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by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:07 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Hardening 1040 Steel
Replies: 10
Views: 16

Well, took out the old rosebud tip on the torch last night, and some scrap metal 1040 peices. Our method was fairly simple. Heat till no longer magnetic (use good magnet) and then quench in ice water (which usually after a quench or two became water). In general it seemed that the 1040 would become ...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 23, 2002 4:50 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Armour questions.
Replies: 7
Views: 25

Two things: #1) Don't use 14 gauge for everything. It will just perpetuate the stupid myth that "knights were so heavy they had to be craned into position" by the people who see your armour. Try to use the appropriate gauge for the job. Follow Ideval's advice. #2) Yeah, you can hammer harden stuff. ...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 23, 2002 11:35 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Using the false edge
Replies: 118
Views: 55

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Russ Mitchell: <B> -- snip -- I strongly suspect that in a couple of years this will be a very, very dead horse. Just give us manuscript grubbers a little more time to get the ...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 23, 2002 11:07 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: IT'S FINISHED.
Replies: 9
Views: 12

Dude! Pics!
by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 23, 2002 10:56 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Hardening 1040 Steel
Replies: 10
Views: 16

Well, a 1040 4'x8' sheet of 16 gauge is around $35-$40 depending. Where as a 36"x72" .032 sheet of 4130 is around $50 plus shipping.
by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 23, 2002 9:10 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Crusader Elbows
Replies: 11
Views: 11

Lessee, in order : Connor, ditto, although wasn't Sheridan being goofy? I'll keep you in mind for XMas http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif Krag, that's mild. I'll take the question as a complement on the polish http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif Taltosh, we are working on a slatback s...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 23, 2002 1:34 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Crusader Elbows
Replies: 11
Views: 11

Crusader Elbows

Me and my armouring cohort made up a set of crusader elbows for my best friend and they turned out really nice. I wanted to show a picture of them to the people here. I'm really proud of the clean lines, the nice finish and polish on them. Click on the pictures to see the full size images. <img bord...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:41 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Which one should I buy?
Replies: 6
Views: 10

Shear first. Friend of mine has an edge roller, and it makes cool stuff, but it is just as easy to roll the edges by hand. cutting it out by hand though...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:33 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Hardening 1040 Steel
Replies: 10
Views: 16

That's a good start http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif Caues what I want is to be able to make armour lighter and to keep it as dent resistant. I know from experience that 22 guage (.032") 4130 steel is about as tough as 16 guague mild steel (.0625") for about half the weight. Question is, h...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 5:43 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Hardening 1040 Steel
Replies: 10
Views: 16

Hardening 1040 Steel

I stumbled upon this site http://www.suppliersonline.com/propertypages/1040.asp while searching for some sources for annealed 4130 steel. The interesting thing is that it says it can be hardened. This is in conflict with everything I've been told... any one have more info on this dichotomy?
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 5:35 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Hose. When did the codpiece get added?
Replies: 19
Views: 28

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gwen: <B>You guys always wait until I'm up to my eyeballs in work to ask the interesting questions! http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/wink.gif Chef is right- hosen joined and aq...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 5:13 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Who offers legs with complex curves in the cuisses?
Replies: 15
Views: 25

Along with "if you think its worth that then I encourage you to make it yourself"
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 5:08 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Lefties in Period?
Replies: 28
Views: 15

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by marcidius: <B> One law for the rulers, another for the ruled. I'm just glad I'm ambidexterous. I can hide my heresy (though I'm told that only makes it worse.) My father was le...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 5:02 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Using the false edge
Replies: 118
Views: 55

Jester and Flonzy, please note that there are two "Jeans" online here, and while he and I know each other, we're different people http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif Flonzy, you are right sarcasm does not work well on the web. I'll try to avoid it. Flonzy said: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:29 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Hose. When did the codpiece get added?
Replies: 19
Views: 28

Follow one question. Did they still wear braes under the now-joined hosen?

I bet Gwen can give a better answer to this one.
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:14 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Using the false edge
Replies: 118
Views: 55

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by flonzy: <B> I was making a comment only against the "wrap" not a general comment that thrusts are faster. Thanks for giving my words a little spin doctoring http://www.armourar...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:09 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Using the false edge
Replies: 118
Views: 55

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bob Charron: <B>Jean Paul, I understand now about the thrust comment. It crossed my mind right after I hit "submit reply" So are you describing a position from Fiore with the s...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:37 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Good night in the shop
Replies: 12
Views: 12

We do ours every monday night @ 7:30 pm till 10:30 or 11:30... we get lots done... its pretty cool... soon we'll be working on getting hardened steel stuff.
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:26 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Good night in the shop
Replies: 12
Views: 12

Good night in the shop

Had our normal armourer's night last night, but the attendance was a bit lower than normal (only about 5 people working on stuff). Got WAY more stuff done. Completed a UBF helm that needed on final step. Completed joining two halfs of a Ron Simmons bascinet top. Did a whole set of quillions for a ba...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:21 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Mad Matt's armour blueing method. (Editors: essays submissio
Replies: 22
Views: 34

Matt, how much will one of the 2 oz bottles from Kleen-Bore do?

