The Armour Archive

RandallMoffett

Yes but that public money likely would not cover the huge amount to make safe and accommodating cases for the arms and armour. That is the issue. I am not economic historian but sometimes I do feel that every single theme seems to end there.

RandallMoffett

To me the real answer is finding a way to make something more like what every person here expects a museum to be. Something that has access to the objects there (To a degree). The issue is I see many private collectors as not wanting to really promote the items they have either. There were several i...

RandallMoffett

Chef, I am sure that is true. You have to pay more for the crew. That said there is a operating standard and skeletal crew which is good enough.... at times. No doubt Ed II has high expectations. He did so in most thing and no doubt led to his removal from office. Which horribly expensive book is th...

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"Obviously, armor and weapons are NOT trash, but still, SELL IT! It should be painfully obvious that private collectors are willing to spend billions to appreciate things that nobody else really wants. Why not stop treating them as criminals (unless they ARE, of course!) and let them finance your fu...

RandallMoffett

Nope. None are royal ships. These are expectations on English ships in general. Just Edward II micromanaging. He starts to stipulate what it means to be fully crewed so to speak. Just because you can get by with fewer men does not mean people, perhaps Ed II, thought it was the best way for them to r...

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Ernst, (I should note that getting out of a mail haubergeon is much faster than getting out of a pair of plates -- something which might have been a consideration on a sinking vessel.) Really? I could cut laces off in seconds. And if it has buckles even easier. I am hesitant to follow the mail for l...

RandallMoffett

As well slag is all but missing in modern wire. One of the easiest ways is to look at it for slag which shows up in many preindustrial irons.

RandallMoffett

Somewhere I can across a general guide on the number of crew men recommended for ships by size. I will look around tonight for it once I get back from work.

RandallMoffett

'Coats of plates often don't have them. Like many torso defenses, they primarily focus on the upper torso. Maille would be worn under it and the shirt of maille would protect the lower torso, hips, and upper legs. Steve' That is only partially true. It is clear some did and some did not. Thorgrimr, ...

RandallMoffett

Chef,

Yes but we know he sold the boats and most of the stuff on them so I suspect he had more there. It is listed as the remains of the ships in the will. But yes that could bee depending ont he ships. Soton tends to have fairly large ships for trade though as well by this point.

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RandallMoffett

In my earlier post I put up how c. 1300 ships may have been equipped so I will not repeat it but here are some more. I have a fairly large collection but some interesting accounts. In 1322 Soton took these off of some ships that were in harbor. 'pairs of plates, bascinets, collarets, gauntlets, cuis...

RandallMoffett

Ckanite , Still no heraldry so not a knight as all the knights in the MS seem to be fairly well Id'd so I'd still say footman but likely better equipped or wealthier so yes. But we'd be wrong to assume all pedes were armed the same, same with armed men and men-at-arms. InsaneIrish, Why assume that s...

RandallMoffett

I would say mostly but not always. Very few things in life are always. AS well I suspect it was not just a one off guy as well. That said I think most had open helmets. My feeling is it was economically based. Here is a bunch of footmen trying to beat up a knight with clubs. Front guy has a visor. h...

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I do not want to discount the art but every ship inventory I have seen that is in-depth includes weapons, most armour as well. I am working on a paper on Soton and piracy and if it is an indication of other English ports (Which for those in the Cinque ports and such it likely is) few ships would hav...

RandallMoffett

Sailors did have to fight. In fact I suspect the sailors would have played a big part of battles like Sluys as there is no place for them to withdraw to. In England it is very common to see ships that are merchant vessels being fairly well armed due to largely pirates but pirates may not be what you...

RandallMoffett

I cannot either. That said you do indeed see reqs for common soldiers including archers very early.

RandallMoffett

I have wanted to do some Japanese armour for some time. Neat work as well. Some of the people on this forum are very good at helping to improve our game so it is a good place to come to progress.

Where did you come across your name? I played a card game with a character by that name.

RPM

RandallMoffett

what is a pipe fitting knock-off Steve?

RandallMoffett

Wade, I agree US institutions are different and have a few ideas on why but I have never actually tried but if I do I will let you know. I have been into quite a few in Europe and had 0 problems so far. Even got to sift through boxes or 'iron fragments' on a few occasions. Not seeing how this is muc...

RandallMoffett

Wade, I think that depends on the person and the items. There are loads of items that are gone into private collections that I suspect will be 'lost' so to speak until the owner dies or goes broke. For the most part I have had good luck with most collections in gaining access to see them. I think mo...

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You never know what you find when doing spring cleaning!

http://news.yahoo.com/6-500-old-noah-sk ... 16525.html

RPM

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Stupid spell checker. Should have been latten. Guess it was not part of the words in the dictionary. But yes I suspect kitten decorations could be cute if not a bit messy to apply.

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No but can any prove they ever used butted links in period might be a good place to start as well. As to integral coifs and mittens art shows them but as was said none in enough detail to see riveted or butted but I'd go back to my first point on that one. I know of no evidence for butted mail in pe...

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No but very similar... I really want to find something like that, seeing how many nicer 14th century armours had kitten decoration I did not think it'd be so hard to find on a kettle helmet...

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Ernst,

I figured it was. The shape is very 15th century-esque.

I'll keep looking.

RPM

RandallMoffett

Aelric,

That is just what I was looking for! I think it is likely 15th though but I'll go with it considering other 14th century helmets with latten borders like it.

Thanks,

RPM

RandallMoffett

Aelric!

Thanks will go and see it.

RPM

RandallMoffett

I am wondering if they ever did such decoration in the later 14th. I have seen some great modern repros but am hoping to find some evidence for it being done.

RandallMoffett

Very cool looking gun!

RandallMoffett

I just want it for decoration, strips of brass and such not complete coverage.

RPM

RandallMoffett

Ernst,

Thanks for the help. I do like the idea of a plume holder as well.

RandallMoffett

So I am working on a kettle helmet for a friend. Time frame last quarter of the 14th century. Nobleman. So I want to add some brass work to the helmet to make it look like something a Earl might wear. I have one single small little drawing of what looks like a coronet on the kettle helmet just above...

RandallMoffett

If these started out as stabilization for great helms why is it we really do not see them until c1400? Seems like by this point the hay day of great helms was largely gone.

RPM

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worldantiques,

There is one very fine weave hauberk or haubergeon at the Wallace. I had some online photos of it. Might not be this fine but when I saw it the mail was amazing. The RA has another with very closely woven links but the wire itself was much finer.

RPM

RandallMoffett

'The inner diameter of an individual link doesn't matter as much as the size of the gaps in the weave. The gaps in decent mail are effectively zero. The MET has a video showing that they can't stick a pin through it.' The problem with this comment is the assumption of what 'decent' mail really is. F...

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