The Armour Archive

RandallMoffett

Ivo, Yeah I was able to get pictures of the ones they took. I agree it is not a full breastplate but I think it goes to about the bottom of the rib cage at the front toward the sternum likely a bit lower at least and that the lower plates continue down to or past the grion. I think it goes lower tha...

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Erik, In our town archive of artifacts there are a good score to two score of pieces I think can be assumed to be armour of the COP variety from 1350 or before. Most are shapes that remind me of the more complicated Wisby models (lots of small plates over the side and lower extremes) with rivets wit...

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Erik, I did not think it was putting the cart to far in front of the horse. I have the outer shell together, plates cut, filed and holes punched but have not peened the rivets yet as I did not want to put it down until I figured out the fauld situation. It was one of those last minute things that as...

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I would look at the bevor pattern on the Armour Archive pattern link. Then I would get a black pen and mark the areas that you want to modify with a cardboard piece. Then once you have a cardboard model that works trace it on metal and once more sharpe the lines into it (looks like yor have two fron...

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Jiri,

Just an idea. Always looking for ideas on the large variety of aRmour. I just was wondering if anything caught you eye as perhaps why they were different. Thanks for the info.

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Nice. I love when things like that happen...
Enoy the read.

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Yeah thay is how it works now. I sent the money and got an email from them telling me when the had sent the book. % days later it was at mt door.

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sorry. I should have been more clear. Just lower abdomen-thigh protection. I have seen some cool recreations but want to make mine as good as I can as it will be for presentations.

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So I have a questions that might have no real answer. I am trying to make what would be the Coat of Plate of a knight or men at arms of the middle range of wealth around 1350ish (to about 1370). I have made the torso protection but am trying to figure out faulds. Many of the effigies from the mid 14...

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Jiri, I do not suppose you got to look at suit 5? The gaunts seemed almost 1/2-1/3 heavier than the rest. Do you think the suit looks of high workmanship? It had two master marks on it so I was curious if it perhaps was a quality comparison. Did it look like it had a bevor originally or not? Shame t...

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Very nice work. I like it. It seems like it moves very well too. I hope you get to keep this one and do not have to sell it.

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Some of the sallets that are shown are very interesting, very unique items, especially the sallets. For you sallet lovers this books has two that are a must see. On it a very strang shaped one with a very square visor and laminated neck guard and it is painted with flames from the bottom up toward t...

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Rob and all you other people, Got my copy (though I live in the U.K. now but used email to communicate so it should be the same- sporadic yep. I do not think the lady who sends the emails works everyday or if she does she does not answer emails every day). The catalogue is great. Every item had pict...

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Klaus,

Did you right that article? I did not know you knew other langauges. It was a good read. Nice pictures as well.

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Bert,

We could hope. If they are like most museums they likley have a very limited expense account.... its hard to compete with the wealthy. I would like to know it gets the reseach it deserves.

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If some fifty or a hundred of us get together we could buy it....

Are there any pictures of the extra plates not shown?

Chains are so weird.... Though the look kinda cool I would never put them on mine... just not me,

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something to keep in mind... this is the minimum. The local law would actually verify you had the goods too. There are some cases of bribes being paid though..... to look the other way perhaps. From some of the inventories form the 14th and 15th in York some of the citizens were loaded. Full suits, ...

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I was going to say that most monachs after do something similar as well but figured that might be wrong....

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Found this online....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assize_of_Arms

http://www.answers.com/topic/assize-of-arms

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It has been a time since I read the first one but my notes are in latin soooo it very likely is in latin. Just a heads up. It could be repeated in Statutes of the realm which is pretty common. Things get repeated over an over again there and sometimes will make statments 'as in the time of our fathe...

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I guess I missed this post last night before bed. Of Course it has a source. (it rhymed) Charters and other illustrations of English Constitutional History from the earliest times to the reign of Edward I, 1913- 181-182. It resides in the Public Records Office in copies of the manuscript and the ori...

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It is a summary. I think it is in latin though originally....

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sorry, 1181. This is just to residents of his lands. It seems to indicate he wanted minimun armour. Many would have exceeded this likely as they would be wearing it if needed. knights fee-hauberk, helmet, shield goods or income over: 16 marks- hauberk, helmet, shield 10 marks- short hauberk, iron he...

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Primus,

I do not usually crosspost but here is another formed COP.

http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=9286

German mid 14th,

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Russ, Sorry to hear that. The housebooks sound promising. Right now I am looking through lots of regnal records and civic records. It seems most fair to well off towns kept pretty good records here in england although much has not survived. Are the codices unpublished or undigitalized? Sounds very n...

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Very nice, I would love to see the pictures.

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Do you know what country this was from or which crusade? Henry II made arms and armour requirements for his citizens by wealth in the 1160's I think. I have it written down if that is what you are thinking of. I also have req's for ED II and ED III's reign for Men at arms, hobilars and armed men (st...

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Russ, AS always fun talking with you. If you are ever in England we should have lunch. It is a very interesting aspect of history. What are some of the major works from Hungray? Do that have any published regal records like the close or patent rolls of England? Any of it translated into English? Tak...

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Russ, Yeah I have heard of RMA, though I read to keep up on it but do not write in regards to it... So the seven rock throwing devices That Batu was left designs to build.... are there any contemporary descriptions besides 'like the hungarians had not seen before?' Sounds interesting they figured a ...

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Russ, I honestly would love to hear what you have to say. I think it seems eastern europe in general sadly gets resigned to people who are outside their normal sphere and do not have the language and location needed to study it as it is needed. Quick question not wanting to derail your rant. I notic...

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earnest, I do not think he was honestly claiming wales and scotland were really vast military powers. MY guess was sarcasm. To be fair in the 14th and 15th England had become quite the military power. English mercinaries in almost every country in western christendom and Burgundy and France, two of ...

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Russ, I assume this is a new book or something? I feel your pain. Some people should just not write at all. At the least they should do their homework properly before writing. Or takr classes on rational thinking (I took stress management instead ). You know something that bothers me now is when you...

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Congrats! Happy hammeri.... I mean planishing and wheeling.

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James, I am not quite sure I understand the construction you are describing. I am going to make a new padded coif and aketon and if you have another method let me know as I am always up to try something else (I also have a wife who is one of the sewing master people so I have a good in house tutor)....

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Josh, Thats my point. It is like trying to put a firm name on most textile armour . I think there were infinite types and styles of this plates hauberk. COP's could open from the side or back as the Wisby find indicates. I think there were fairly complete backplates in teh second half of the 14th, j...

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