I wanna try it out, but don't want to get too little..
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 11:07 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Using the false edge
Replies: 118
Views: 55

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bob Charron: <B>Jean Paul, You describe Fiore's "most popular stance" is a "point on stance". Which one would this be? Why is it "popular" and with whom? You had to guess you'd...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:24 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Mad Matt's armour blueing method. (Editors: essays submissio
Replies: 22
Views: 34

Matt, et al... thanks for posting this... was just considering blueing some armour... thanks for the tips...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:11 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Using the false edge
Replies: 118
Views: 55

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by flonzy: <B>But Jean Paul you are arguing that it must work with a real sword becuase it works with rattan. Flonzy </B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Find the quote where I say or imp...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:09 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Using the false edge
Replies: 118
Views: 55

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by flonzy: <B>Boy have I stirred up the pot! Jean Paul de Sens nope never tried a wrap on a moving person with live steal. To all: If you could get the false edge wrap to hit a he...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:58 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: You Look Stupid.
Replies: 96
Views: 165

Thanks for all the help guys. I agree that there is a very CLEAR visual distinction to people who are wearing braes and hosen...you can tell it very quickly and it looks good. I think the very first person I saw doing it was Bob at his Dallas (well, Denton) Fiore seminar.
by Jean Paul de Sens
Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:52 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Using the false edge
Replies: 118
Views: 55

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by flonzy: <B> Please dismiss me all you like. Bob's post said it all anyway. The manuals do not show right side false edge strikes, it's a waste of time and movement.The wrap sho...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Sun Oct 20, 2002 11:23 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: But is it...
Replies: 22
Views: 10

10 ten martial arts? wonder how it was scored or picked?... how very silly/strange....

SCA is martial sport.

Teachness balance, footwork, confidence, speed and the ability to be hit.
by Jean Paul de Sens
Sun Oct 20, 2002 8:59 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: missing person
Replies: 14
Views: 20

A couple of follow up points... 1. In Ansteorra, a sufficiently heavy chain-mail aventail or camail IS considered the equivalent of a gorget. 2. In Ansteorra, Jade would be right. He would be king, and as such he is the highest authority in matters of objective judgement. 3. Foolish, foolish marshal...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Fri Oct 18, 2002 2:05 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Basket weave helm info.
Replies: 35
Views: 51

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Connor McEldridge: <B>Sir Sheridan, from Calontir fights in a helm like this. I have some pics somewhere, when I find them, I'll post them here. Connor</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUO...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Thu Oct 17, 2002 12:23 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: Pas at GWW (Pics
Replies: 11
Views: 13

I'm with Vitus... although I applaud the appearance of the barrier at more and more SCA events, so far I have seen two appalling things...

1) Sword and shield at the barrier...and
2) Rapier combat at the barrier...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Thu Oct 17, 2002 12:07 am
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: question about legality of an sca weapon
Replies: 25
Views: 14

Stoffel, in our kingdom those are A-OK. If I get another digital camera soon, I'll post pictures of some of my polearms...

Have fun with it, and look me up @ 3 kings or bordermarch melees and we'll do some pickup fights.... maybe include some period techniques?

Jean Paul
by Jean Paul de Sens
Thu Oct 17, 2002 12:01 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Babes
Replies: 118
Views: 294

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bexter12: <B> I am sooo ribbing you guys. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/smile.gif If I can suffer through a thread about "babes" in armour, you can handle a couple beard jok...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 16, 2002 5:37 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: shears
Replies: 13
Views: 11

Evan, the biggest difference in then Beverly B1 (which is what the harbour freight knock off is a copy of) regards to quality control and exactness. The HF shear will eventually do the same job as the Beverly, but it has to be tweaked and modified to do so. Case in point, the HF shear I have the bla...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 16, 2002 1:47 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: You Look Stupid.
Replies: 96
Views: 165

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lion du Fay: <B> But, really, how difficult is it to wear a pair of hosen? I have a pair, and I have only been in the SCA for a month. Wearing sweatpants after so many years in...
by Jean Paul de Sens
Wed Oct 16, 2002 1:43 pm
Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
Topic: SCA Combat vs. Historical Combat In My Shire...
Replies: 39
Views: 20

Hey Joaquin!! I've also experienced this gentle's enthusiasm for using period sources to justify current SCA actions. And I feel you are correct in thinking that any person going into research to "prove" on line of though will invariably find enough evidence to prove it. He has a purpose for his res...

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