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RandallMoffett

Cannot wait to meet up with you all. Should be great fun!

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RandallMoffett

Signo,

Why do you say that? We have textual evidence for archers shooting from the back ranks?

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RandallMoffett

You do not think that this "You know so little about what you are talking about that it is impressive." Is a good way to teach? "And your probably thinking this guy is an ass and this never works when in actuality it works well and I've even been thanked after giving one person a year or two of abus...

RandallMoffett

No doubt your criticism are right for the video I posted but once again Steve this is my point and you just walked right past. I already said that was the case. I already said the video was not perfect and listed a number of flaws... but that is what I am trying to get across. My point is there is 0...

RandallMoffett

Yes because as we all know MA has a monopoly on good information.... and tack. He may be wrong but there are better ways to go about it.

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RandallMoffett

maybe copius there.

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RandallMoffett

So would making the minting city a place that is made up or not real be enough?

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RandallMoffett

Yes that was my meaning. Sure I did, the cookie sheet is about the same as all these videos for the most part. I put one up that showed deep metal penetration and you said no. It is flawed all over. I said it was but my point is you are hardly as critical in respect to any of the other ones showing ...

RandallMoffett

I hope this sells as it is lovely. If I could I would get it for sure. I have always loved this look and the cool shoulder defenses are a neat addition.

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RandallMoffett

Just a quick look at late 15th century art from Germany, France and England shows very little evidence to me of a strict rule one way or the other. I think one would have to look over far more than the ones I did. Lots of images with guys on horseback with the smaller spaulders. I think James has a ...

RandallMoffett

Steve, It is a joke that backyard testing is hardly largely humorous and ridiculous and to me hardly reliable for evidence. I would not lose my hope in humanity over this debate either way I suspect. It is not something that keeps me up at night. I do find it amusing you are critical of the ones tha...

RandallMoffett

Very interesting. What is the earliest we see pleats like this?

They also look pretty different to modern pleats in many ways. It is interesting how short they appear to be on most of the remaining garments. More gathers.

Neat info though for sure.

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RandallMoffett

That makes sense. It is interesting to look at originals. Some time in the future I would not mind getting some originals. I had a teacher who had some crusader era coins he would show us in our crusader class. Some had interesting wear which makes me wonder how fast coins wear from use or if it was...

RandallMoffett

It is very interesting that coins out of circulation as old as these are still protected in this fashion to me. With money counterfeiting it seems copying 100 dollar bills that are out of date might still be accepted and hence not acceptable but if you tried to sell a coin that was hundreds of years...

RandallMoffett

The Blood Red Roses book has some pretty good info as well.

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RandallMoffett

How about using a town that was not a mint?

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RandallMoffett

So I should be good then. I am trying to get as close to original as possible but do indeed not wish to serve time in jail, pay fines or break any laws in general.

Thanks!

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RandallMoffett

"Virtually all the backyard testing on YouTube seems to corroborate this idea."

Honestly I am loosing faith in humanity because comments like this.

RandallMoffett

That is true. I think they had for their time an incredible amount of medical treatments in the medieval period. But I would think it is also true they were more likely then than now to die from such a injury. People still do die from infections. Far more than most think actually. I think they are r...

RandallMoffett

Dan,

That is true art!

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RandallMoffett

Steve,

They were not supposed to be. None of the videos are, that was the point in my post about videos.

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RandallMoffett

Here let me help you out. Both sides put up these videos so not surprising. The shuffle also resets every time I click the link. I should have known that would happen. These are two I just found from the shuffle very quickly that do indeed show the point. I am sort of surprised you have missed the v...

RandallMoffett

That is interesting about the material. Seems a pro would know pewter from silver.... odd law.

Have a grinder and course file so maybe I will give it a go someday.

But I think I am going to made a ton of coins first. I plan on doing demo's for me history classes and other groups.

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Kel, Not sure it is entertaining or not but we are looking for something like the truth on the issue. We likely will never get to the truth entirely because the haze that sets in over time but this is about getting as close as we can to understanding it and that to me is entertaining in a way, perha...

RandallMoffett

Technically historically it likely was called a number of things but it is largely modernly called Corrazina.

Caius is very correct on the faulds. I'd make sure to look into this before making them. Most think the vertical plates are not correct for the period.

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RandallMoffett

Steve,

This could keep you busy for some time.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... rsus+armor

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RandallMoffett

Steve,

You need to see more of the backyard tests them. I am sure Dan could point some out that he has ripped apart for you. both sides have them and they come up like bad pennies.

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RandallMoffett

Derian, I am very interesting in this casting of your own sheet. I have not worked with pewter that was liquid since the early part of the last decade. With the aluminum blanks are they really light compared to pewter? I was wondering about the legal act on coins you mention from the 70s. If made in...

RandallMoffett

Kel, I do not think I am missing the point, though I will admit that I do not own any monopoly on info related to this topic and there are likely many places I could find more info and learn more no doubt. I have about 20 years of doing this and even did a while doing jousting and was invited recent...

RandallMoffett

Sig,

I did earlier. Hard to say one way or the other though.

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RandallMoffett

Casting ingots into blanks. Interesting. I had never even thought of that.

Thanks for the links. Will explore them.

I plan on doing some demos but they would have to be indoors..... -2 yesterday when I left the house.

Thanks again,

RPM

RandallMoffett

Dan, "If a particular piece of armour didn't work then it was made thicker. Why would anyone bother wearing a vambrace that was 1.2mm thick if it didn't work? It is just as easy to make it 1.5mm thick." Not sure this logic stands. Same can be said about weapons. To me it is about relative protection...

RandallMoffett

Kel, I can see it depending on thickness of the material and weight but penetration with sharp weapons is a different thing from BFT and rebated thrusts. I think this would change thrusts remarkably if they had sharp points. A sword point is going to have far better time piercing than 3mm plus thick...

RandallMoffett

Where is the best place to get sheet pewter?

How do you make your coin blanks?

And when you do period demos how do you do this as it is sort of loud? What tools do you use?

Thanks,

RPM

RandallMoffett

Agreed but first you are still saying padding. Some think only clothing was worn under plate. The stopping power of a two layered arming garment is pretty low. Unless the garment is significant I doubt highly it'd do much besides soak up some of the blood. So basically what I am saying is there is a...

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