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- Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:46 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Greathelm Construction
- Replies: 6
- Views: 228
I suggest AGAINST using metals softer than steel for use in a combat helm despite the fact that they look very pretty. YMMV. Happy hammering, please post pics when you are done. Sean Does this include for decorative trim? I always thought a early period helm would look really cool copper plated. It...
- Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:27 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Question about Plastic Armors?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 519
Metal is really the best way to go for cops. Simple, unpolished metal cops are really very, very affordable. That said, if you get plastic very hot - in an oven - you can mold it over a metal cop, or if you are just doing simple boiling, you can cut a roughly rectangular piece of plastic and then m...
- Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:14 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Greathelm Construction
- Replies: 6
- Views: 228
Historicly speaking, the panels of a great helm were riveted together and a safe helm can be made for the SCA and most Larps without welding. Rivets can be purchased from Mcmaster-carr, R.J.Leahy and several industrial supply houses including some farm equipement suppliers. They come in mild, stainl...
- Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:11 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Green Lane Demo (link to pictures)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 155
Wow! Well done! Some of you have armour that's almost as spiffy as mine This is SCA? Do you guys look this good all the time, or only for public demos? I'd like to see your spiffy suit. I always seem to have my back to the camera but at least there is a good picture of my new demo shield: m The onl...
- Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:40 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: (SCA) split rattan weapons
- Replies: 12
- Views: 301
As I understand it... Split rattan pole arms is a piece of 18"-24" ratan split lengthwise and then attached with glue and tape to the front and back of a ratan shaft. The end result resembles more of a boar-spear than anything in the pole-axe family. From what I have felt by being hit with them (I d...
- Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:56 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: New Armor Quickly?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 297
New Armor Quickly?
My shire has a potential new fighter who is the antithisis to the newbies we usually help armor. He is in his early 40's has a well paying salary and is willing to jump in head first but would rather spend money than time building his own armor. I'm looking for recomendations for armorers who have q...
- Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:35 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Fluting properties?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 217
Strength is a funky term. Fluteing armor makes a piece STIFFER and less likely to dent or bend perpendicular to the direction of the flutes. Bending in the same direction of the flutes is reasonably the same (assuming aneal to remove the work hardening) Fluteing will do noting to prevent a bullet fr...
- Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:31 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Bench idea
- Replies: 5
- Views: 290
Benches serve many purposes. I have fixed wall benches moveable benches for better lighting, large top saw horses and layered wood benches for stakes. Without re-drawing my blueprints: Wall Bench: 4x8' of 3/4" pre-sanded plywood. Shelves, Back and sides, 4x8, 1/2". Have Home Depot cut the 3/4" and o...
- Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:44 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Copper Washer chain mail
- Replies: 4
- Views: 219
- Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:27 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Coat of Plates Questions
- Replies: 11
- Views: 291
I can forgive plastic on a COP since it will be hidden and rarly makes noise. My SPORT suit is kydex and 5-gallon pail plastic and it is hard to tell. My demo suit is stainless steel and wows the crowd. The best tool I know for cutting the bucket is a jig saw and wood cutting bit. Split the bucket d...
- Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:37 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: From Churburg... But what is it?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 523
I think I have seen other pictures of this brig. Surprisingly I think this IS right side out. Over time the fabric has stretched and deformed over the edges over the plates underneath untill the edges are clearly deliniated. In the picture I recall, the plates are small and horizontal with 3-4 rivet...
- Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:33 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Wisby Type 1 Riveting question.
- Replies: 3
- Views: 137
Wisby Type 1 Riveting question.
Wisby Type 1 Riveting question. I am helping a new fighter in our group upgrade armor. We are building him a (slightly modified) canvas covered Wisby type 1 coat of plates. The COP is the one with 3 vertical plates on the upper chest, 4-6 horizontal plates on the belly and assorted vertical plates a...
- Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:47 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: stake's height
- Replies: 3
- Views: 143
I asked the same question several months ago. The best answer is: It depends. The assumed answer for anvil faces is standing shoulders square make a fist and set the anvil face where your nuckles are. This is good for heavy pounding but not fine work. I prefer riveting somewhat higher. For raising a...
- Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:37 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Noob Question #3 (or is it 4, or 5..hmmm)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 181
I have a 12ga stainless close helm from Illusion Armory. My neck is just fine and I wouldn't trust my head and neck to anything lighter. A helm is not ment to deflect bullets, case hardening light gage steel would be fine for that. A helm protects by not deflecting in its elastic range (a function o...
- Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:33 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Heat treating aluminum, any pointers?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 139
- Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:29 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Just found a nice big chunk of railway track..now what?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 142
I had a track piece that long when I started. I handed it to a machine shop who cut it in 3 and I gave sections to friends who needed them. I use my track for tasks that I don't want to abuse my anvil with like drilling dimples in the face to keep from deforming round headed rivets. If I had ANOTHER...
- Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:22 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: A little hand protection that just got finished.
- Replies: 8
- Views: 513
Very beautiful. I love Schiavona's. The styling is so unique. I had one made for my heavy weapons sword years ago but I based it on my recolection of what they looked like. I was thinking of having a new one built but I am having trouble finding good pictures of originals (not reproductions) Can you...
- Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:46 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: [sca] What gives with the shield edging?
