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Baron Eirik

This is the next reference to track down:

Baron Eirik

By 1580, smoking was wide enough spread in Europe to have papal denuciation.

As for de Jerez (de Xerez), my wife (Bachelors in Spanish) recalls Church references to this incident. She will be checking to see if she still has that text. ILL sources are beginning to come in.

Baron Eirik

Got a book from the Indy library system that makes the same reference to Xerez running afoul of the Inquisition. ILL-ing its references.

Baron Eirik

Something to remember is that the History of tobacco smoking, as in formal and scholarly researched study, is damn thin. Prior to the 60's it would not have been considered worth studying, and after it became so politically charged that little has been written that wasn't biased to the writers agend...

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I've got three books on order thru ILL. I'm wondering where their references will lead, but it will be a couple weeks before they are in.

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could you look at running a small, localish lightweight contest/tournament in the summer for "under 12 months" only participants, see if giving them a goal to aim for inspires them? I like this idea. I'm stealing it. We got a half dozen new guys right now, I think they'd get a kick out of...

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They did my drinking horn: http://www.flickr.com/photos/70983023@N ... 671651575/

Seconded. He does awesome work.

Baron Eirik

X-posted to the Barony of Sternfeld(Indy) list.

Baron Eirik

Guys, this is gonna take some digging. I've got some books requested on ILL. But, honestly, I'm betting that they are going to lead to earlier source material. This is an obscure bit history we're trying to track down, so I'd recommend holding off on the snap judgments.

Baron Eirik

Damn. University ILL service is closed over break. It will be 1/4 before they process my requests.

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Generally speaking, probably. But it does not mean that the Jerez incident did NOT happen. Or that it did. Might be apocryphal, might just be obscurely documented. I've spent about a 1/2 hour total so far. I'll be hitting some online library catalogs over lunch. I'm not willing to say anything concl...

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That is more than a bit compressed. Smoking tobacco was a widely engaged in and popular habit in the country, from well prior to the Revolution, to the early 1970's. The demonization of tobacco on a wide scale, with popular backing began in the late 1960's, early 1970's. I meant that the history go...

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I read what you posted, and I read what Baron Erik posted (going to his link). Neither provides proof or even evidence that Rodrigo Jerez smoked,. In point of fact the Romano Pane reference from 1494 makes not a single mention of any of Columbus crew trying it - in every intance, it is a descriptio...

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I'm trying to track down the source material from this site ------------ Excerpts 1492-11: Jerez and Torres Discover Smoking; Jerez Becomes First European Smoker Rodrigo de Jerez and Luis de Torres, in Cuba searching for the Khan of Cathay (China), are credited with first observing smoking. They rep...

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Underdone "Vikings"

Apparently need to bake longer.

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Sweet

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It's as much about time with the shield or weapons as anything. I fight using my shield almost every week, and do nothing in the way of formal exercise the rest of the time. My shield ways about 8 pounds and I can use it all day. This past Tuesday I borrowed another guy's shield since mine has a bro...

Baron Eirik

Leo Medii wrote: I never realized how much better I'd be at weed fencing if I simply wore my pajamas to the field!

Sir Ix has that angle ....er... covered.

Baron Eirik

Unless there is a medical reason behind it, using a shield is just a new & unfamiliar use of the muscles, and that will make spaghetti arms on even strong guys. If it's just fatigue, training will build up the stamina. If there is pain or tendon weakness, there may be something more involved.

Baron Eirik

One, the SCA ain't the same as a public school (although some people act like they're still in elementary .... ) And that case is why I said Putting such activities in a venue where people can not opt out? That's where you get into trouble. If you put the activity in the middle of the event, where i...

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I think giving people the option of opting out, though, should be done more than simply "not doing anything". No doubt, it's a fine line, a line I'd argue that can't be ignored. If there is something you want to see happen at an event or events, Then YOU do it. Organize it, find other lik...

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However, I still say it's pretty much on topic, if only with too much detail: we're talking about how modern perspectives on a) modern faith and religion and/or b) medieval faith and religion can significantly affect our understanding (and therefore our recreation) of other periods. Trying to reall...

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And we're back to

Life is off-topic.

Baron Eirik

If you are thinking of fighting, you might scan through the Armour: I want to be a... forum. Lotsa good stuff there.

Baron Eirik

come to think of it, it's exactly tip cuts that should be the most powerful ones - Define 'tip'. If all that strikes is that first inch of the weapon, it will not penetrate armor far enough to have injured the opponent. And, actually, the weapon kinda torques against your hands because the new fulc...

Baron Eirik

Like many other historical aspects of our game, there is no forcing of participation or study. People will only learn and do what interests them. You can not 'make' them learn. I just want to be clear I don't think we need to make people learn anything about historical religion to play the game I j...

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Well, one significant issue with bringing aspects of religion into the SCA venue is : Which version? Even the Roman Catholic Church went thru several major changes over the span we cover. The Irish went their own way for a while due to a breakdown in communication. There's the whole Byzantine/Orthod...

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Discussion of "modern religion" off topic? Perhaps it's not directly ON the original topic of the thread. Nevertheless, the discussion highlights the strong emotions, prejudices, and fears concerning religion and how folks try to purge it not only from the modern world, but from the past....

Baron Eirik

In no particular order : -- Anyone being 'in your face' about their religion is annoying, in the SCA or anywhere else. If someone is being to over the top about historic validity of their faith, they probably need to tone it down. Religious respect goes both ways, one must show it to others to recei...

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How to appropriately represent the religious life in the Middle Ages -- somewhat on topic (imo)

Who's imaginary friend is more period -- not so much. Valid for a different thread, but not in one discussion annoying inaccuracies.

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Dudes,

Can religion discussion please go to an OT or Political thread?

Baron Eirik

Assuming it's that SCA we're discussing.... As an occasional thing, for camaraderie, sure. A 'Ladies League', no, and hell no to a separate Order of Chivalry. Get on the 300 lb gorilla to fight according to the rules, and not be a weeble. If he's not acknowledging blows, from any fighter, lady or lo...

Baron Eirik

meh. Straw bales are inexpensive and safe to fall into, visible and not obtrusively modern. I don't care the mold levels in some, but as a portable, temporary material for SCA scenarios, they work. And don't need stored and maintained between events.

Baron Eirik

MJBlazek wrote:
Baron Eirik wrote:Has this drifted far enough to be a new thread yet?

ya think?

It's Monday, so thinking is slow at best.