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RandallMoffett

Michael,

I hope that you are OK.

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This is very interesting post. I love CoP's, so little is really solid it is very interesting as their is alot of room to move and speculate. As far as I know it sufferes from the same issue as most torso armour of this ear, the surcoat. I have found lots of records of them between 1320-1370 in the ...

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Dave,

very, very nice. I hope you get years of use out of it.... I mean for none plundering of course

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I agree with Wulfe,

If you make it all one piece it becomes a hindrance. I have some pictures of one I made in one piece somewhere.... I will look but I would do it seperate of spaulders.

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geoffrey,

lookin' good I say. I always think it is a good idea to have the customer near to test the fit. I use bolts and nuts temporarily to get it to work and see how it goes. Let us know how it turns out.

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I think something that comes up here is the fact that after him the line of Douglas's are the 'Black' Douglas's. I believe he was the one who served RObert Bruce and was taking his heart to Jerusalem when he was killed. The 'Black' Douglas in 1455 at Arkenholm the line gets pretty much destroyed by ...

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Alexander, Agreed. I typically only take one to three jobs at a time to avoid large email and so I can keep people up dated. I cannot even imagine what it would be like to be taking huge numbers of orders because I could never keep track of it all. I took a group order of twenty helmets and that tur...

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CAT,

You need to teach me how you make your etching come out so nice in leather. I am very impressed (and jealous).

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Congrats! Good to hear that things are settling down for you. I cannot imagine how much work it has taken to get set up again. Take care and happy hammering!

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make sure you let us know when its out. Thanks for the link.

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Russ, I would like to read this article. I cannot think of any other way to explain the translation in Fudge beside being moved forward to force the enemy either back away from them or inside the circle, fairly offensive to me it seems. OF course I had no idea much was done on hussites besides the a...

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Wulfe, I would be grateful. The arm harness sounds to be along the lines of what most limb armour I have seen being about 1.2mm. If you like I could get some notes togther on the stuff I have looked at but am hoping to get something more detailed out in the 'near' future, (hopefully) we have some ch...

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I especially like your bevor attachment. Very useful. It looks very nice indeed. For a first helmet I'df say you did excellent. Do you have a background in metalworking because if not you have learned very quickly, very well.

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Wulfe, What have you researched that helped you arrive at your thicknesses? I have never heard anything that low and thought I was familiar with most of the works that have come out on it unless these are unpublished works. The 14th century pieces I have handled do not meet any of your guides on the...

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HEW,

Very very funny. Where do you find this stuff at??? I like the axe site.... bizzar but funny.

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btmcrae, It definatly could be a factor as can deposits that are found in poor condition that have been corroded. In the end we can basically only measure what we have to go with but it is a possibility. I have heard some people's SCA armour has dropped an entire gauge of thickness over long years o...

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Wulfe, I hate to disagree but I work with late medieval armour and early modern armour and as I said before do not think your gauges are quite right. I measure thicknesses of basically every part of armour I work with and in a number of places on said parts and I think claiming 18 gauge as a max thi...

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he disproved your assessment of the role of the noble estate or that the wagons were mobile or something else. I should stop posting until my brain recovers from all the reading and typing I did to day....

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Russ, I did find somethings on Mattias but very little. From Fudge's book it seems the sources state the wagons even played a semi-mobile role opening passages then closing people in and also moving forward to engulf men. I am interested in the light cavalry they used as well. Seems pretty interesti...

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Wulfe, Where did you find your thicknesses? Not as it is a huge issue but from what I have handled the numbers sound too thin. I would guess closer to 19/18 and heavier depending what part and where than 22. If you got it from Valentines online chart be careful I think it is very small sample size i...

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Russ, Interesting. Are there any more sources in English? I found Fundge very interesting. I really think there is a long way to go with hussite research. I really think something should be done on the war wagons used in eastern europe. Most of the battles really indicate this as a key to their fiel...

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either that or do not open.....EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I lool like one of that cirque de soleil chicks... I hope not those people scare me........ I had only been afraid of one thing in life then there were two. Your picture looks great. I am very impressed with it. I wish I could draw that well! I was told armouring would help with my drawing skills b...

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Josh,

I assume by its look that it is a solid breastplate like on the one at the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum, Munich or the two they have at the churburg. By 1360 I do not see why the prince of England would not have a complete solid one piece breastplate.

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I thought it was very punny.... I mean funny...

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montecristo, I think that armour thicknesses are a very tricky topic. Having been handling and meassuring thicknesses of armour for a little while now has given me a number more questions than when I started. The numbers that Professor Rogers listed can be considered top ones for the time from what ...

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Grimstone,

that is awesome. I really, really need one.... now to talk the wife into it.....

I found an inventory that lists a few springalds and some mangonels toghether but it appears for city defence not battlefields.

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Flittie, Russ, Good points. To be honest I had not thought about a few of those before. I think it makes alot of sense keeping the arrow point from catching a specific link. I especially think keeping mail clean also a very valid point, although I had always used a tabard for that but I suppose extr...

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Grimstone, I understand what you are saying now, thanks for that. I agree with you on that for sure. There are many people who have multiple jacks, bows, breastplate, sallet, etc. in inventories that I am sure do share the wealth or perhaps had to provide them for poorer people in their employ. Also...

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Grimstone, Definatly true that they were better off than the laborer. From the time of Edward IV, possible Henry VI evey male in england was required a jack, bow, arrows and a sallet. From looking through probate inventories not a person in York (including laborers) did not have these except the sal...

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Endre,

sorry that is very unclear. Over the armour and under it as well. Thannks for the information.

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Hew, THe Springalds and Mangonels are listed in the Calendar of the City of London's Letter books and the Calendar of Memoranda and Plea Rolls. I am sure both refer to traditional engines as they list parts for their repair and none relate to early firearms. I read a very good article on early firea...

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Endre, Do you think that this occured in France and England as well? I had never seen much to make me think it was but it looks like I should look into it somemore. Thanks for the references. DO you think it is possible they wore soemthing over and under as well? Josh, It brings to mind the story of...

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HEW, One does have to be careful as the same names often can apply to similar engines that to one person may not be the same. I noticed they had no springalds on the website, that's a shame. Nice stuff though. I think the term catapult may be similar in use to engine as well. In the late 14th to the...

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Aside from art is their any indication for wearing padding over mail in western europe? I have not come across any but it would be interesting. I had assumed it still served as padding, perhaps it was a more thickly padded garment and therefore went over. In England at least in the reign of Henry VI...