- Replies: 36
- Views: 916
Once upon a time, when I lived back in the midrealm, there was a minimum thickness requirement for shield edges of 3/4". At the time even my shield did not qualify. Now that I am back in the east kingdom I have the option of switching to something thinner but I prefer my siloflex edging. I think tha...
- Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:52 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: I despertly need fighters!
- Replies: 11
- Views: 458
- Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:43 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Painting or Powder coating Spring Steel?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 246
Let me say this again... lightest toughest material available with minimal maintenance = Titanium 16ga cold rolled can be replaced with 20 ga titanium for the same strength and it has the weight of 25ga mild steel. Not even spring steel can match it. Well it can match the strength to size issue but ...
- Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:58 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Painting or Powder coating Spring Steel?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 246
There are varieties of baked on enamels that are damn near indestructable... mind you the baking process COULD re-normalize the armor removing all the spiffy spring characteristics. For my oppinion, If I can ever afford period spring steel armor it will include period blackening techniques as well. ...
- Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:55 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Where do you fight?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 330
Where do you fight?
... and how did you arange to get the site? I was lucky to start in a group with strong college ties. The practice was on campus which was convenient for lack of transportation and recruiting. After graduating I've moved between several baronies and shires. I have fought in parks, churches, backyard...
- Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:48 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Modifying Museum Replicas gauntlets?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 239
Without seeing the inside and handling them myself it is very difficult to tell what the true source of the problem is. Any form of repair is going to be a complete disassembly, but that is a lot better than reshaping plates as well. You MIGHT be able to get away with using a forked shim as a spacer...
- Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:26 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Protecting Paint on Wooden Shields
- Replies: 2
- Views: 100
Protecting Paint on Wooden Shields
Hello All, I am in the process of finishing my new pretty shield for demo's. (of course the demo is this weekend... if it wasn't for last minutes things would never get done.) The shield is 2 pieces of 1/4" birch plywood, glued in a press, with glued canvas front, alluminum plywood edging, yellow pl...
- Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:57 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Rattan chair===> weapons???
- Replies: 7
- Views: 217
- Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:25 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Inconel X-750
- Replies: 14
- Views: 288
Inconell is what they use on jet engines when titanium wouln't take the load, because of the HEAT. I think you will get a better strength to weight ratio from titanium or maybe some 400 series stainlesses if you are looking for performance at temperatures that a human body can withstand. It will def...
- Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:57 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: (SCA) Knowing what you know now…
- Replies: 14
- Views: 549
And I was waiting for someone to mention "An ATTEMPT at medieval garb". There are so many things we talk about not being able to change with the SCA because of backwards compatibility or because it is written into corporra... Come on broad broush and big ideas here. Would you propose a start date ra...
- Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:14 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Dr. Victor VonDoom's Armour
- Replies: 13
- Views: 897
- Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:03 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Sheet titanium?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 474
I have a table I built to compare different thicknesses of material of different tempers. Assuming that the primary purpose for chosing thickness is resistance to bending: The standard for stainless lamellar seems to be 20ga (.0359") this is equivilent to .048" mild (.047" = 18ga) and is equivilent ...
- Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:37 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: was: blows from behind? was: Engagement- hyjacked, now: DDFB
- Replies: 114
- Views: 1308
If someone wraps a sword accross my grill in a meele and I am not activly engaged with an honorable fight with another opponant I'l probably say "Thanks, good" and drop to the ground. I have done so in the past. There are other melee's to fight in later. It dosn't have to be any harder than the posi...
- Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:16 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: (SCA) Knowing what you know now…
- Replies: 14
- Views: 549
(SCA) Knowing what you know now…
(SCA) Knowing what you know now… Lets say its 30+ years ago and you are sitting around a camp fire in someone’s backyard in Berkley California. A few people have wall-hanger grade steel swords on their hips, rattan is for lawn furniture, mild steel comes in one color: galvinized, butted...
- Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:23 pm
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Straping a late period shield.
- Replies: 3
- Views: 130
As shield to weapon contact is permitted I see no reason why I couldn't TRY to trap a weapon, but the shape is not particularly conductive for doing so... unless I use the shield AND a weapon, which I could do anyway or unless I used it to pin my opponants weapon while fighting at a barrier in which...
- Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:46 am
- Forum: Medieval Combat and Weapons
- Topic: Straping a late period shield.
- Replies: 3
- Views: 130
Straping a late period shield.
Straping a late period shield. Hello, I am nearly complete with my newest shield. It is 2 layers of bent plywood, canvas, aluminum edge reinforcement, nylon rope edging and leather stretched & riveted in place to hide the mundane (didn’t have any raw-hide when I started the project). The over...
- Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:18 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Sheet titanium?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 474
Ideally you want to look into water-jet cutting for titanium. The heat from the laser will cause hydrogen embrittlement (or was that nitrogen?) Anyway I've been instructed that the only time we hot cut titanium (laser, torch, edm etc)for the medical industry we machine away the outer .030" to .040" ...
- Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:33 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: using steel
- Replies: 12
- Views: 258
Kingston NY isn't far from Albany. Try looking up the company: Albany Steel. They sell (or used to sell) half sheets, drops and scratch&dent pieces for very reasonable prices. As you are looking for non-premium material the gages you want may not always be in stock. If you are building SCA grade arm...
