The Armour Archive

Mad Matt

Cynaguan: You posted while I was typing. That helm is perfectly appropriate for the 14th century depending on where you're from. Well actually all the stuff below the brim isn't appropriate but that can be easily hidden with a false coif and ventail once again lemme know if you need explanation of t...

Mad Matt

Actually just went and had a look at the westlig stjerne site and they do make something that's more along the lines you're looking for. It's in the Historical armour section though. http://www.armourworks.com/Historical.htm But basically all it'd need is the underlying skirting added on which is pr...

Mad Matt

Actually Clay the one at Westlig Stjerne is based off of the ones seen in the Macejowskie (sp for sure) bible. Which is from a time much earlier then the 15th c. 12th I think but my brain no work good today. I think what Karl's looking for is the one piece bell shaped type? Is that correct? If so ba...

Mad Matt

Ok like I said historic recreation. Ie. monks not only shun weapons but also fighting. either that or they're hospitalers who fight with the same armour and weapons as everyone elce but wear nifty clothes denoting their order and take orders from the church instead of a lord or king etc. Yup there's...

Mad Matt

Ok the SCA is a sorta historical recreation society. So RPG stuff generally doesn't apply. Leather armour is easier then plate stuff. The tools for leather armour are much cheaper. The materials are much more expensive. ------------------ The budding mid 14th century German Transitional guy. Mad Mat...

Mad Matt

Ok confusion again. I didn't say you were bashing anyone. I said it seemed like you thought I was bashing you. Anyway you cleared that up and everything's happy. Anyway on the maille thing. In the Oxford dictionary: mail n. armour of metal rings or plates [french maille from Latin macula]. Which mea...

Mad Matt

Well I haven't actually made a pair but I have made some pointy stuff. Basically you'll want to use 14gauge if you do it this way because you'll be dishing pretty deep. Start by dishing a really deep elbow cop you should be able to get it sort of pointed by dishing more in the center then the outsid...

Mad Matt

Ok the other subject may have been a little misleading. Anyway basically everyone is invited. It takes place in Ontario Canada it's not limited to people from Ontario. It's free but BYO everything. Camping space is available. It'll take place during the last weekend of July. You can find all the inf...

Mad Matt

Ok well I might be going crazy and imagining this but did you offer to cut me some helmet pieces and bring them to the Armourers gathering? If if you did could you let me know and I'll make up the patterns and mail them to you. It's basically just some sugarloaf parts minus the tops from 14ga mild. ...

Mad Matt

Ok I really don't understand this. Here I am trying to help you out by answering your questions and giving you tips on what will get you better answers around here and not piss people off. Basically I'm trying to help here. The word maille actually means armour with no distinction as to the type and...

Mad Matt

Gundo was referring to the metals questions. Master of all things maille would indicate a good working knowledge of metals both modern and historical. Tootin your own horn generally tends to irritate people here. If something's meant to be a joke put a smiley in so the people reading it will know th...

Mad Matt

Go here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505/page9.html You'll have to navigate to the lamelar section though. And here: http://www.geocities.com/kaganate/index.html Where you'll also need to do some navigation. ------------------ The budding mid 14th century German Transitional guy. Mad Ma...

Mad Matt

That's the article I was talking about thanks for the link Steve. Just had a thought. With your limited tools and budget and your knowledge of maille you might want to start off with some maille and plate type armours. Here's a site with lots of reference material so you can see what I'm talking abo...

Mad Matt

Ok well if you're just going to buy one sheet of steel go with 16 gauge. Historical thickness varied from part to part as well as depending on time periods and even within a single piece. But 16 gauge will be a little heavier overall but will pretty much all stand up. You're probably going to need m...

Mad Matt

For leather 4-6 oz with a medium temper (stiffness).

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Mad Matt

Sounds just like mine. Same on the front and the back though with the plates at the top of the back just being bigger then the ones at the front. I also put plates on the dags to protect from hip and butt shots. You can see the pics here: http://www.geocities.com/madmattsarmory/cop.html Click the th...

Mad Matt

Well you'll need to be more specific on some of those. Combat ready for what type of combat? For the tools what's your budget for now? Materials used for plate armour. Aluminum, stainless steel, mild steel and high and medium carbon steel. Mild steel is the best to start with because it's cheap and ...

Mad Matt

Ok well since my friendly neighbourhood sceneshal has pointed out to me all the local and Pensic SCA happenings it seems like the last weekend in July is going to be the best since most of the people who will attend will likely be SCA people. If a lot of people don't like this date it could be chang...

