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: This Sword is Out of this World!
Replies: 15
Views: 394

I remember hearing somewhere a few years back that when legend talked about King Arthur drawing his sword from the stone they really meant that his sword was made from a meteor. I haven't seen anything on this personally so it could all be bull. Who knows.

Bran
by Tom Knighton
Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:49 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Appearance and the SCA - Between the Horns of a Dilemma
Replies: 76
Views: 1790

Personally, I could give a rats ass about coleman tent and chairs, just so long as they aren't around the medieval part of the event. Years ago, my whole family did Civil War re-enactment. I camped authentic, while my parents camped modern. The public never knew there was a modern encampment. I have...