Mad Matt

Ok well I've got the splint off now during the day and in a little less then a week I won't be wearing it at night either so it's time to nail down a date for the postponed gathering. I think that we'll go for a range of the last two weekends in July to but not including (company picnic) the last we...

Mad Matt

Actually if it's only tight in the back then whoever made the hauberk didn't tailor it properly and the back is the same width as the front. So split the back starting from the center of the neck hole right down to the bottom. Then add in about 2-3" of maille and zip it back up. It'll fit much bette...

Mad Matt

Actually there are examples of it running every wich way in the same aventail. Basically you can run the rings any direction you want and it's historically accurate. But for blunt weapons like what is used in the sca the above mentioned is most effective. Now don't forget expansion. You'll want to s...

Mad Matt

http://www.thestrappingstore.com Just teasin http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/biggrin.gif Try saddle-shops locally or online look for brettuns village leather, or leather factory or siegels of california. Don't forget that it doesn't necessarily need to be in strap form when you buy it. -----------...

Mad Matt

Or if you wanted the aventail I'd be happy to trade for a pre-order for "Armour from the Battle of Wisby" in my name. Which can be done from here http://www.chronique.com and where all the info can be found. ------------------ The budding mid 14th century German Transitional guy. Mad Matt's Armory

Mad Matt

So any ideas when you'll be posting pics of some pretty churbourg #13 looking arms?

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Mad Matt

Cause I've got one for sale. Hmm maybe it should go on the auction page. Anyway if you were to have me make you one like this it would cost $125 plus shipping. I'll let this one go for $100. Same one that was attached to the bottom of that helm gundo was trying to sell. 5/16" id galvy 16 gauge with ...

Mad Matt

Hehe armour soaked in pitch would make flaming arrows REALLY effective. Just shoot one at one guy in the army and he runs around screaming and lighting all the other guys with the FLAMABLE armour. And fwoosh one little kid with a flaming arrow destroys an entire army. ------------------ The budding ...

Mad Matt

On the stainless thing. Mild steel cold or hot rolled is closer by far to being historically accurate. Stainless is a different color and is much further from something that would be accurate then mild. Plus mild steel rusts which provides a more historicall armour owning experience then the stainle...

Mad Matt

Gee thanks mister. I'd forgotten that there are sites that link to mine all over the place. Guess I'll have to start notifying people.

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Mad Matt

Well the stupid popups from crosswinds were just getting too annoying. So I've moved my site to geocities. The new address is http://www.geocities.com/madmattsarmory/ or just click the link in my sig. Shorter url too. Anyway just a note so that if anyone's got a bookmark they can update it. I'll be ...

Mad Matt

Well I'd be interested if I had any money. But on the pro armourer thing. You'll have to undercut by a fair bit the prices of a standard shop that would have this type of equipment. The reason for this is that a pro armourer 99% of the time has a shop with this type of equipment within an easy drive...

Mad Matt

Actually the sabatons I posted the link to the pictures of DON'T articulate on rivits. The plates are just rivited to the leather and not to each other. They're expensive because there's a good bit of leather a bunch of plates to shape and a butload of rivits. ------------------ The budding mid 14th...

Mad Matt

Actually you're allowed to destroy up to a certain amount per day. Something like $1.37 or something like that. This is because the copper in a penny is worth more then a penny so at one time when pennies were made purely from copper (I think there was something like this with dimes at one time too)...

Mad Matt

Ok the images from Aaron are up now. I cropped them so they'd be a little more dialup friendly. Anyway click this: http://www.crosswinds.net/~mad666matt/wisbysab.html And you'll see them. Sorry crosswinds doesn't allow direct linking to images so I had to put up a stupid little page of html and link...

Mad Matt

Yeah I'm perfectly happy to post the pattern pics still. Yesterday was a REALLY busy day at work and I didn't have a chance. Samuel: I post here to learn about and help others learn about making armour. The fact that sometimes people from here order stuff from me is just a fringe benifit. Basically ...

Mad Matt

Ok I'm going home in a few minutes and won't be back till tomorrow. So I'll just say this. I think that the pattern Aaron sent me is actually what the shaped plates will look like from the side. I can completly understand how this confusion could happen and I could also be completly wrong. Anyway Ma...

You're invited to the Ontario Armourers Gathering.

Hey Meridian.

Ontario armourers gathering 2001 date requests.

Anyone need an aventail?

Moved my armoury website.